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Donkwich posted:im glad there are subtitles so i can sing along with this bile in my VETERAN t shirt the only people allowed to wear a veteran shirt are retired us postal workers
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Obama was the greatest president of the last quarter century. that's loving awful
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zegermans posted:Obama was the greatest president of the last quarter century. i mean i guess that depends on what you mean by "greatest" because W was a lot more effective as a president in terms of accomplishing his goals than Obama was
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Al! posted:i mean i guess that depends on what you mean by "greatest" because W was a lot more effective as a president in terms of accomplishing his goals than Obama was was he though? His tax cuts expired and immigration reform/SS privatization failed. All he got done was medicare part D I guess his whole day 1 "lets get saddam" thing went off pretty good though
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Every one of those accounts either lives in DC Metro area or are small business owners.
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zegermans posted:was he though? His tax cuts expired and immigration reform/SS privatization failed. All he got done was medicare part D started two wars and crippled the federal government probably forever
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Al! posted:started two wars and crippled the federal government probably forever tbh I think the racist backlash against Obama did more to cripple governance with the rise of the tea party/suicide caucus, but I didn't pay attention to day to day politics under Bush, either.
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Donkwich posted:9/11 was hella successful
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zegermans posted:was he though? His tax cuts expired and immigration reform/SS privatization failed. All he got done was medicare part D it took a lot of planning to take out 3 and a quarter buildings and blame it on foreign foes so yeah he was quite effective obama didn't actually have any goals though so it's more of a divide by zero in comparison
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As far as cost/benefit 9/11 might arguably be the most effective military operation in human history.
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Al! posted:started two wars and crippled the federal government probably forever Even with the most generous read of his Presidency just responding to external events rather than doing poo poo he'd planned to do from the start, you absolutely have to put Iraq on the list of goals he achieved, because he was fantasizing about invading Iraq like 5 minutes after Desert Storm ended.
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its almost like they want to be treated like people instead of means-tested for residency visas
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maybe they're mad about arbitrary lines in the sand separating "good well meaning american" from "subhuman foreigner who needs banishment"
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what they need is means tested tax credits for businesses that consolidate federal data centers
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its almost like they want to be treated like people instead of means-tested for residency visas look she's trying her best for the tax credits give her a break!!!
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The Bush Administration still gives me chills. A bunch of rich religious fanatics, with a black and white view of the world, manipulating the public with patriotism and "heart". Half competent smooth talkers backed up by corporate media. In contrast, the Trump Administration feels like a bunch of neo-nazi highschool dropouts trying to run things. They may have more sinister intensions, but they are too incompetent to pass anything. How the gently caress do you own every branch of government and can't repeal or even alter Obamacare?
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The people who are effected by DACA gave all their information to the government willingly, and now it betrayed them. If you expect anything but righteous hatred from them, you're insane.
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it is me https://twitter.com/hamitron/status/909831236880801795
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tax credits are people too, and they deserve a vote
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Grondoth posted:The people who are effected by DACA gave all their information to the government willingly, and now it betrayed them. If you expect anything but righteous hatred from them, you're insane. and here's what the architect of this program that betrayed them has to say: https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/909871642423197696
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Not saying this is going to happen, but if any president could do a full amnesty it would be Trump. All you need is enough people in the White House to convince him that it's what Reagan would have done, and it will MAGA.
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Karl Barks posted:coding's not that fun tbh be a desk jockey for a faceless grey corp with random incoherent data that seemingly makes no sense, but is actually part of a government subsidy for a drone program, its how you'll earn a living - Obama
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there are some real smoothbrain comments in that one "why are the DACA kids protesting nancy, don't they realize she is trying to help them??" "well the dem leadership just struck a deal with trump for a clean debt ceiling hike that included nothing about protecting DACA kids and the six-month timetable still exists for them" *screws face up, trying to mash square fact into round peg brainhole* "but....DACA is good...Dems....also....good....but....Dems....bad???"
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Karl Barks posted:coding's not that fun tbh telling coders what to do is where it's at 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Not saying this is going to happen, but if any president could do a full amnesty it would be Trump. All you need is enough people in the White House to convince him that it's what Reagan
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zegermans posted:consolidate federal data centers is quite possibly the worst platform in history actually, you'll find that belonged to one Hillary Rodham Clinton, who went on to lose to Donald John Trump
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um excuse me if you checked hillary clinton dot com you would have found the most progressive platform of any candidate
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ex post facho posted:actually, you'll find that belonged to one Hillary Rodham Clinton, who went on to lose to Donald John Trump but bernie wrote her platform and after which the goalposts moved to "they don't really mean it tho"
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zegermans posted:but bernie wrote her platform and after which the goalposts moved to "they don't really mean it tho" That was just the goalposts public position
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zegermans posted:but bernie wrote her platform and after which the goalposts moved to "they don't really mean it tho" Hillary's book p much shows that you would be stupid to have believed she'd carry it out
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zegermans posted:but bernie wrote her platform and after which the goalposts moved to "they don't really mean it tho" do u think they mean it
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punk rebel ecks posted:In contrast, the Trump Administration feels like a bunch of neo-nazi highschool dropouts trying to run things. They may have more sinister intensions, but they are too incompetent to pass anything. How the gently caress do you own every branch of government and can't repeal or even alter Obamacare? The Trump cabinet is where the real lasting damage is being done. I'm genuinely not sure how we come back from, say, not really having a State Department any more. The other big thing about the Trump administration that kind of frightens me is that Vice President Not-Appearing-In-This-Administration Pence is being made to look so good by comparison that he's going to be a seriously viable candidate in 2024 (or arguably 2020) and that is not something that should ever have been allowed to happen. That said, the incompetence on display is truly amazing and, while it's a problem too*, it also feels like we dodged a bullet. You know. So far. Best we keep dancing because the bullets aren't stopping. ___ *Having a completely malfunctioning federal government is probably truer to the intentions of the Founders but it's not my preference.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I still don't know the point or meaning of consolidating data centers. it was a major part of Obama's plans to cut spending by trimming the bloated, inefficient government bureaucracy
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Rastor posted:um excuse me if you checked hillary clinton dot com you would have found the most progressive platform of any candidate gonna need the verrit cdoe for this
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