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peter gabriel posted:No I am much more like this Efficiency...pure efficiency. Only need one crane.
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peter gabriel posted:Yeah true so much for realistic physics this time :/ e: drat, this is the release version? Uh oh indeed.... tuo fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 14:58
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tuo posted:so much for realistic physics this time :/ Not to mention https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillySourAuberginePeteZarollTie 
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If I see a video showing that the bug where 2 cars spawn in the same grid box is still there I'm going to laugh my rear end off.
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tuo posted:so much for realistic physics this time :/ I dunno, reports vary, some saying it is some saying it's an old build. Looks eerily familiar though
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Sep 19, 2017 15:03
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Lol its the same game
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peter gabriel posted:I dunno, reports vary, some saying it is some saying it's an old build. Looks eerily familiar though If this is the build going out to streamers and reviewers, it's the release build. Also that Gamersyde dude came across more AI fuckery than just Monaco. Seems like they struggle with even a slight kink as turn 1. https://clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryDistinctHerdPlanking
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Sep 19, 2017 15:11
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So they made a "new" game in order to get out from under that investment scheme the first game was.
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Cojawfee posted:So they made a "new" game in order to get out from under that investment scheme the first game was. Didn't they start collecting money for PCars2 right after releasing PCars1 as a buggy beta?
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tuo posted:Didn't they start collecting money for PCars2 right after releasing PCars1 as a buggy beta? They made it very clear that PCars 2 would not be an investment and any money you gave them would get you the game, and anything else was a donation.
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Cojawfee posted:They made it very clear that PCars 2 would not be an investment and any money you gave them would get you the game, and anything else was a donation. The moment they did it was still not the best. People where rather disappointed in PCars1, especially in missing features, and they asked for pledges for PCars2 already. I don't want to talk poo poo about them, don't get me wrong. Imo, they made a cool game with very much content, but didn't get it to the point of polish they liked it to be and how they advertised it. I still think PCars1 is a cool game, and I am glad I purchased it. I wouldn't have pre-ordered PCars2 else. It was just unfortunate of them. I am looking forward to have some fun in PCars2, and I am sure I will have it, lovely AI and physics and all, if it's PCars1, but slightly better with even more stuff, it's fine in my book. It could be much more, of course, and it would be awesome if they achieved it, but if they didn't, I don't care too much. I enjoy PCars1 for it's fidelity and wide variety of cars, tracks and especially conditions.
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PCars 2 is a content expansion and a legal wrangle to escape their PCars 1 obligations and anyone viewing it otherwise is kidding themselves.
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I watched some vids of the newly scanned Nordschleife, and it looks promising. Especially the section around Kleiner Sprunghügel and Hohenrein into Hatzenbach seem to be a bit closer to how they appear to you when you drive there in contrast to R3E and PCars1.
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Sep 19, 2017 16:37
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peter gabriel posted:Yeah true This is just like every iRacing session that I ever participated in, so if anything it is more realistic than ever. My wheel has been gathering dust lately and I was hoping of getting PCars 2 to get myself back into racing games again, especially if people end up playing online even a little.
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tuo posted:I watched some vids of the newly scanned Nordschleife, and it looks promising. Especially the section around Kleiner Sprunghügel and Hohenrein into Hatzenbach seem to be a bit closer to how they appear to you when you drive there in contrast to R3E and PCars1. Every version of the Nordschleife is built on the same laser scan data, the track owners scanned it and sell it as part of the licence now. Also I just remembered that they announced PCars 2 about a month after PCars 1 came out.
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njsykora posted:Every version of the Nordschleife is built on the same laser scan data, the track owners scanned it and sell it as part of the licence now. Also I just remembered that they announced PCars 2 about a month after PCars 1 came out. Hard to believe, driving it in different sims. Especially since the PCars2 version looks quite different from the Pcars1 version, especially around Kleiner Sprunghügel, which for example imo is way off in R3E. SMS also said that PCars 1 used the laser scan data that is available, while PCars 2 uses a newly scanned model which was not scanned with a laser attached to a car, but with multiple drone laser scans. https://www.gtplanet.net/new-tracks-in-project-cars-2-were-laser-scanned-with-drones/ tuo fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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It sure is good they're spending vast amounts of money to model every single fleck of rock and tar on a sheet of asphalt, and paying someone's kid brother at minimum wage to come up with their tire model. Really appreciate their choice of priorities.
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xzzy posted:It sure is good they're spending vast amounts of money to model every single fleck of rock and tar on a sheet of asphalt, and paying someone's kid brother at minimum wage to come up with their tire model. One pays off in promo vids, the other not so much.
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tuo posted:Hard to believe, driving it in different sims. Especially since the PCars2 version looks quite different from the Pcars1 version, especially around Kleiner Sprunghügel, which for example imo is way off in R3E. SMS also said that PCars 1 used the laser scan data that is available, while PCars 2 uses a newly scanned model which was not scanned with a laser attached to a car, but with multiple drone laser scans. You can't laser scan with a drone, or at least there's no point to. The laser for the scan needs to be relatively close to the surface if you're actually scanning the tarmac and not just taking measurements, and if you're getting that close with a drone you might as well just mount the scanner on a car. Also laser scanners are big heavy things, way more weight than any commercial drone is capable of carrying. That's why the Nords scan data is uniform, scanning a track that size is a very large and expensive undertaking, so now the scan data is pretty much available to any dev who wants the track in their game there's no real point in rescanning it unless you want to make WE SCANNED TRACKS WITH DRONES a marketing point.
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njsykora posted:there's no real point in rescanning it unless you want to make WE SCANNED TRACKS WITH DRONES a marketing point. PCars 3 marketing VP spotted
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Best argument I can see for using drones is doing lidar scans of the surrounding environment to try and get centimeter perfect model of the trees along the side of the track that no one gives a poo poo about.
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Goodness is it already Goons Hating on Project CARS season again? It's a good racing game. Lots of stuff improved from the first one. I'm looking forward to seeing how the online stuff is this time around, I haven't had a chance to try that out in dev builds.
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Kilmers Elbow posted:What time's the AC update due? It finally landed a couple of hours ago. I snatched it up immediately and started out with the Ferrari 1967 F1 at Nords special event. Managed gold on my 4th lap with a 7:01 - which the RSR app claimed was a world record, but I'm afraid it's not updating properly. The car is glorious.
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Steen71 posted:It finally landed a couple of hours ago. I snatched it up immediately and started out with the Ferrari 1967 F1 at Nords special event. Managed gold on my 4th lap with a 7:01 - which the RSR app claimed was a world record, but I'm afraid it's not updating properly. Awesome, downloading now 
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Well, I've got yakcity sax ready for making vids https://clips.twitch.tv/ToughApatheticOysterTriHard 
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Eyud posted:Lots of stuff improved from the first one. such a shame its still gonna be bad.
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OhsH posted:such a shame its still gonna be bad. Don't worry, all of those promised improvements and features will be added in the next version, believe me. It's a shame the game is so drat pretty and I won't enjoy it due to all its other issues... At least they did something right.
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tuo posted:BTW: any CrewChief users on here? Yeah.
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Yeah, I use it for everything, even for AMS instead of the game's own spotter.
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I used to use Crew Chief for pCARS and yeah, it's great. Hope he updates it for 2.
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tuo posted:BTW: any CrewChief users on here? Hell yes I love it. Although for some reason at the moment at the start of every session he tells me my engine is toast. Great program though
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Harminoff posted:I was excited for ovals 
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peter gabriel posted:Yeah true Welp, glad I got into iRacing instead of waiting for PCars2 Vando posted:PCars 2 is a content expansion and a legal wrangle to escape their PCars 1 obligations and anyone viewing it otherwise is kidding themselves. Every racing game, just like every sports game, is barely an incremental improvement over the same engine and some of the same assets as the last game. That's a given. But yeah, this seems to be a pretty minor update.
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I'm gonna give pCars2 a try at least, I don't care how realistic it is or whatever, I just never really got on board with how driving subjectively felt to me in pCars1. If this fixes that aspect for me I'll happily give them 50 bucks to hoon around in the rain from time to time.
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Zaphod42 posted:Welp, glad I got into iRacing instead of waiting for PCars2 I feel like Forza, with the exception of 5 has always been enough of an improvement to justify buying. PCars 2 is stuff that was ready for PCars 1 but they decided to save it for 2 for no good reason.
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I'm also an avid CrewChief user. Don't even know how I was able to race before. It helps so much having a spotter especially directly after start.
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Cojawfee posted:I feel like Forza, with the exception of 5 has always been enough of an improvement to justify buying. PCars 2 is stuff that was ready for PCars 1 but they decided to save it for 2 for no good reason. The first Project Cars wasn't entirely ready for release to begin with, I don't think it would have been improved by trying to stick even more things into the game.
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