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Aquila posted:I just had an Exquisite Timing run tanked by the assassin sabotaging my research, ends up it delays shadow chamber projects too. Maybe if I had have chosen research perfectly I'd have time for it, but as it stands I think I'll be at least 3 days late. Building ranger, ranger, reaper templar, run and gun specialist, spark, and anything seems the way to go, especially after playing betastrike for a while. Any tips for Vanilla? I'll be firing up my Timing run after this one. Seems like you'd skip workshop and AWC, and maybe even delay GTS in favor for a fast lab?
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During the Chosen missions the Warlock says to you "We're here to protect you from what comes next" and I feel that was said in the first game as well? So surely that's their plan for the next game.
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Sep 19, 2017 10:33
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Something the game never mentions on those "sneaky" rescue missions is that you can use the reapers claymore and blow it up and it doesnt trigger any kind of response/alarms. So you can either just blow a hole in the wall to rescue your soldier more easily or blow up the door.
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Sep 19, 2017 10:36
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FrickenMoron posted:Something the game never mentions on those "sneaky" rescue missions is that you can use the reapers claymore and blow it up and it doesnt trigger any kind of response/alarms. So you can either just blow a hole in the wall to rescue your soldier more easily or blow up the door. But picking up the soldier reveals you.
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Sep 19, 2017 10:55
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Doesn't matter when you can instantly run to the evac because there's a huge hole in the wall.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:06
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haha. Game on PS4 was overflowing with aliens and lost. hahaha. the game crashed. ha. my ironman save was corrupted. ahahaha Hahahahahahanaha.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:15
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Are all supply raid missions going to be the new type where it gets extracted every turn? Because the one i got had the lost AND the Chosen Assassin show up which is just way to much poo poo happen to get any boxes in a good amount of time.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:28
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Are all supply raid missions going to be the new type where it gets extracted every turn? Because the one i got had the lost AND the Chosen Assassin show up which is just way to much poo poo happen to get any boxes in a good amount of time. The old style supply raid where you simply avoid destroying the boxes still exists. Thats true in general, no mission types were cut but since they added an alternative to basically all of them its possible you won't see the ones you like in a single campaign.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:30
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Are all supply raid missions going to be the new type where it gets extracted every turn? Because the one i got had the lost AND the Chosen Assassin show up which is just way to much poo poo happen to get any boxes in a good amount of time. When it's lost and ADVENT I often send a reaper up and just do loads of Remote Starts. That'll sort it out pretty fast.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:45
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The new supply raids are the old terror, the new terror are... some weird bullshit where you show up on scene and mop up for the resistance.
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Sep 19, 2017 11:45
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The new resistance missions would probably would be a challenge if the Advent AI wasn't catatonic most of the time. After researching plasma rifles, but being too poor to upgrade, I was ruefully musing over the occasional additional resistance soldier from the card/continent bonus that come equipped with them. Then, on the second mission they appeared after plasma research, I noticed they have 95 aim? My jaw dropped.
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Sep 19, 2017 12:16
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UFO Defense mission this morning. Killed the Viper King, lost both SPARKs, my good one went out covering a rookie carrying my good sharpshooter back to the ramp.  Julian, she will not be forgotten.
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Sep 19, 2017 12:49
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quote:During the Chosen missions the Warlock says to you "We're here to protect you from what comes next" and I feel that was said in the first game as well? The Assassin recognizes that what the Elders are doing is awful, humanity's getting a raw deal out of it but doesn't think they have a choice and that humanity basically has to take one for the team and pleads with XCOM to stop. When she dies she hopes XCOM wins so I guess she thinks they can take it by that point. HOOLY BOOLY posted:Please have XCOM 3 treat the story like Humanity lost yet again and we are just going to be fighting the aliens with sticks and rocks. "Hello, Commander. How did you gently caress this up again? Jesus Christ. I found someone else this time. Get hosed, Commander." quote:What are the possible Chosen sabotages? I was expecting a building to explode or something but the Assassin just stole my data cache. I had 230 intel. What are the possible Chosen sabotages? I was expecting a building to explode or something but the Assassin just stole my data cache. I had 230 intel. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 13:00
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I dont know about the full list but here's the things that happened to me: -Injures an Engineer -Injures a Scientist -Delays Covert Ops / Research by 7 days -Steals Intel -Instills fear of the chosen trait on several soldiers -Steals weapon mods / Elerium Cores / PCS
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Sep 19, 2017 13:27
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FrickenMoron posted:I dont know about the full list but here's the things that happened to me: noooo
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Sep 19, 2017 13:32
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but in my last mission I had 2 of my guys catch fire, but I immediately moved them and hunkered in order to put it out. Burning, like poison sometimes doesn't proc and if you evac/win before the next turn, it will not injure soldiers. Hunkering has never put out fires and I feel trolled. temple fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 13:33
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Is there any reason not to wreck up the Chosen at the first opportunity? The Hunter didn't manage to get to the first level of knowing about XCOM before I had people fastroping into his living room.
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Sep 19, 2017 13:42
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Danaru posted:Is there any reason not to wreck up the Chosen at the first opportunity? The Hunter didn't manage to get to the first level of knowing about XCOM before I had people fastroping into his living room. But who will you farm for ability points then?
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Sep 19, 2017 13:44
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RBA Starblade posted:noooo Cores are fine, just wait until they steal your superior repeater
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Pyromancer posted:But who will you farm for ability points then? Dammit I should have thought of that. He even had a melee vulnerability which is hilarious because I have like five high ranked rangers.  At the very least I can be super smug that the Chosen specifically have taken more casualties than XCOM  I've only lost a single Spark, although hoo man there's been a lot of panicked sprints to the evac zone carrying bleeding out comrades. The Hunter mission ended with one guy dazed, one guy bleeding out, three people covered in acid, and one guy mind controlled. It was a complete miracle that a ranger's bondmate had a single movement left, and I used it to Teamwork the ranger and loving vapourize the chosen with an axe 
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Sep 19, 2017 13:58
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I'm pretty sure the Assassin broke into my base and attached all my attachments to Vektor Rifles. I'm not sure how else I could have gotten 3 different setups for only a single Reaper.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:01
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Taear posted:When you shoot (this goes for anyone) is it always always zooming into the face of the soldier so you can't see the results? Turn off the action cam in gameplay options.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:04
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I have a reaper that rolled squadsight, y/n?
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Sep 19, 2017 14:07
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The only way to get rid of negative traits off of soldiers is the med-bay right? They can't just rest it off? I kinda don't have the money or supplies OR room on the avenger right now for it though 
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Sep 19, 2017 14:08
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temple posted:
Hunkering puts out fire now. It even moves to your first action while on fire so you see it. It's a nice change.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:11
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Iron Crowned posted:I have a reaper that rolled squadsight, y/n? n unless you also rolled shred or holo, the damage from single shots is pretty poor!
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Sep 19, 2017 14:16
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Yeah I frequently get squad sight-capable reapers but it's just no good on them.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:19
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I'd never seen the Templar's Jolt power jump to another enemy until today, when I saw it chain to what I thought was empty ground, but turned out to be the cloaked Assassin. I love Templars. Especially this guy, who has Reaper.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:22
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I forgot that Chryssalids burrow and auto-react on proximity so my gunslinger got mauled a whole lot one supply raid.  Does shadowstep consider that a reaction btw?
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Sep 19, 2017 14:26
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Taffer posted:
Wowie, how are you getting the stats below each persons name? Is there a mod or a configuration that I need to enable, that seems quite useful.
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Sep 19, 2017 14:43
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Twlight posted:Wowie, how are you getting the stats below each persons name? Is there a mod or a configuration that I need to enable, that seems quite useful. It's WOTC Detailed Soldier Lists. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1128263618&searchtext=
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kater posted:I'm pretty sure the Assassin broke into my base and attached all my attachments to Vektor Rifles. I'm not sure how else I could have gotten 3 different setups for only a single Reaper. If you make items available and send someone on covert ops at the same time it unequips their weapon. FrickenMoron fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 15:03
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Serephina posted:Why the HELL is this cheevo so drat rare? It seems like such an easy one to get compared to Who Needs Tygan / Exquisite Timing / The Few and the Proud, which require entire playthroughs dedicated to them. Is it because WotC is still so new that ppl aren't looking to get specific cheevoes yet? Couldn't you get it by literally taking 1 tired Reaper onto a Blacksite mission and ghosting the gently caress out of it?
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Sep 19, 2017 15:20
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Praying the PS4 version gets an update. I don't care if it continues to run like rear end, but after three crashes and a corrupted save I don't think this was ready for release. I got through vanilla without issue.
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Sep 19, 2017 15:25
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Roobanguy posted:suppression shouldn't give the overwatch aim penalty. i've stopped taking it because they'll just run the bad aim overwatch. suppression should give you +20 to aim honestly
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Coolguye posted:suppression should give you +20 to aim honestly MOD WHEN
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Danaru posted:Is there any reason not to wreck up the Chosen at the first opportunity? The Hunter didn't manage to get to the first level of knowing about XCOM before I had people fastroping into his living room. The mission is kinda hard if you are still just on magnetics, although still doable. Some folks like to keep them around for flavor / AP farming though.
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The other issue I have with Suppression is that its an ability you want to use near the very end of your turn on a soldier who you generally want to act first. Holotarget, shred, and grenades are all things you want to use first to increase other allies' aim, damage, crit chance, etc. Suppression is an ability I want to save to use against whichever target somehow survives. If I'm trying to minimize damage coming to me, then using my grenadier to kill/injure/shred/HT/strip cover as many enemies as possible is better than using them to (maybe) Salvo and then save them for Suppression. There's zero reason to lockdown a single enemy with it when they can be dead. It should probably be changed to giving an aim penalty to enemies targeted by the grenadier and paired with HT while Demolition (is buffed slightly) and Heavy Ordnance are paired. e: Its a lot more useful on characters like Specialists. Its a good ability, it just isn't a good ability on a class that has better options in combat the vast majority of the time.
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It's a poorly-fitted holdover from the first game, where it fit in well with the gunner tree [putting aside that you're mad for not taking more rockets instead]. You could suppress an enemy, light them up with holo-targetting (this part still exists), turn it into an AoE suppress, and then deal chip dmg to everyone stuck in it. Synergies! It was also grossly suboptimal since more rockets where way better, but it was cute. So, in XCOM2 they actually added good gunner skills that, you know, actually kill people dead with that huge fuckoff gun they're toting. But we still have suppression. Shrug. See also: smoke grenades.
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Serephina posted:It's a poorly-fitted holdover from the first game, where it fit in well with the gunner tree [putting aside that you're mad for not taking more rockets instead]. You could suppress an enemy, light them up with holo-targetting (this part still exists), turn it into an AoE suppress, and then deal chip dmg to everyone stuck in it. Synergies! It was also grossly suboptimal since more rockets where way better, but it was cute. So, in XCOM2 they actually added good gunner skills that, you know, actually kill people dead with that huge fuckoff gun they're toting. But we still have suppression. Shrug. XCOM 1 had Light 'em Up vs Holo-targetting which may be the most grossly unbalanced skill choice in the series. Especially at Squaddie. Hmm, I can pick the one that lets me shoot twice per turn or the one that gives a lovely minor to hit bonus for everyone else 
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