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ReverendHammer
Feb 12, 2003

BARTHOLOMEW THEODOSUS IS NOT AMUSED
So I ran into a weird thing while shooting some concerts this weekend. I have never seen concert lighting give me this kind of lighting effect before. I thought they were just using large groups of LEDs but I have never seen them cause this. There were many shots that were fine but there were some that had this effect. Any clue what would cause it? Was shot on a Fujifilm X-T2.

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rio
Mar 20, 2008

ReverendHammer posted:

So I ran into a weird thing while shooting some concerts this weekend. I have never seen concert lighting give me this kind of lighting effect before. I thought they were just using large groups of LEDs but I have never seen them cause this. There were many shots that were fine but there were some that had this effect. Any clue what would cause it? Was shot on a Fujifilm X-T2.



Were you using the electronic shutter? I had the same thing when shooting an event with fluorescent lights with the electronic shutter. It has to do with how fast the lights cycle vs. your shutter speed.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
Was it an LED projector? If your shutter speed even on the mech shutter exceeds the refresh rate of the projector you will only capture bits of it. THis used to be a real problem when photographing CRT displays.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

ReverendHammer posted:

So I ran into a weird thing while shooting some concerts this weekend. I have never seen concert lighting give me this kind of lighting effect before. I thought they were just using large groups of LEDs but I have never seen them cause this. There were many shots that were fine but there were some that had this effect. Any clue what would cause it? Was shot on a Fujifilm X-T2.



Leds cant naturally dim, so engineers fake it by having them flicker really fast. Our brains interpret it as a dimmer solid light.

Its why supercar tail lights flicker in slow motion footage too

ReverendHammer
Feb 12, 2003

BARTHOLOMEW THEODOSUS IS NOT AMUSED

rio posted:

Were you using the electronic shutter? I had the same thing when shooting an event with fluorescent lights with the electronic shutter. It has to do with how fast the lights cycle vs. your shutter speed.

Yep, I was using ES at a 1/125 shutter speed. When I looked at the pattern I wondered if cycle speed of the LEDs was part of it. But the electronic vs. mechanical shutter bit didn't come to mind.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
I bought this here wireless flash transmitter thing but my 7D doesn't register that it's going to flash and so doesn't adjust the exposure accordingly. Am I doing something wrong? Are all wireless flash transmitters like this or is this one just bad?

Speedlite is a 430EX and works just fine in the camera hot-shoe.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

internet inc posted:

I bought this here wireless flash transmitter thing but my 7D doesn't register that it's going to flash and so doesn't adjust the exposure accordingly. Am I doing something wrong? Are all wireless flash transmitters like this or is this one just bad?

Speedlite is a 430EX and works just fine in the camera hot-shoe.

Generally triggers and speedlights from different manufacturers don't have TTL compatibility with each other. If you had a Neewer TTL speedlight and that trigger, it might work as you expect. Some cheaper triggers don't support TTL at all however and I suspect that this is probably true for those particular models.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Any tips or tricks for doing time lapses?

Since i'm doing indoor shooting but across different times i picked up a passport to help me keep the color consistent across light temps.
With that said i'm going to aim for some light control with the blinds closed and the light above the table on, but i wasn't planning on hanging blackout curtains or other/more lamps/flashes/speedlights.

I plan to try and place it so its just at top of frame and can be easily cropped without impacting the subject. ( I learned last time the importance of having the framing right before taking the first shot as i didn't, and i had to frame after the first 9 or so shots, but by re-framing on the fly I killed the time lapse/continuity)

I shot the last run based on steps (LEGO building roughly @ 2 shots per page, one with the parts and then after assembly) using a remote trigger. This ended up at nearly 1500 shots but still seemed... sparse/jumpy.
Should I instead just set a timer, put it near the passport, and drop the part while removing myself from frame every 45-90+ seconds like a normal time lapse?
The only downside i see with this is having to go through and find the shots where i'm not able to get out of frame mid assembly or some such. (oh no!!!!)

Ernie.
Aug 31, 2012

EDIT: Wrong thread.

Morkfang
Dec 9, 2009

I'm awesome.
:smug:

internet inc posted:

I bought this here wireless flash transmitter thing but my 7D doesn't register that it's going to flash and so doesn't adjust the exposure accordingly. Am I doing something wrong? Are all wireless flash transmitters like this or is this one just bad?

Speedlite is a 430EX and works just fine in the camera hot-shoe.

That's not a TTL trigger as far as I know, so your camera won't do much except triggering the flash.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

toplitzin posted:

I shot the last run based on steps (LEGO building roughly @ 2 shots per page, one with the parts and then after assembly) using a remote trigger. This ended up at nearly 1500 shots but still seemed... sparse/jumpy.
Should I instead just set a timer, put it near the passport, and drop the part while removing myself from frame every 45-90+ seconds like a normal time lapse?
The only downside i see with this is having to go through and find the shots where i'm not able to get out of frame mid assembly or some such. (oh no!!!!)
I think there are 2 distinct time-lapse "styles" here. The first is a time-lapse of some process that's happening by itself, driven by it's own timing. Like a sunset or a flower blooming. The second is more like what you're trying to do with LEGO - the absolute timing of the shots matters less than the difference per frame.

Trying to get out of the way just ahead of the shutter opening every minute or so would drive me crazy. I'd rather not use a timer at all in that situation and just trip the shutter myself at intervals based on the state of the LEGO I'm building. One frame per piece added, maybe, with a few frames for rotations of the piece or other not-adding-a-piece-but-something-is-happening events.

To avoid the sparse/jumpy effect you can speed up playback (24 or 30 frames/second is typical, from what I've seen) AND increase the number of frames. 1500 shots really doesn't seem like that much for a time-lapse, at 30 frames/second that's only 50 seconds. 1500 pieces (at one piece per frame) is a decent-sized LEGO (if I'm not mistaken) so maybe add a few shots per piece. Those extra frames don't have to be different from each other - a piece is added, 3 shots are taken (or one shot is triplicated, some time-lapse software will do this automatically), then the next piece is added. I find it takes a bit of adjusting my thinking to adapt to 30 frames / second. Say you want to turn the LEGO around 180 degrees in the middle of the build. If you take 3 pictures of that rotation, it will flash past in a tenth of a second and that side-view will disappear. Similarly, at 30 pieces per second your building is going to appear to assemble itself at lightning speed, with details like an odd-coloured brick disappearing into the general blur of accumulating parts.

To keep the white-balance constant, take your camera out of auto white balance! The passport is a good idea, and if you can put it somewhere easily cropped out later, that's fine. But with a pre-set, constant white balance (and other settings!) you should be able to set-and-forget the adjustment without the resulting video looking bad.

Apologies for terminology errors regarding LEGO.

EDIT:
There are lots of example videos out there, I found a ton searching for "lego assembly time-lapse"
This one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl9Ajq_OBcA
has some interesting effects. I like how pieces are gathered into a kind of next-up area in the foreground before being added to the growing model. They also included a sequence where a mini-fig explores the partially-completed model and the piles of pieces and other items in the background and to the sides move around. That kind of thing adds a bunch of frames and helps with overall pacing. That video also has some (mild but annoying) flickering happening, especially on the background wall, probably from camera settings (white balance, ISO/shutter speed/aperture) changing during the shoot. At about 2:18, a large sub-assembly is added to the main model, but it's a bit jarring because the main model suddenly rotates - it flips around, making it harder to see how that sub-assembly I've been watching for the past 5 seconds was added. And the music just ends half-way through, before restarting. Find music (if you're going to use music) that lasts the full length of your video.

\/\/\/ a guitar-pedal shutter-activator is a fantasitic idea! Do that!

ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Sep 5, 2017

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
A buddy of mine used to make timelapse videos of Warham assembly and painting. Because he had his hands full with paint brushes and so forth, he rigged up a trigger that went through a guitar pedal. He'd just lean back, get his hands out of frame and then step on the pedal to take the shot. Like Execudork says, you don't need a regular timing period, you just need a shot per difference.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The circuit for remote triggers are comically simple.. at least for canons that use a headphone style port it's two wires and a transistor. If you can wrap electricians tape around a wire you can make your own for a few bucks. Then you can use whatever foot switch you can dig up.

Ernie.
Aug 31, 2012

Is joining a photography club when starting out worthwhile? I've been shooting full manual for four months now and really feel like I have my basic technical abilities under control.

In the same vein, a couple of sessions from now the club is hiring a model and this is the reason I'm making my post.

Is there a good guide on how to shoot a model as part of a group where I'm definitely outclassed in zoom (I own a lens where the sweet range is 105-300mm)? I'm assuming because of my total zooming power I'll be closer to the front of the group. What etiquette should I stick to? Am I allowed to move around? Should I grab more than one lens with me that day?

Otherwise, what are some mistakes I should avoid when shooting? I'm really afraid of ending up with a bunch of shots where the model has a deadpan stare and it's just emotionally sterile. Are side profiles/silhouettes a dumb decision?

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

Ernie. posted:

Is joining a photography club when starting out worthwhile? I've been shooting full manual for four months now and really feel like I have my basic technical abilities under control.

In the same vein, a couple of sessions from now the club is hiring a model and this is the reason I'm making my post.

Is there a good guide on how to shoot a model as part of a group where I'm definitely outclassed in zoom (I own a lens where the sweet range is 105-300mm)? I'm assuming because of my total zooming power I'll be closer to the front of the group. What etiquette should I stick to? Am I allowed to move around? Should I grab more than one lens with me that day?

Otherwise, what are some mistakes I should avoid when shooting? I'm really afraid of ending up with a bunch of shots where the model has a deadpan stare and it's just emotionally sterile. Are side profiles/silhouettes a dumb decision?

I've rarely found any photography clubs are worth joining but YMMV. The fact that they're hiring a model for a group shoot kinda hints at the kind of 'club' they are. You're better off just hiring a model to shoot by yourself, like pretty much all the other genres of photography. And if you're asking so many questions about shooting the model, you probably have no idea what outcome you want so I think it's better if you look at some portraiture photobooks and generate your own mood board before you hire a model. Deadpan stare/sterile looks/side-profiles could all be good in the right way, none of them are dumb if that's what you want, you shouldn't be asking what we want to see. And again like all photography, you'll have to make mistakes and learn from shooting tons of models, so don't be afraid to make mistakes.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
i tried to join photography clubs to find irl people to hang out with who liked taking photos and all of them were full of pretentious people gone full dunning kruger about their ~art~. Most of them were more concerned with looking cool and smart and less concerned about being fun to be around.
They'd do poo poo like be ultra defensive and secretive of their lightroom methods when most of the time it was doing poo poo that wouldn't be immediately obvious to a beginner like split toning or adjusting 1 colour's hue/saturation. They get really mad if you see what they did and spill the secrets, or point out things like massive blotches bought about by them hitting sliders with a brick. Don't join photography clubs.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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My local club back home was mainly older people (at 34 I was probably the 3rd youngest member), some of whom had taken it up as a hobby while some had come from days of owning their own dark rooms etc and had some interesting stories.

A mix of stuff produced I thought was really good and really bad. Some of them really into bad computer effects, which was a shame. Generally nice people and never a bad thing to know people with the same system you shoot.

burzum karaoke
May 30, 2003

Buy a shitload of gas and start driving alone. Photoclubs can suck a fat dick.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yeah, you'd be amazed how far away from home you can get in a weekend. A month ago I woke up in the Chicago suburbs and that night I was taking lovely pictures of the Badlands under a full moon.

Not that there isn't stuff to shoot near home too. It depends what you're after.

burzum karaoke
May 30, 2003

Being in an unfamiliar place, regardless of how prosaic or banal, can be one of the most creatively rewarding states in photography. Especially if you're a little drunk.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

When I was a teenager I took an after-school photography class and I was hitching a ride with one of the other people in the class who was a retired lady and she asked me what kind of photography I do and I said 'uh mountain biking' and she winked at me and said 'oh so nature pornography' and I didn't enjoy the class very much after that so I guess you should just stick to online forums for your photo chats

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
this is the best photo club to be in, even tho most you are bad posters and even worse photographers

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

8th-snype posted:

this is the best photo club to be in, even tho most you are bad posters and even worse photographers

dont sign your posts

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

burzum karaoke posted:

Buy a shitload of gas and start driving alone. Photoclubs can suck a fat dick.
I have no opinion on photoclubs and their capacities for obese oral sex, but the drive alone part is absolutely 100% the Correct Answer. To a bunch of stuff, not just photography (it's loving fantastic for photography).

My rate of Sunday Drives has fallen terribly over the last half-year or so, from a steady every-goddam-weekend a couple of years ago (for a streak nearly 2 years long) to once per quarter right now. If I hadn't loaned my truck to a friend this weekend I'd be all about the get-out-of-town.

I was briefly in a photoclub during my undergrad, nearly 20 years ago. The main benefit was the head of the club was all about TRIPS! WE'RE GOING ON A TRIP! DON'T MAKE PLANS FOR NEXT WEEKEND I WANNA GO ON A TRIP! but if you own your own vehicle that sole benefit goes away.
You *might* find somebody cool to hang out with and discuss photography and go for photowalks with when you join a club, at which point you both quit the club and just do your thing. You'll have to put up with a bunch of idiots before you find that person, though, so I dunno if it's worth it.

EDIT: Don't worry about the zoom thing. You're barely coherent when you talk about that stuff, I'm surprised none of us have pedantically jumped down your throat over that. Join the club, shoot the model, ignore the neckbeard spewing nonsense at you, learn something.

And go for a drive.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Being solo is a big deal. My wife is super patient with me but I still feel both rude and rushed when getting to a spot and puttering for an hour. She says she's fine but I can't imagine it being very fun watching someone else try to figure out a cool picture.

I'm also much more likely to jam on the brakes and pull to the side of the road if I see something interesting when I'm alone.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

xzzy posted:

Being solo is a big deal. My wife is super patient with me but I still feel both rude and rushed when getting to a spot and puttering for an hour. She says she's fine but I can't imagine it being very fun watching someone else try to figure out a cool picture.

I'm also much more likely to jam on the brakes and pull to the side of the road if I see something interesting when I'm alone.
It can go both ways. I'm with you on the feeling like I'm inconveniencing the other person (typically my fiance) when I'm futzing around with settings and swapping lenses and whatnot. But my fiance is really good at spotting things from the passenger seat. We have a running joke now where she won't tell me what she saw, just that's it's "Totally worth it". That came from dusk on a Sunday Drive a few years ago where she spotted a Great Horned Owl hanging out in the window of an abandoned farm building. Hard brakes, gravel spews, rapid reverse, and then fumble for the Big Lens.

Fortunately for both of us, she's at least as much into the birds and other wildlife as I am, and even more about the insects and plants than me (and I consider myself pretty enthusiastic about those things). So she's happy to watch the birdie through her binoculars while I curse quietly at my tripod.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

Helen Highwater posted:

Generally triggers and speedlights from different manufacturers don't have TTL compatibility with each other. If you had a Neewer TTL speedlight and that trigger, it might work as you expect. Some cheaper triggers don't support TTL at all however and I suspect that this is probably true for those particular models.


Caryna posted:

That's not a TTL trigger as far as I know, so your camera won't do much except triggering the flash.

Super late, but thanks for the replies. Returned it and bought a better one. :)

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Continuing I have an altura speedlite, and a Nikon D7000 is the reason my on camera flash tries to flip up when I want to use the flash becuase it's not a TTL flash?
It's not a super huge issue and the flash works for what I'm using it for (occasional indoor photography), but it's sometimes annoying that it tries to open up.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Sep 13, 2017

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
Yes, but a bigger reason is that you are shooting in auto mode. The D7100 even has an auto flash off mode to avoid that problem without needing to go near scary manual settings.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I've used automatic mode for about 1% of my pictures. I'll double check but I'm like 90% sure the flash won't trigger unless I hit the flash button on the side of the flash.. and that makes it pop up (as much as it can with something on the hot shoe) if I close it down I'm 90% sure the hot shoe flash doesn't fire.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
Why would the hotshoe only fire if the popup flash is up? That's not a thing.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


8th-snype posted:

Why would the hotshoe only fire if the popup flash is up? That's not a thing.

you're right, and I'm wrong.. Just tried it, I haven't used my flash in months, so maybe my brain was on :catdrugs:

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Sep 13, 2017

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Don't forget that button can also be held down and the command dial will cycle through options.

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...
14,216 views so far today on my Flickr account. I've had upticks of a large nature before, 3-5000, but 14000 is my largest. No referrers, just flickr. The number one hit, a simple snapshot of my son not shared on any forum or social media.

Robot Reaches for Boy by B. B., on Flickr

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
"Robot reaches for boy"

*scribbles in notebook* Hmmm... gotta get those views up, what to do, what to do....?

Congratulations on tapping into the cultural zeitgeist regarding the impending Singularity.

EDIT: I just looked through my stats and there was a giant (by my standards) spike on August 24. Rather than any one photo getting suddenly popular, some maniac viewed more than a thousand of my photos, once each. "All photos and Videos" viewed on August 24 stretches to 110 pages. The two most-viewed photos on that day collected 8 and 7 views, respectively, but the total for the day amounts to more than 2400 views. September 3, a more typical day for views on my Flickr, goes to 8 pages, similar top end (7, 3, 3, for the top 3 photos) and 196 total.

ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Sep 19, 2017

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

ExecuDork posted:

"Robot reaches for boy"

*scribbles in notebook* Hmmm... gotta get those views up, what to do, what to do....?

Congratulations on tapping into the cultural zeitgeist regarding the impending Singularity.

EDIT: I just looked through my stats and there was a giant (by my standards) spike on August 24. Rather than any one photo getting suddenly popular, some maniac viewed more than a thousand of my photos, once each. "All photos and Videos" viewed on August 24 stretches to 110 pages. The two most-viewed photos on that day collected 8 and 7 views, respectively, but the total for the day amounts to more than 2400 views. September 3, a more typical day for views on my Flickr, goes to 8 pages, similar top end (7, 3, 3, for the top 3 photos) and 196 total.

That sounds like a bot, but I don't know what the purpose would be. Or you have a stalker,

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


You are not a Photographer hasn't updated in months.

What's a good source of lovely "professional" photos and bitter commentary?

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


toplitzin posted:

You are not a Photographer hasn't updated in months.

What's a good source of lovely "professional" photos and bitter commentary?

this forum

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

One of my top flickr shots is a picture of a Taco Bell taco on the sidewalk. :shrug:

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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


that makes me wonder what mine is, BRB

E: a lovely close crop of a super noisy hockey player. rad

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