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Black-ish owns and you just happened to catch a really bad episode.
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The bit with Kimmel and Colbert was spot-on. Why is a show that does 30 episodes a year competing with one that does 200? There's way more TV than there was even 5 years ago. Add some more categories so more shows get recognized. Make the show fun. And don't spend half the night on the Limited Series categories which are almost always weak.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:12
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zoux posted:Black-ish owns and you just happened to catch a really bad episode. Black-ish does, in fact, own. I don't remember the episode in question but it sounds like one of the "Dre gets up his own rear end" episodes.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:16
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Niwrad posted:My problem with some of the awards is shows that have 20 episodes are competing with shows that have 8. Veep is nice and all but if they had to put out as many episodes as Blackish, would it still be good? Maybe the category should be split into short and long season. What's the last major "prestige"(-ish) drama that even had 22 episode seasons? Good Wife?
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Sep 18, 2017 19:16
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zoux posted:Black-ish owns and you just happened to catch a really bad episode. I saw a bunch of episodes from the first season too when it started, and it didn't do much to convince me it was worth keeping up with. IRQ posted:Black-ish does, in fact, own. I don't remember the episode in question but it sounds like one of the "Dre gets up his own rear end" episodes. It was either the season premiere for last year or the year before, I can't remember which. Last year I think. I decided to give it another shot and boy was that a poor decision on my behalf. e: Yeah, last year. 3x01 quote:Dre takes the family to Walt Disney World and wants the kids to have the experience he never had, so he gets them a VIP tour. The kids get spoiled from bypassing lines all day and, when their VIP time is up, they get bratty when they now have to wait like everyone else. After calling them out on their ungrateful attitudes, Dre has an outburst and leaves them. Meanwhile, Bow ends up spending the day with Dre's parents since she can't ride most of the attractions due to her pregnancy.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:19
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Do you dislike Fresh Off the Boat too?
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Sep 18, 2017 19:25
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Get this, I like Orville. Also, Black-ish is good but god drat it I'm still pissed The Carmichael show is dead. It blew Black-ish away and it was a multi-camera sitcom why in the gently caress.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:29
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IRQ posted:Black-ish does, in fact, own. I don't remember the episode in question but it sounds like one of the "Dre gets up his own rear end" episodes. It's the season 3 premiere, I also didn't watch it because it was an ad for Disneyworld. But if you wanna know why Anthony Anderson got nominated for an Emmy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvykfyGTnbQ But also it's really funny!
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Sep 18, 2017 19:32
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Timby posted:After Hulu cleaning up at the Emmys the way it did last night, I imagine there were some chairs being thrown at Netflix's offices this morning. I'm disappointed that Amazon, which is taking way more chances than either Netflix or Hulu, is getting little to no attention from anyone (well, other than here).
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Sep 18, 2017 19:42
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it's extra sad, because Amazon is going to stop taking chances and try for more mainstream appeal, which is super lame. It has had some really great stuff in the last few years.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:43
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Snak posted:it's extra sad, because Amazon is going to stop taking chances and try for more mainstream appeal, which is super lame. The Tick, Patriot, and Sneaky Pete are three of my five favorite shows of the last year. Amazon's stuff is fantastic.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:47
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Ugly In The Morning posted:The Tick, Patriot, and Sneaky Pete are three of my five favorite shows of the last year. Amazon's stuff is fantastic. Throw in Fleabag in there too. Again, I was really wowed by it, and it came out of nowhere for me.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:48
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Ugly In The Morning posted:The Tick, Patriot, and Sneaky Pete are three of my five favorite shows of the last year. Amazon's stuff is fantastic. Also Jean Claude Van Johnson is supposed to be coming too. 15 seconds in ep2 of the Orville and I'm sold. I hope this thing runs for 7 seasons. edit: oh my god the intro. Also I'm pretty sure they just put all star trek music in a blender to make the music for this show, so that it's both plagiarizing every theme at once, and not quite any of them. Snak fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Sep 18, 2017 19:49
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Snak posted:Also Jean Claude Van Johnson The pilot for that won me over in the first few minutes with the coconut water thing.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:51
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IRQ posted:Do you dislike Fresh Off the Boat too? Nope, that show is far better. Constance Wu is amazing. And yes, Carmichael Show was great and always overlooked.
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Sep 18, 2017 19:57
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Amazon isn't necessarily focussing on mainstream appeal, they are focusing on international appeal to grow Prime outside the US. They specifically mentioned that stuff like "The Tick" is what they are shooting for. They cancelled two expensive Fitzgerald period pieces that had little appeal outside of the US.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:00
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Is Comrade Detective coming back for a season 2? I sure hope so.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:01
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bull3964 posted:Amazon isn't necessarily focussing on mainstream appeal, they are focusing on international appeal to grow Prime outside the US. Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:04
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Snak posted:Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day. I saw that in a few articles as well. Waiting to hear which book series they buy the rights to.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:07
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Snak posted:Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day. Variety posted:And he doesn’t mince words about his interest in finding a show that packs the wallop of HBO’s “Game of Thrones.”
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Sep 18, 2017 20:08
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GreenNight posted:I saw that in a few articles as well. Waiting to hear which book series they buy the rights to. I could go for a First Law Trilogy series. It's way better than A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones, in my opinion. I burned out on ASoIaF after the third book/endless wait for the fourth.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:11
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GreenNight posted:I saw that in a few articles as well. Waiting to hear which book series they buy the rights to. I'm not gonna lie, Wheel of Time with a GoT level budget would be pretty great. Especially if keep it as sleezy as the source material and try to outdo GoT/Rome. Also I love The Orville. I love that I've seen this plot in like at least 2 actual trek shows. Both the A and the B plot.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:12
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Snak posted:Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day. I'm surprised we haven't seen more networks try it. Didn't Robert Jordan's estate have the rights to wheel of time revert to them not too long ago?
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Sep 18, 2017 20:12
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Wheel of Time wouldn't be bad if they cut down all the bullshit. The books have way way way too much needless garbage in them. I'd like to see them take a stab at Dresdin Files. Scifi botched that one.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:15
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I've watched half of Deadwood (literally half, farthest I ever got has been 1/2 of season 2, twice). Thinking it's time to do the whole drat thing finally
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Sep 18, 2017 20:15
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GreenNight posted:Is Comrade Detective coming back for a season 2? I sure hope so. IDK I feel like they were running the joke into the ground by the end of the first season.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:17
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GreenNight posted:Wheel of Time wouldn't be bad if they cut down all the bullshit. The books have way way way too much needless garbage in them. I quit reading after like book 8, and I feel like you could get a solid 4 seasons out of those 8 books. 5 if they make the characters actually interesting, 4 if they go purely plot driven.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:17
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I'm honestly surprised that no one has taken a run at Kolchak since the X-Files.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:18
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Snak posted:Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day. GreenNight posted:I saw that in a few articles as well. Waiting to hear which book series they buy the rights to. Amazon (along with Apple) is apparently pitching hard to get the rights to James Bond.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:21
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Snak posted:I quit reading after like book 8, and I feel like you could get a solid 4 seasons out of those 8 books. 5 if they make the characters actually interesting, 4 if they go purely plot driven. There's a few books in the middle there that just DRAG, but if you power through it gets good again. The end was pretty good too.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:21
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IRQ posted:There's a few books in the middle there that just DRAG, but if you power through it gets good again. The end was pretty good too. Yeah, but character developement ideas from them could easily be condensed into the major plot lines. Bonus points is that you'd have an entire season that is just the plot of Dune.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:25
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The problem with wanting the next GoT is that a studio asking for the 'next' anything has never worked.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:29
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Snak posted:Someone said in this thread that their new corporate mandate was "make game of thrones". I don't have a source, so maybe that's wrong. I just read that here the other day. They'll never do it in the binge streaming format. Half the fun of GoT is everyone watching on Sunday night and talking about the episode the next day (or the same night online). I love binge watching but I think there is a ceiling as to how big a show can get in that format. GoT is a TV event moreso than a show at this point.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:32
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DrVenkman posted:The problem with wanting the next GoT is that a studio asking for the 'next' anything has never worked. Of course not. Because they want a surface level copy and aren't willing to budget the time and money to make a quality product. I remember all the "next Lost" shows.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:32
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Niwrad posted:Netflix has a lot of good shows, it just doesn't really have great shows. Maybe The Crown fits in that mold but their next biggest prestige drama is House of Cards which is complete garbage now. They still won a bunch of awards and were nominated for a bunch more. Netflix has plenty of great shows, they're just not the ones on the Emmy Awards' radar, except for Master of None. Lady Dynamite is AMAZING. Dear White People and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt are stellar, in my opinion. They've struggled to produce an actually great dramatic show, though. Stranger Things is better than the prestige poo poo they put out, but it has its own issues. and then BoJack Horseman is a stone-dead TV classic in the making.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:40
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DrVenkman posted:Nah, it's like your batsignal. I call it the prestige show binge problem. Each episode still needs to be its own thing. If an episode doesn't even have a drat theme it's a structure problem. It's one of the reasons Stranger Things stands out, because it does not have this problem.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:43
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Spatula City posted:Netflix has plenty of great shows, they're just not the ones on the Emmy Awards' radar, except for Master of None. The Crown got 13 nominations.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:43
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Wheat Loaf posted:Amazon (along with Apple) is apparently pitching hard to get the rights to James Bond. Whoever buys Bonds rights is an idiot if they don't do an expanded universe. Hear me out. The movies are just the movies. But make a limited series (8 or 10) episode series that's about 003 or 009 and have it be a female agent. Each season could focus on a single long arc while also doing episode of the week. It's 24 meets meets The Americans meets Bond.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:49
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LionArcher posted:I call it the prestige show binge problem. Each episode still needs to be its own thing. If an episode doesn't even have a drat theme it's a structure problem. It's one of the reasons Stranger Things stands out, because it does not have this problem. Sepinwall has written a few times about the joys of standalone episodes and I think it's something that is being phased out completely now everyone wants to do the dreaded 13 hour movie.
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I'm glad they are spreading around the streaming company Emmys, the more platforms striving to make award winning TV series the better.
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