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LOL my work-issued ipad air 2 will be getting the update edit: just checked, it's actually an OG air Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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My Linux Rig posted:so do windows pcs if new versions of windows are slower, which is rare, its due to added features. in ios they just make the existing features slower.
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Sep 19, 2017 16:57
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Binary Badger posted:EXCUSE ME BUT I THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY "GRAPHIC NOVELS" which is immediately undone by the full set of scott pilgrim
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Sep 19, 2017 17:04
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Lutha Mahtin posted:LOL my work-issued ipad air 2 will be getting the update actually now i'm curious how ios11 on it will compare to my nexus 5x with android 8.0. the nexus has twice the ram and a faster/more-core cpu but with 8.0 a few UI elements have started laggin' a bit props to apple for somehow beating android to having a real, visible, first-party file manager app. android has one but it's just a helper that can be called when an app wants to let the user supply an arbitrary file
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Sep 19, 2017 17:06
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Lutha Mahtin posted:android has one but it's just a helper that can be called when an app wants to let the user supply an arbitrary file
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Sep 19, 2017 17:11
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do iphones 8/ecks ship with ios11 pre-installed this time?
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Sep 19, 2017 17:19
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holy crap how am i excited for an OS release. i thought all OS was POS???? but all these ipad enhancements will seriously improve my flows for the dumb forms and things i have to do all the time at work. for example it's so tedious r.n. to do my boilerplate documentation: fill out forms in pages/numbers, then export export export to an icloud folder, then go to mail and import import import to send them offbutt dickus posted:there's a file browser in settings, i think it was added in 7.0. you can also get to it from downloads yeah i guess i meant to say that it's not a real front and center "this is an actual app you might find useful" the way the ios Files app looks. the android one is just there for file-picking and light filesystem janitoring
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Sep 19, 2017 17:20
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i'm gonna update my 5s because it looks like the new version will make it harder for me to crash my car for once
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Sep 19, 2017 17:23
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Shaggar posted:in ios they just make the existing features slower. at least it doesn't become harder to use too like basic settings in windows 10
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Sep 19, 2017 17:30
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ios is worse to use with every release. aside from win 8, windows is better w/ each release.
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Sep 19, 2017 17:32
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Shaggar posted:ios is worse to use with every release. aside from win 8, windows is better w/ each release. yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion man
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Sep 19, 2017 17:42
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oh so now we are suddenly going to stop pretending that the concept of files confuses people. got it.
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Sep 19, 2017 17:44
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Wheany posted:oh so now we are suddenly going to stop pretending that the concept of files confuses people. got it. Apple invented it so it must be great
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My Linux Rig posted:at least it doesn't become harder to use too the last couple of updates have felt like an incremental patching of that mess
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Sep 19, 2017 18:04
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Wheany posted:oh so now we are suddenly going to stop pretending that the concept of files confuses people. got it. it does tho. like for real there's a generation of people who will answer the question "where did you save the file" with "in word" i guess technically it's the concept of a filesystem that confuses them, but they confused af
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Sep 19, 2017 18:14
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looks like the update is out if you are in a hurry for some reason.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:18
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I'm going to wait for the first point release or more likely a few days from now when the red badge on the settings app enrages me
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Sep 19, 2017 18:26
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Crying havoc and letting slip the dice of war across the Rubicon.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:29
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Shaggar posted:ios is worse to use with every release. aside from win 8, windows is better w/ each release. quoting shaggar defending windows vista and ME
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Sep 19, 2017 18:30
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infernal machines posted:it does tho. like for real there's a generation of people who will answer the question "where did you save the file" with "in word" the concept of files is a relic from the days when computers were primitive. people don't want files. they want their documents and their music and their pictures. the fact that these are implemented in hierarchical file systems is not something normal users should care about, just like they don't care that their email is on an imap server or in gmail or whatever, it's just emails in your mail client.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:37
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Shifty Pony posted:looks like the update is out if you are in a hurry for some reason.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:40
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just installed it, stuff looks different, still cant go in to Phone settings with airplane mode enabled >
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Sep 19, 2017 18:45
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The Management posted:the concept of files is a relic from the days when computers were primitive. people don't want files. they want their documents and their music and their pictures. the fact that these are implemented in hierarchical file systems is not something normal users should care about, just like they don't care that their email is on an imap server or in gmail or whatever, it's just emails in your mail client.  i've said as much here before.apple on the other hand has decided that people want to janitor files on their telephone
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Sep 19, 2017 18:46
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The Management posted:quoting shaggar defending windows vista and ME vista was fine. I never used me.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:06
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The Management posted:the concept of files is a relic from the days when computers were primitive. people don't want files. they want their documents and their music and their pictures. the fact that these are implemented in hierarchical file systems is not something normal users should care about, just like they don't care that their email is on an imap server or in gmail or whatever, it's just emails in your mail client. once you get past the amorphous blob of "my music" or "my documents" or "my pictures" you need to organize them somehow.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:27
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ultravoices posted:once you get past the amorphous blob of "my music" or "my documents" or "my pictures" you need to organize them somehow. But this is a presentation/content separation thing, isn't it? The user doesn't gain anything by having to manage the content so why force them to if it isn't strictly necessary?
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Sep 19, 2017 19:30
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wait so is the ios relic browser good or bad?
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Sep 19, 2017 19:40
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Posting on the page corresponding to the size of video memory (in KB) in some of the higher-end Macintosh LC machines.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:45
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ultravoices posted:once you get past the amorphous blob of "my music" or "my documents" or "my pictures" you need to organize them somehow. sure. but mapping your music to a tree hierarchy hardly makes sense. there are multiple sorting dimensions. what you really want is proper metadata and views into that database along various axes. sticking artist/album/01-title.mp3 into your file system is just one way of shoehorning that metadata in with only one sorting axis.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:46
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too bad we can only have one or the other
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Sep 19, 2017 19:47
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Schadenboner posted:But this is a presentation/content separation thing, isn't it? The user doesn't gain anything by having to manage the content so why force them to if it isn't strictly necessary? because some people are probably going to organize things in a way that is meaningful to them?
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Sep 19, 2017 19:52
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iOS 11 seems good on my 10.5 iPad Pro thx craig
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Sep 19, 2017 19:54
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The Management posted:sure. but mapping your music to a tree hierarchy hardly makes sense. there are multiple sorting dimensions. what you really want is proper metadata and views into that database along various axes. sticking artist/album/01-title.mp3 into your file system is just one way of shoehorning that metadata in with only one sorting axis. tbh i'd take artist/album/01-title.mp3 over whatever the gently caress iTunes/Music.app is doing
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Sep 19, 2017 19:54
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Schadenboner posted:But this is a presentation/content separation thing, isn't it? The user doesn't gain anything by having to manage the content so why force them to if it isn't strictly necessary? They shouldn't have to but the option would be available to them if they want to. Apple did good in forcing developers out of their lovely habits, and can now make the option available to pro users without having to worry about developers using the file system as a lovely crutch.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:54
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The Management posted:sure. but mapping your music to a tree hierarchy hardly makes sense. there are multiple sorting dimensions. what you really want is proper metadata and views into that database along various axes. sticking artist/album/01-title.mp3 into your file system is just one way of shoehorning that metadata in with only one sorting axis. mp3 genre tags sucks
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Sep 19, 2017 19:55
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The Management posted:sure. but mapping your music to a tree hierarchy hardly makes sense. there are multiple sorting dimensions. what you really want is proper metadata and views into that database along various axes. sticking artist/album/01-title.mp3 into your file system is just one way of shoehorning that metadata in with only one sorting axis. if the categories that the device is going to choose for you are meaningful and needs suiting, sure. i'm going to bet that a user can do a better job deciding which photos are part of "boston vacation" than the device can tho.
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Sep 19, 2017 20:01
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lol the google apps just ignore all this multi-tasking stuff
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Sep 19, 2017 20:02
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obscuring file location/naming/folder hierarchy was a good decision that was made by the teams who designed the iphone and ipad because those devices do not need robust storage maintenance the fact that they're shoehorning it into ios 11 in the face of all evidence to the contrary is further proof that tim is terrified of samsung and other android manufacturers the actual ridiculous-looking act of manipulating files on ios 11 is just the terrible cherry on top of the terrible batch of ideas he's had since the start of his tenure
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Sep 19, 2017 20:07
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ios 11 is certainly snappier and quick loading on my 7 plus but jesus gently caress the larger icons and the disgusting inbox/messages home screens are terrible
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The Management posted:sure. but mapping your music to a tree hierarchy hardly makes sense. there are multiple sorting dimensions. what you really want is proper metadata and views into that database along various axes. sticking artist/album/01-title.mp3 into your file system is just one way of shoehorning that metadata in with only one sorting axis. they should be stored in a tree hierarchy by album and then metadata can be indexed as well with the view being a combination of the two. the hierarchy gives you identifying information for the track which can be used to lookup metadata if it is missing.
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