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Hellblazer187 posted:two questions: 1) Is this any less evil than the other repeal plans? It's dramatically more evil. It isn't really a repeal at all, just a skull loving of Medicaid.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:...Eh? er, medicaid, my mistake
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Zoro posted:Yeah, I'm not even gonna lie, I'm already freaking out a bit. This seems way too omnious. Too many things seem to be falling into place. It really feels like McConnel and Graham have spent their time wisely in secret to set this all up for a Blitzkrieg and we're about to get steamrolled. Maybe not, but, gently caress, if it doesn't feel that way now. Lots of it doesn't kick in until 2020, and the Big Thing about this bill is changing poo poo to (reduced funding) block grants. Not that it's not incredibly evil, mind. If it passes I will immediately start investigating departure from Texas, I have a preexisting condition that could plausibly be used to deny me coverage if I ever develop something pricier.
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evilweasel posted:er, medicaid, my mistake Oh yeah, Medicaid gets devastated, especially in red states.
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I think everyone is missing the real issue with the CBO not scoring it. NO HEADLINES! With no CBO score, no headlines, no terrible news: there is no outrage, no coverage, no big number to make people care. It will pass quietly and in secret and no one will know until it is too late. That's what I'm seeing happening now.
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haveblue posted:The guy in the Twitter video looked too KOed to turn himself over for the facebook photo Someone else might have done it or that was the first thing he did when he came to. KO's can last less than a minute and you wake up feeling like SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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Zoro posted:I think everyone is missing the real issue with the CBO not scoring it. No I think we all got that. You're not that much smarter than everyone else on the forums, sorry.
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Chilichimp posted:Someone else might have done it or that was the first thing he did when he came to. Yeah if I were there I probably would have thought about checking to see if he was alive.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah if I were there I probably would have thought about checking to see if he was alive. I'd have been shouting "I also hate nazi's, guys, I just dun wanna see one die on the sidewalk" while I was checking him, though...
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https://twitter.com/Alexruoff/status/909871296221257729 This is McCain's stance AFTER Ducey comes out in support of the bill, FWIW. Yes I know, it's John McCain, do with these quotes what you will.
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Spiritus Nox posted:https://twitter.com/Alexruoff/status/909871296221257729 wow, that's very good. and yes, mccain...but he did come through on his process concerns last time
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Spiritus Nox posted:https://twitter.com/Alexruoff/status/909871296221257729 He could be telling the truth, but it's not something to hedge your bets on.
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Spiritus Nox posted:https://twitter.com/Alexruoff/status/909871296221257729 I am giving him the tiniest possible benefit of the doubt on this one.
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Spiritus Nox posted:https://twitter.com/Alexruoff/status/909871296221257729 I don't loving buy it I'm sorry my friends maybe I'm possessed by the ghost of Covok but until Oct 1 comes around and there is no GOP healthcare bill passed I'm going to piss my pants just a little bit constantly
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twice burned ice posted:No I think we all got that. You're not that much smarter than everyone else on the forums, sorry. Sorry, you're right. I was being foolish and overreacting.
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Rand Paul is not a squishy politician. He proudly votes no on bills that have 99 yes votes, when he decides he's against something, then thats it. I'm counting Paul and Collins as hard no's, and McCain/Murkowski as likely no's. McConnell has to flip both Murkowski and McCain.
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berserker posted:I don't loving buy it i wouldn't bet 32 million american lives on it or anything but it's an improvement from his earlier comments
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Rigel posted:Rand Paul is not a squishy politician. He proudly votes no on bills that have 99 yes votes, when he decides he's against something, then thats it. I think that's fair except I wouldn't consider McCain and Murkowski in the same league. I would not be surprised if McCain voted for this: I would be surprised if Murkowski did. I'd say it's more like McCain is a legitimate undecided while Murkowski is a likely no.
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https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/909872030471868416 Because of course.
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Holy poo poo guys come on, pick your loving targets. They started chanting "Yes or no" and Pelosi inquired "To what??"
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I like to think Rand is saying the GOP should overrule an okay by the rules dude and say it can't be reconciliation.
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Ugh I officially no longer care about whatever poor person killing scheme they come up with because it's such a loving emotional roller coaster every time. Now I'm just going to consider whatever they pass one more step towards single payer because that NEEDS to be the end result of loving the system this much.
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aware of dog posted:https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/909872030471868416 Disturbing if true.
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John McCain's game is maximizing exposure. He realized that once he was on record as supporting G-C, everyone focused like laser on Murkowski and Collins instead.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:John McCain's game is maximizing exposure. He realized that once he was on record as supporting G-C, everyone focused like laser on Murkowski and Collins instead. He was on the record supporting it weeks ago
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Called both of my Senators. In Texas though, so probably won't matter. This is exhausting.
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theflyingorc posted:He was on the record supporting it weeks ago And no one cared because it hadn't become a credible threat with nearly 50 votes behind it. He was supporting it because his old buddy was the co-author. Now his calculus has changed.
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This presidency is like a TV show that keeps bringing back poo poo from previous episodes as fanservice and it just gets more tired and hackneyed with every iteration. And this is only the first season. I don't mean to be overly optimistic about this, but I'm hoping this is just another example of the GOP punching themselves in the dick as publicly as possible.
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Office Pig posted:Implications? If the bill gets changed, I think it would need to be rescored by the cbo. Besides that, nothing I can see. McCain is still voicing reluctance and he's also still a republican
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Reposting from health-thread: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/909882947217608704
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Don't even have a CBO score for the current version, my gut says this fails, but who the gently caress knows anymore.
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Here's some good news amidst all the terrible Healthcare news: The creator of Pepe is finally sending out the C&Ds. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8gaa/pepe-the-frogs-creator-lawsuits-dmca-matt-furie-alt-right
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