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steinrokkan posted:You were OK with a full on neoliberal shill until the moment somebody started floating socialist policies. Now it is problematic. purely an electability thing, which I was wrong about single payer isn't socialist, and these are specific problems with single payer itself and should be addressed at the same time
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:purely an electability thing, which I was wrong about 
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Main Paineframe posted:in general, it's amusing that the same people opposing single-payer because it might cost jobs are the same ones who have cheered on slashing government employment in the name of efficiency and lowering costs Well that's because these same people do everything they can to avoid acknowledging that Obama tried to gut Social Security 
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socialism is social ownership of the means of production: lovely market socialist systems could have profit-driven worker-owned healthcare
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what i find odd about WJ is he spent an entire year disparaging the left and berniebros but now wants to ingratiate himself here and in DnD with leftists. like why bother?
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So Trump is saying we might have no choice but to destroy North Korea at the UN this morning
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Scent of Worf posted:anyone know what an eight percenter is? A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS
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Scent of Worf posted:anyone know what an eight percenter is? HENRYs and up the top 8 percent of wealth before you hit the 1 percent of disgustingly wealthy people
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Scent of Worf posted:anyone know what an eight percenter is? I think it's referring to the supposed 8% of Sanders primary voters who voted for Trump?
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Scent of Worf posted:anyone know what an eight percenter is? among democrats bernie has a 92% approval rating
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KomradeX posted:So Trump is saying we might have no choice but to destroy North Korea at the UN this morning sigh
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Frijolero posted:The window has shifted permanently. like gover's house when the swamp subsides
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Scent of Worf posted:anyone know what an eight percenter is? eight percent of Dems don't like Sanders, and a couple Twitter people are trying very poorly to turn it into a forced meme
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Main Paineframe posted:eight percent of Dems don't like Sanders, and a couple Twitter people are trying very poorly to turn it into a forced meme also Hillary got 3M more votes in the primary than Bernie did, making her straightforwardly a better politician and person
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shrike82 posted:what i find odd about WJ is he spent an entire year disparaging the left and berniebros but now wants to ingratiate himself here and in DnD with leftists. killing time mostly. Facebook has much better leftists, as opposed to liberals who pretend calling themselves progressive means anything (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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today I learned that the lead actress in the #resistance favorite The Handmaid's Tale is a devout Scientologist talk about fuckin' irony holy poo poo
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Taintrunner posted:today I learned that the lead actress in the #resistance favorite The Handmaid's Tale is a devout Scientologist so is Bart Simpson's VA they're everywhere
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Serf posted:personally i think we should nationalize a shitload of stuff that counts as basic for human survival. everything from agriculture to power production to healthcare. really everything should be nationalized, but we'll get there
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hillary calling herself a progressive was chiefly for electability reasons, mind...
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Fast Luck posted:nationalize something awful dot com this but unironically
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will this preserve the mod pensions? asking for a friend
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Serf posted:have a little hope do not trust to hope, it has forsaken these lands
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logikv9 posted:will this preserve the mod pensions? asking for a friend under glorious communism all mod needs will be met in return for their labor as moderators
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gently caress that no mods no masters smash the subforum
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logikv9 posted:will this preserve the mod pensions? asking for a friend never fear, friend. they shall in fact be raised to a luxurious $1 per year
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Serf posted:under glorious communism all mod needs will be met in return for their labor as moderators inshallah
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logikv9 posted:will this preserve the mod pensions? asking for a friend the mods will be provided food, shelte,r and healthy labor at one of our numerous alaskan camps
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:killing time mostly. Facebook has much better leftists, as opposed to liberals who pretend calling themselves progressive means anything lmao, he's so weird. you can tell he listens to chapo and follows leftist twitter. and then he spouts the most banal centrist talking points. 
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:also wj: "we can't abolish private prison management because of all the people it'd put out work" big harris supporter huh
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:also wj: "we can't abolish private prison management because of all the people it'd put out work" imagine all of the businesses people could start if they weren't in prison and didn't have to worry about healthcare, sad!
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logikv9 posted:will this preserve the mod pensions? asking for a friend mods will be replaced by low skill IK scabs
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KEITH! https://twitter.com/michaelwhitney/status/910017612184043520
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I think "single payer will kill 500k jobs and part of the program should be a plan for these displaced workers beyond bullshit job skills retraining programs that we mock in any other context" but that's just me
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Jazerus posted:or we could have ubi and accept somewhat diminished economic productivity as the price of a healthy, free society
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Keith owns
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shrike82 posted:what i find odd about WJ is he spent an entire year disparaging the left and berniebros but now wants to ingratiate himself here and in DnD with leftists. I dunno if you're going to waste your time disparaging berniebros, a thing that does not exist, then I can imagine you wasting your time on all sorts of things
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"doing the right thing is hard so we may as well never even try. that's just the sensible and wise centrist position. i'm gently caress johnson. i believe in nothing and stand for no one. vote for me."
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