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Malachite_Dragon posted:They figured out pants for the Wing Diver! Is it a thong?
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Potato Salad posted:The next edf isn't conning out for pc, is it? If it is, it will probably be an honest go at a PC port after the fact. 4.1 was their very first PC port as it is, and 4.1 was already a re-release version.
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Sep 19, 2017 20:44
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i'm all for different takes on the timeless concept of killing giant insects with a variety of weapons, but i also remember insect armageddon. Honestly, I preferred Insect Armageddon more than EDF 4 mainly because it was shorter and more story focused. The main EDF games are fine for just messing around sandbox-style, but eventually all the missions just blur together after a time.
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Sep 19, 2017 20:52
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Vakal posted:Honestly, I preferred Insect Armageddon more than EDF 4 mainly because it was shorter and more story focused. I didn't know opinions could be this bad
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Sep 19, 2017 21:20
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Vakal posted:Honestly, I preferred Insect Armageddon more than EDF 4 mainly because it was shorter and more story focused. Potato Salad posted:The next edf isn't conning out for pc, is it? Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 21:23
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Psycho Landlord posted:I didn't know opinions could be this bad They are both good games. It's just that IA left me wishing that they would have put in more levels and an actual final boss fight, where as in EDF I made it to like mission 50, checked online to see that I was barely half done, and just got burnt out.
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Sep 19, 2017 21:24
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There is a final boss, it's the entire sky
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IA is fine if you want a reasonably fun co-op shooter but it just wasn't the EDF we know and love.
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Also the missions in IA were mercilessly long and varied. Normally this wouldn't be too bad, but 1) it's EDF, so your progress is still all or nothing. If you got 37 minutes into a 40 minute mission and wiped, that was it. No credits, no weapons, no nothing. 2) since they were so long, the missions had a wider variety of monsters, which necessarily locked you into a very small weapon selection since you HAD to use jack-of-all-trades equipment. Basically if they could've done something to address these two points, I would've been a lot more okay with the gameplay itself being subpar compared to the normal EDF insanity.
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Sep 19, 2017 23:05
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ia's air raider equivalent was hot garbage, there weren't enough enemies at a time, weapons were locked behind class level, with later levels requiring tons of grinding but with no short grinding maps available. then there was the ending. god, that loving ending.
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Sep 19, 2017 23:18
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IA's fencer was superior to the fencer if you have arthritis
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Sep 19, 2017 23:22
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oh right, and i don't think ia had rapiers. i fuckin' love rapiers!
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:ia's air raider equivalent was hot garbage, there weren't enough enemies at a time, weapons were locked behind class level, with later levels requiring tons of grinding but with no short grinding maps available. then there was the ending. god, that loving ending. the ending is great if you finish it on inferno though
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Sep 19, 2017 23:47
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That is a fair and correct point.
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So it looks like Iron Rain might be a new engine? That's what it feels like to me. 5 is maybe still using the same engine as 4.1 while Iron Rain is on a new one? Or maybe I'm off base. Iron Rain feels really westernized though. I hope this isn't what we're getting instead of 5.
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Sep 20, 2017 01:02
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its unreal 4, which old edf is definitely not
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Sep 20, 2017 01:26
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For the first part of the Iron Rain trailer i thought we were getting EDF XCOM and got unreasonably excited. Preemtively, I know global defense force tactics exists.
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I want to customize my Balaam and have its feet shoot fire. None of this two seconds of ammo that added nothing to the game. Make him a Big O.
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Sep 20, 2017 02:25
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The Iron Rain trailer looks really good. The only QOL feature I need is either automatic resource gain or make the pick up radius HUGE. The player shouldn't be actively punished for playing a slow class.
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Inzombiac posted:The Iron Rain trailer looks really good. Or just take out weapon and armor drops altogether and come up with a better system.
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Sep 20, 2017 06:01
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Increase armor for every insect I kill. Give me a weapon for every ten.
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Vakal posted:Or just take out weapon and armor drops altogether and come up with a better system. This. But preferably don't do it like IA did, either. Just something that would reduce the time consuming strategy of not killing a last enemy to pick things up, or having whoever is playing the Wing Diver be the cleaning maid for all the dropped loot.
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i'd be fine with just providing an option to automatically collect all the boxes at the end of a mission. if people want to do it the old, incredibly annoying way then let them.
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Sep 20, 2017 15:45
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Have an auto-gather at the end of the mission but make the ones you pick up yourself give bonus weapons/armour. Basically I want a reason to pick them up but not a good enough reason to spend 5 minutes personally collecting them at the end while a solitary ant chases me around.
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Mr Phillby posted:Have an auto-gather at the end of the mission but make the ones you pick up yourself give bonus weapons/armour. This is probably the most likely solution. Not the best but people don't like BIG changes to established franchises. For every 5 things I love about EDF, there is one that is so bad that I can't explain it.
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Maybe they should just make the crates be raw materials that everyone earns both by picking it up and doing things that can go into you making or upgrading weapons? No wait, that's going to be stupid if they try that.
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It's the fact you can get duplicates that's the real killer when it comes to the weapons drop system. I unlocked 99% of the Ranger's weapons legit for example with my PC copy, just needed the tail end of Hardest only and the Inferno Only drops. Then I grabbed cheat engine for the very first time ever and used the (since forgotten/lost with windows crash antics) "Pick how many crates it thinks you picked up" table. "Okay let's go loving nuts with like, 800 item boxes, in a level I know thanks to this spreadsheet should had a chance to drop new guns.... welp!" Inferno's drop tables are also hot garbage for item drops compared to playing proper levels on Hard and Hardest. Hard mode you can't see anything lower than like, level 10 ever, Meanwhile Inferno is still dropping Normal mode guns at mission 65 or some poo poo, and hardest also starts out padding the drop tables that hard mode would never even look at. To highlight this, I'm hardly an expert at this game. But when I was enjoying the mutliplayer diving into random rooms, there were several times where I managed to convinced people struggling with low level inferno to cut that poo poo out dying in Crimson forever only to finally win and get gently caress all, and come with me to hardest mode to murder a bunch of Deroys once and look at that everybody got a bunch of cool guns and vehicles they never had before. Section Z fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Golden Darkness x200000000 for the Lysander Z only for the save bug to undo all my effort.
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Crabtree posted:Maybe they should just make the crates be raw materials that everyone earns both by picking it up and doing things that can go into you making or upgrading weapons? No wait, that's going to be stupid if they try that.
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Seeing as this hasn't been posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SJhjTBujM4 Release date of Dec 7 2017 for PS4, doesn't specify region. But seeing as it's an English trailer one would hope we're getting it at the same time. Maybe PC port for Q1 2018? Also new Balam.
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5th EDF 5 PV, skip to 3 minutes if you just want to see the Barga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOxT4ac8AqU EDF Iron Rain gameplay demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulxzmshbiio edit: Judging by the trailers and gameplay demo of Iron Rain I think it's based around a customisable exo-suit rather than classes. Luminaflare fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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yeah, they seem to be going for something different from mainline edf's "add more bugs until the framerate is single digits" philosophy. i like that the nest was a ruined building, though!
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"add more bugs until the framerate is single digits" is why I love EDF. That EDF5 trailer is too good
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Hoping they take building destruction to Red Faction levels and make it the real Armageddon.
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Scalding Coffee posted:Hoping they take building destruction to Red Faction levels and make it the real Armageddon. Don't even bring this kind of nonsense here. You know they won't and it hurts so bad.
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Kotaku put up an article about Iron Rain and it's incredibly unenlightening. Kotaku posted:There are still giant bugs, but Iron Rain has a sense of dread that much more palatable than in previous entries which instead revelled in the pure spectacle. At this point I'm still not sure what Iron Rain is, what differentiates it from regular EDF other than the different developer or why it's being shown off now with EDF5 right around the corner. Im always happy to see more EDF games, but this is just so weird I want to know more!
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Five looks like a combination of a wacky future that accidentally lucked out in making really stupid 50 foot giant crane robot that blows for real construction, but is great for killing aliens; and possibly a more on the fly "realistic EDF" that was appropriated for war on the last minute? LIke, I've starting to see the new wing diver outfits and I'm liking how it looks more actual militarish and not straight out of 1980s anime as far as the straps around the shirt. Fencer's more blocky design is the only thing I have problems with. I'm going to miss the sleekness from 4-4.1 
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Iron rain is looking like the Starship Troopers game that everyone wanted in the early 2000's but never got.
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Sep 22, 2017 16:38
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Kotaku is garbage, so you get garbage.
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Scalding Coffee posted:Kotaku is garbage, so you get garbage.
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