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They're probably also not playing the game to win for the videos. They're just maneuvering the game or actually setting it to the state they want it to be for them, since they're just promotional things.
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Third World Reggin posted:also really worried about the lack of combat since it looks like the majority of people sit back, do rituals, and forget about fighting until the actual ritual As for the CA people being a gazzilion turns into a campaign and it looking like they haven't achived much. Same thing: How the CA PR people play the game, will not necessarily represent how you'll play the game. I mean, here's a vampire counts playthrough where 122 turns in they only got three provinces.
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Sep 15, 2017 20:59
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Psycho Landlord posted:I'd be willing to bet that the ritual is something you actually have to make the effort to pursue as opposed to just owning a shitload of land, given it's status as an alternate win condition. Having it be a little less than half full at turn 75 may just be a result of player priorities. the ritual bar progression is a combination of completion of missions and owning certain provinces that just generate the required resources at a certain point you have the option to do the ritual where a few cities that you own are now defense targets
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Sep 15, 2017 21:06
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Third World Reggin posted:the ritual bar progression is a combination of completion of missions and owning certain provinces that just generate the required resources Sounds like a good motivation to paint the map and control far more land than they are in these videos.
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Sep 15, 2017 21:14
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Given that you can do stuff to impede enemy ritual progress, I imagine there's basically the option of playing a long game where you focus on stopping your opponents from progressing, compared to contesting the race offensively and ignoring the enemy's progress.
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Sep 15, 2017 22:05
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Third World Reggin posted:this might be true, except for the voice over said some what early I remember previews of game 1 showing almost the entire map scorched by Chaos, while on my first playthrough those guys died on the gates of Kislev, so that might be reasonably in tune to the game experience of people new to Total War, but veteran players will likely be more advanced in their campaign objectives.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:00
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Though tbh I do not understandbeing afraid that you won't be encouraged to go fight nerds outside of the ritual stuff. Like it's a single player campaign just go paint the map your color. I'm sure the AI will still be programmed to make a rush for whatever ritual point town that you own on a war dec.
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Sep 15, 2017 23:23
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Total Biscuit is streaming some Skaven gameplay this weekend if you hate yourself enough to tune in.
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Let's get this out here right now. I'm a 23 year old law graduate with an IQ of 155. My political beliefs are liberal and leftist, I listen to Metal and I enjoy violent movies, books and videogames, and I'm playing Total War: WARHAMMER 2 before you.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Total Biscuit is streaming some Skaven gameplay this weekend if you hate yourself enough to tune in. Why couldn't they let someone good stream it? Like milkandcookiestw guy (indie whatshisface) or Turin or something. You know, people who can actually do a cast really well, even on the fly.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:10
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They sent review keys to influencers and the media today. TB is just the one that announced a schefule. We'll probably see stuff from the other guys soon.
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Sep 16, 2017 02:15
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Also CA's twitch stream shows them scheduled to stream a different LL/Campaign every day starting Monday.
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Sep 16, 2017 03:28
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Their marketing push is going full-bore now, and I'm glad to see that it's arguably even more aggressive than the previous game's. That level of developer confidence in the game is a good thing.
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Sep 16, 2017 04:45
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I thought that Humble bundle was 13 hours not 13 days yay I can buy them when I get paidlp
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-09-15-thieves-snatch-van-full-of-total-war-warhammer-2-collectors-editions Which one of you was it
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ZearothK posted:Let's get this out here right now. I'm a 23 year old law graduate with an IQ of 155. My political beliefs are liberal and leftist, I listen to Metal and I enjoy violent movies, books and videogames, and I'm playing Total War: WARHAMMER 2 before you. is this a copypasta or are we in gbs suddenly
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pnutz posted:is this a copypasta or are we in gbs suddenly Both.
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pnutz posted:is this a copypasta or are we in gbs suddenly TotalBiscuit was a goon who was so annoying he got run out of GBS. Let that sink in.
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Sep 16, 2017 09:42
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I'll never understand the weird association between people who think they're smart and playing video games, but gently caress if TB is pretty emblematic of it. Sometimes he knows what he's doing in the games though, so his video will likely show off some aspects of the game. He did some alright videos of WH40k: Space Marine.
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jokes posted:I'll never understand the weird association between people who think they're smart and playing video games, but gently caress if TB is pretty emblematic of it. I can play strategy games and action games pretty drat well, even if I am sleep deprivated an sick to the point where my IQ should by all rights be considered to be in the sub 80's level. If I actually had one in the 150's and higher I'd probably do calculus for fun instead, which is something I can have fun with, but can also get frustrating in a way my poor dumb brain can't handle at times.
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Playing an Angrund campaign with SFO, GCCM, and Chaos Rising mods and it is quite challenging. Its turn 100 and I haven't gotten Karak 8 Peaks yet because Crooked Moon has been so hyperagressive I've had to murder like a million goblins at this point just to stay alive. Still it has been a lot of fun holding out from impossible odds over and over again.
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Panfilo posted:Playing an Angrund campaign with SFO, GCCM, and Chaos Rising mods and it is quite challenging. Its turn 100 and I haven't gotten Karak 8 Peaks yet because Crooked Moon has been so hyperagressive I've had to murder like a million goblins at this point just to stay alive. Still it has been a lot of fun holding out from impossible odds over and over again. GCCM and SFO run together now?? Launching game at work to just to investigate
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:GCCM and SFO run together now?? Yeah, GCCM is just the custom maps. Works fine with SFO for me. Some are pretty interesting. Karak Izor, for example, is this big symmetrical fortress split by a wide canal in the center (a few bridges connect here and there). They somehow built these MASSIVE cannon towers that shoot like 8 cannonballs in a salvo which shoot at enemies that manage to breach the outer walls. There are areas for you to put troops on inner walls to shoot at attackers that penetrated your initial defenses, 4 courtyards the attackers need to occupy, and plenty of nice choke points the defender can make a last stand in. The only problem is that like GCCM's Nuln map, it really seems designed for massive battles where you have a full garrison, full army garrisoned inside as well, and are fending off 2+ enemy stacks. Often you barely have enough dudes to cover the outer walls much less spare anyone to hang back to catch enemies trying to sneak past. Still, the nice advantage of maps like this is that even if they bashed open walls previously (from heroes or previous sieges) you're not entirely boned since you can hang back and try to hold out inside the city.
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Vlex posted:TotalBiscuit was a goon who was so annoying he got run out of GBS. Let that sink in. sorry, I'd forgotten that was part of the famous tb copypasta.  I still regret not posting his election night rant to the trump won thread
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the gccm maps are not universally well balanced but they make the game so much loving better. The map variety makes fighting in middenland feel way different to fighting in Kislev.
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toasterwarrior posted:Grimgor is a massive rear end in a top hat who will inevitably wage war on everything outside of the Badlands, so IMO you might as well get an alliance with him since you're already friendly. That'll also give you line of sight on where Grimgor is. Thanks for the advice, I alpha-struck Grim's core settlements then had a bunch of good scraps against like 9 stacks after all his armies started Waaghing. Absurdly buffed Savage Orc Big Uns > your precious black orcs ya git. After beating him into confederated submission I had the pleasant surprise of realizing he'd already wiped Dwarfs from the face of the Old World, so that's nice. Fuligin fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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Gay Horney posted:the gccm maps are not universally well balanced but they make the game so much loving better. The map variety makes fighting in middenland feel way different to fighting in Kislev. Agreed. Some of the unwalled settlement maps are nicer than just fighting out in the open- on the defense you are often given low impossible walls you can arc projectiles over and clog up 2 or 3 choke points. On the offense you can bait the AI into charging through one narrow passage and devastate them with Artillery and blast weapons/spells.
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So small confirmed change to Lord Spellcasters in game 2: 1. Lords max out spells with two points instead of 3, eg first point gives spell, overcast, and reduced cooldown, second point for cost reduction, vs Hero Spellcasters learning spells more slowly. Spells with no overcast can be maxed out with one point. 2. Lord Casters start with two spells unlocked instead of one. Skrolk starts with Pestilent Breath and Imbue Poison for example. Don't think the changes apply to hybrid melee/caster Lords, but not sure yet.
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Cost reduction / decreased cooldown are such obvious and good ideas for lord casters
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madmac posted:So small confirmed change to Lord Spellcasters in game 2: I am glad they are taking hints from mods
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Also, watching the TB stream for a bit... Skrolk seems really strong. He's decent in melee, his basic breath spell actually does quite respectable damage, likely because of damage spells being buffed generally. He's got 50% upkeep reduction of pestilens units and starts with Plague Monks x3, Censer Bearers, and one Catapult. Starting position seems easy but slow, you start with one minor lizardmen faction to stomp on and are surrounded by ruins otherwise. You do start fairly close to the Dwarves though. OTOH he does inherently spread corruption which isn't actually too helpful for Skaven. Also food is a bit more of a concern then I would have guessed, it depletes pretty quickly and you can only produce it from special building sites or from combat and the penalties for running out are massive. Minor tidbit, Warpstone Tokens is a Skaven passive skill that gives +13 winds but increases miscast chance by 5%. Skrolk also gets a unique skill that gives him terror, another one that's a -MA aura, one that gives more Plague Priests/Plague units buffs and a bunch of other skills. Also Red tree seems consistent with most of the other one ones I've seen in Game 2, the first tier gives you a bunch of 3 point skills to dump points into, second tier is all one point skills. madmac fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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One neat thing you can do with food is to immediately upgrade a settlement to tier 2 or 3 which could be really useful in contested areas and allow Skaven to expand very rapidly. I could also see this bring particularly nasty with the AI, getting economic bonuses that will likely translate to more passive food generation so every settlement you encounter will be tier 3+ and every enemy Skaven army will bring hordes of summons.
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How do you gobbo? Doing the Skarsnic or whatev campaign I can't kill the dwarves I start at war with because they vomit out a 20 stack of mostly dwarf warriors which, well, are dwarf warriors versus goblins and company.
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Gamerofthegame posted:How do you gobbo? Doing the Skarsnic or whatev campaign I can't kill the dwarves I start at war with because they vomit out a 20 stack of mostly dwarf warriors which, well, are dwarf warriors versus goblins and company. Skarsnic's red line + nasty skulkers murder dwarfs. Add catapults to taste. Gobbos have an easier time with dwarfs early game than orcs. edit: TotalBiscuit is painfully bad at this game. He needs to watch Party Elite's introductory videos. KPC_Mammon fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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TotalBiscuit is somehow actually worse than me, which is saying a lot. Ctrl+A and right-click! 
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How do you run a campaign as norsca without crossing your fingers and hoping the various beastmen faction sack & raze kislev, ostermark, nordland, middenland...etc Your provinces are nearly useless, yet essential for their $300-per-province economic building. Your territory is huge (once confederated) but you can't afford armies to defend it. Harder difficulties penalize your public order enough that you'll probably have multiple rebellions by turn 20. Everyone declares war on you by turn 10. A raiding army doesn't pay for itself. The units you can afford aren't very good (particularly at difficulties above Hard). You can't simply sack provinces for their gold. The anti-Chaos reward is essential but good luck beating a six stack Chosen doom army with your one, maybe two stacks. It's a tremendously fun and challenging faction but sometimes I'm left scratching my head at how it's constructed and how you're supposed to proceed. It seems like they need a bonus to raiding income skill/multiplier. The monster-hunt and quest battles are a ton of fun, love the multiple waves feature.
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I can't watch the TB stream, he is too awful at this game. Two battles in a row he uses move commands to move his infantry up in a line and then wonders aloud why they haven't engaged the nearby enemy. Its terrible.
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All that you need to know about TB is that he got banned from SA because he refused to stop signing his posts. No other reason, just refused to omit "-TB" at the end of his loving posts.
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