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i don't think it would even end up like that. didn't ms have an x86 to arm emulator or something back on the original surface rt that was used basically for office and nothing else? i figure it wouldn't be too hard to get some sort of windows running and some x64 compatibility layer or emulator running, but it seems like a whole lot of effort for trivial if any gain.
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Mr. Nice! posted:i don't think it would even end up like that. didn't ms have an x86 to arm emulator or something back on the original surface rt that was used basically for office and nothing else? i figure it wouldn't be too hard to get some sort of windows running and some x64 compatibility layer or emulator running, but it seems like a whole lot of effort for trivial if any gain. no, surface rt was win32 native on arm. some xda guys made a x86->arm wine wrapper that basically worked (if you bypassed the code signing policy), but you wouldn't be running photoshop or anything on it.
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infernal machines posted:no, surface rt was win32 native on arm. some xda guys made a x86->arm wine wrapper that basically worked (if you bypassed the code signing policy), but you wouldn't be running photoshop or anything on it. to add to this my understanding is that intel has made noises that the the first major company stupid enough to try and implement an x86-64 to ARM emulator had better be ready to take the entire intel global patent portfolio up the rear end.
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Shifty Pony posted:to add to this my understanding is that intel has made noises that the the first major company stupid enough to try and implement an x86-64 to ARM emulator had better be ready to take the entire intel global patent portfolio up the rear end. apple has enough cash to buy intel and that would be hilarious
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zen death robot posted:that sort of thing has to go through regulations approval you know lol
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like seriously the federal government could stop apple from buying intel if they wanted but loving  at that happening in trump's america
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apple's interest in x64 stuff won't be for windows, though, so no one will really care. instead it'll be for transitioning to the a15 or whatever iteration it's on at that point laptop ala rosetta stone from ppc to x86.
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Mr. Nice! posted:apple's interest in x64 stuff won't be for windows, though, so no one will really care. instead it'll be for transitioning to the a15 or whatever iteration it's on at that point laptop ala rosetta stone from ppc to x86. rosetta was licensed software. that poo poo is hard to get right. unfortunately for apple and other punters, ibm bought the vendor who sold it, and it is now exclusive to ibm platforms. additionally, x86 was literally 4x as fast as ppc when they bit the bullet. that's not gonna be true for arm vs x86
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Mr. Nice! posted:they'd probably run software that's designed for the architecture at an amazing speed. the problem is, outside of apple oses and more specifically ios, nothing is designed to run on them. arm compilers aren't loving magic there is an officially supported rhel for arm64, including a real, non-poo poo port of openjdk (i.e. not zero/shark) the reason you never hear about this poo poo is that nobody actually uses it. the arm chips that you can actually buy off the shelf are horrendously slow both per $ and per watt edit: maybe a10/a11 are a giant leap forward but i kinda doubt it Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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of course there's going to be something that can run on it, but like you pointed out no one uses it because there's no practical use.
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maybe they will put both in there 
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Shifty Pony posted:to add to this my understanding is that intel has made noises that the the first major company stupid enough to try and implement an x86-64 to ARM emulator had better be ready to take the entire intel global patent portfolio up the rear end. the solution is to slowly turn ios into a desktop os by adding a docking mode to ipads and iphones
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Mr. Nice! posted:of course there's going to be something that can run on it, but like you pointed out no one uses it because there's no practical use. there is no use because arm is slow and expensive compared to x86 the software platforms are high quality, the chips are not
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Doc Block posted:so, basically, if your app is using the correct UI positioning stuff already (Autolayout, anchoring constraints to the system-provided edge insets, using the built-in navbar & toolbar elements, etc) then your app will Just Work. times well with the removal of 32bit only apps because those are hacky garbage that has somehow survived for years on the app store. even so ill miss my old lovely but mostly functional one task apps
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:there is no use because arm is slow and expensive compared to x86 lol no
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the reason you never hear about this poo poo is that nobody actually uses it. the arm chips that you can actually buy off the shelf are horrendously slow both per $ and per watt yeah, i remember some benchmark from maybe 5 years ago that compared arm and intel servers. if you have small loads then arm is better because then it uses less (electrical) power. but intel processors beat arm ones both in terms of speed and in power-per-watt when running under heavy load.
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I need Intel because I take lycopene, zinc, l-arginine, lecithin etc daily.
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emoji posted:I need Intel because I take lycopene, zinc, l-arginine, lecithin etc daily. we get it, you vape
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cinci zoo sniper posted:we get it, you vape what kind of stack are you rolling writh
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ARM = rear end Ramming Machine but it's up to you to interpret whose rear end is getting rammed funeral home DJ fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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Crime on a Dime posted:what kind of stack are you rolling writh eleaf aster with cubis pro, running double menthol @ 12 mg on lvc claptons
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cinci zoo sniper posted:eleaf aster with cubis pro, running double menthol @ 12 mg on lvc claptons gross menthol, are you black or just really old?
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Hugh G. Rectum posted:gross menthol, are you black or just really old? 24, could be whiter only after a bleach bath. not sure how i ended up smoking menthol cigs in sweden, but menthol vape has always been my preference since all the pissbaby sugarcane flavours popular with majority have absolutely 0 throat hit
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any info on Reachability on iPhone X? I double tap my home button all the time. it might be a deal breaker for me if it doesn't have it, one handed use is essential
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lol vaping mmj vaping is alright because it's less conspicuous, but at sucking on robot dicks for fun or nicotine.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:any info on Reachability on iPhone X? I double tap my home button all the time. im curious myself so im in a chat with apple right now. the default chat person has no idea so she's talking with a supervisor. edit: it took a while for them to find out the answer, but it appears that it will be a swiping gesture of some sort. quote:Thank you for patiently waiting. Yes, there will be a gesture that you can do in order for that to happen and you can check it on the accessibility options on the Settings Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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well ok Apple, you win... THIS time
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the rep then went on to try to convince me to upgrade from my 6s+ but at that this thing is still super fast, is in flawless condition, and works beautifully all while still having a headphone jack for when i have to swipe a credit card that doesn't have a chip in it.
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Mr. Nice! posted:the rep then went on to try to convince me to upgrade from my 6s+ but
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6s is a great loving phone and people gonna use it for a while i think. outside of breaking my 6s+ i have no reason whatsoever to upgrade.
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Mr. Nice! posted:6s is a great loving phone and people gonna use it for a while i think. outside of breaking my 6s+ i have no reason whatsoever to upgrade. I have a 7 and I like it more, the snappiness is real good and very noticeable can't wait to have an 8 or an X honestly
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I have a 7 and I like it more, the snappiness is real good and very noticeable same but i just dont see the need yet, maybe a no notch x1 or 9 or some future model but the 7 is fine for my use. heck the 6 was too but i liked the better camera and my old phones are basically upgrades for family members every 2 years though that display color adjustment is so oddly visual nerd appealing
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phone nazi: no phones for u!!!
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one upshot of having no fewer than five different phone models available at any one time is at least one of them, possibly two, are revised versions of hardware so you don't have to buy the first iteration of an apple product (which is a very dumb and bad idea) the problem is apple's new strategy is to roll out new hardware every year from now on so eventually you will always have to buy first-run products
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what type of phosphor did old monochrome Apple monitors (e.g. the Apple Monitor II) use? was it P1 or P24 or something else?
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Mr. Nice! posted:lol vaping i'm not so much into it but it is a million times better than actual smoking so if someone is gaping rather than smoking it's all good nice typo too. left it for sexual effect
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echinopsis posted:i'm not so much into it but it is a million times better than actual smoking so if someone is gaping rather than smoking it's all good for me its cheaper, i dont stink, and i can do it at home in lovely weather (and the home wont stink either)
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echinopsis posted:i'm not so much into it but it is a million times better than actual smoking so if someone is gaping rather than smoking it's all good no typo i deliberately typed robot dicks because that's what vapes are.
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the only way you could think that vaping doesn't stink is if your sense of smell has been previously eradicated by actual smoking
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cinci zoo sniper posted:for me its cheaper, i dont stink, and i can do it at home in lovely weather (and the home wont stink either) have you considered not being addicted to nicotine?
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