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AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175152995?t=14m50s

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Golli
Jan 5, 2013




"I'm not a racist, but..."

Never seen that convince anyone.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

skaboomizzy posted:

Too Many Cooks, except it's Too Many Parps

I read that as too many cocks

Now I don't know what to believe any more

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175167405?t=18m57s

notoriousman
Nov 18, 2007

I'M AWARE I'M
AN IDIOT
I'm the multiple moderators needed for a channel with single-digit viewers.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I know we've overdone it a bit but it is so childish and funny



As I closed the window he was still going on about how little he's bothered :laugh:

Mne nravitsya
Jul 14, 2017

his nibs posted:

I read that as too many cocks

Now I don't know what to believe any more

Does Star Citizen suffer from too many cocks in the cuntiflas?

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


Wow, no more sympathy for this guy. gently caress Twerk.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Tokamak posted:

Wow, no more sympathy for this guy. gently caress Twerk.

Yeah that was pretty telling, in my experience if someone is willing to tentatively say out loud stuff like that it's the tip of a very lovely iceberg

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

XK posted:

I think Family Matters would be a better fit.

How about this theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BuSUH4vt_I

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer


lol

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

peter gabriel posted:

Yeah that was pretty telling, in my experience if someone is willing to tentatively say out loud stuff like that it's the tip of a very lovely iceberg

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175152995?t=20m28s

:gary:

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Mne nravitsya posted:

Does Star Citizen suffer from too many cocks in the cuntiflas?

Knocked up if true

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube


I used to watch that show, and the show that followed it, "They Came from Outer Space".

Such incredibly stupid shows.

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug
How about this? Needs space video though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jhb5NnADM

Get ewe2 in on it too.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175152995?t=40m03s

:lesnick:

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer
Twat17 more like

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Sappo569 posted:

I was only following orders !

HANGED

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

In the background Batgirl talking about Big Bennies and that fuckin lamp :negative:
This is some Twilight Zone poo poo these days, all the streamers still in Port Ollisarse, Big Bennie still the hot new meme. loving hell, get a refund!!!

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
HEY GUYS HAVE YOU SEEN THIS LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3rqgoYxh0o

Wuxi
Apr 3, 2012

BeigeJacket posted:

So Erin 'The competent one of the Brothers' Roberts hot take on bug-fixing and dev is 'Why don't we try fixing things one at a time?'

Heady stuff.

Well, compared to his brother, whos hot take on bug-fixing would be something like sniffing some coke and screaming at the developers about his jacket vision, that is sure competent

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




peter gabriel posted:

I know we've overdone it a bit but it is so childish and funny



As I closed the window he was still going on about how little he's bothered :laugh:
i saw that live as i was planning to drop my follow in
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175167405?t=51m36s

its just so much fun

this guy crashes his ship due to follow
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175162043?t=01h45m11s

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Wuxi posted:

Well, compared to his brother, whos hot take on bug-fixing would be something like sniffing some coke and screaming at the developers about his jacket vision, that is sure competent

Chris's take on bug fixing is to just wave your hands and admit defeat

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

Colostomy Bag posted:

Instead of some boring flat screen I'd figure they have Minority Report type poo poo going on.

They had one of those way back, but when Crobbler walked in coked out of his mind and started handwaving his dreams the thing exploded and the building burned down. This was the real reason for the move to a new studio in LA.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer
Berk17

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Combat 17

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Mne nravitsya posted:

I would argue that TonyZ is also equally at fault, but doesn't get as much attention, because Roberts prefers to hog the limelight

One thing I never understood was CIG's big move to poach all the senior Crytek guys. Why would you do this? I mean... they made CryEngine.

Toops fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Sep 16, 2017

Nanako the Narc
Sep 6, 2011


Wow, I thought Twerk would be smart enough to follow up "I'm not racist but..." with something that would perhaps be in the gray area between racist and not racist but nope, he went straight into "gently caress THEM IMMIGRANTS" mode.

Just the kind of high-class content creators I would expect from this project.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
https://twitter.com/commando_tom/status/909047891725037569

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
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:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

:trumppop:

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Who needs a plan when you have

Nanako the Narc
Sep 6, 2011

Twerk is streaming right now, by the way, anyone feel like following him with the name "I'm_not_racist_but"? I'd do it myself but I'm on my tablet and it's fiddly.

E: Racist tax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vldmW4CMhU0

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175152995?t=01h10m18s

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

AP posted:



October 2014, Cloud Imperium Games sells concept art of a spaceship for $600.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nge5F6UJDuw&t=260s

September 2017, Cloud Imperium Games gives a status update on the $600 spaceship, they haven't starting building it yet.

At least those know what the thing look like. Think of all those poor Banu Merchantman backers.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

his nibs posted:

Twat17 more like

drat legal immegrants drat ignrants dey are.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

Latin Pheonix posted:

Twerk is streaming right now, by the way, anyone feel like following him with the name "I'm_not_racist_but"? I'd do it myself but I'm on my tablet and it's fiddly.

E: Racist tax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vldmW4CMhU0

I have a black cat - poor guy was abused before I got him.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.


gently caress. You beat me to that one, Feline of ill temper.

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

Latin Pheonix posted:

Wow, I thought Twerk would be smart enough to follow up "I'm not racist but..." with something that would perhaps be in the gray area between racist and not racist but nope, he went straight into "gently caress THEM IMMIGRANTS" mode.

Just the kind of high-class content creators I would expect from this project.

What a massive loving douche. Cognitive bias is a sure sign that a person is a loving idiot, but on the other hand he's streaming Star Citizen unironically so I guess looking for other signs is a bit redundant.

I like how he's calling out people at his workplace too, on a public stream. I wonder what he does for a living. Probably mopping, because he doesn't seem very attached to his job.

PS: Nothing wrong with mopping for a living, I'm just saying... look, I'm not a moppist, but... there's a reason people are trying to play Star Citizen for a living, ok?

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

I'm not a racist, but... Ben fat.

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Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

G0RF posted:




The world's most ambitious game is in the hands of a guy who hasn't made a game since the early 2000s and a guy who reskinned Lego games for the last decade. I see no reason for concern...

/S

Isn't it interesting to listen to Erin in that Burndown, though. The ad hoc panic-scramble that has typified their Game Dev process for years is manifestly obvious from [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhywXu8vsuM&t=8m24s]his bizarre pep talk
with the befuddled LA Devs.

If I'm understanding him right, it sounds like he's right there admitting the priority of future 3.x features aren't even nailed down and will be decided in consultation with Todd (Papy?) after they bugsmash and crap out 3.0. And yet again it conjures up the ATV from January of 2016, which saw the Austin team admitting they didn't yet have a PU feature roadmap for the year because the brain trust hadn't met and decided their next priorities.

Over 5 years in and there's still no true Master Plan. They're constantly improvising priorities in the moment, with no real roadmap. Even the prioritization of PG planets you could land on was a rash impulse and deviation from plan. Brian Chambers described how one of his devs had some experience with it, and really wanted to work on it and not tell Chris and Chambers and the Frankfurt team effectively shielded him from close management scrutiny while he worked on it in private. Then apparently it was shown to leadership, they spazzed out and made it a top priority, then we got the "from Pupil to Planet" trailer, Squadron had to get redefined to include full scale planetary landings, and for nearly two years, CIG has been trying to make it work in the game.

What should be a long marathon to an agreed upon destination hitting known milestones along a fixed route is instead a constant series of panicked sprints to the next short term target. Upon arrival, after the winded puking, eyes scramble across yon horizon for the next target to set. Even if it means running over old ground, even if it means going backwards half the time.

At this point they might as well just make Star Citizen a big rear end Lego game. THAT they might be able to deliver and it might run the risk of being mildly fun, too.

Pretty much this exactly..

One thing that people don't seem to understand, and CIG is writing a masters thesis on, is that changing priorities is inherently bad for a software project. The fact that it's unavoidable doesn't mean it should become the condition and not the exception. It forces entire teams/organizations to context-switch. There has been a lot of research done about this topic, and the jury is in: Context switching makes you work slower, destabilizes the product, and lowers morale.

Agile evolved primarily as a better way to minimize the damage done when things change, as they inevitably do. It's better to respond to change than simply stick to a plan that's no longer relevant. But one of the first things I learned about agile was the importance of a prioritized backlog of work that remains as stable as possible. Sure, you can add stuff, move stuff around, but it takes a lot of hard work, communication, collaboration, and actual vision (not to be confused with vision(tm) the marketing buzzword), to build and maintain an effective backlog. Priorities at CIG are changing because they never did this, which is roundly unacceptable.

The reason CIG's priorities change constantly is not because the market conditions are evolving, or external changes beyond their control have invalidated well-reasoned assumptions in the project plan. No. Priorities change almost daily for one reason only, and that is because Chris Roberts is so impulsive and ignorant that he's border-line psychotic.

Watching CIG thrash like a rabid wolverine in a McDonalds ball pit gives me sympathy whiplash.

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