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"suddenly a baroque procession came around the corner, but then two of the confraternities started beating each other up with their flags and the priests jumped right into the fray!"
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I was in Berlin recently and visited the German Historical Museum there, and they had these two  exhibits: That's the commander's staff of Cardinal Ascanio Maria Sforza (1455-1505); it doubled as a mace and even had a stiletto hidden in it  Sforza used it when he supported his brother, the duke of Milan, at his attempt to free Milan from French occupation. I don't think that he ever actually bashed any heads in with it, though. And this is a woodcut print from 1520 that was spread as part of a pamphlet condemning indulgences. The devil sits on a letter of indulgence while grasping a money chest and a bishop's crozier in his hands; in his mouth you can see clergymen sitting around a table, while on his head people are walking into purgatory
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I'm Presbyterian, but I just came back from visiting Roman Catholic mass (Mission Dolores in San Francisco) for the second Sunday in a row today. From a Protestant perspective with regards to using Latin or no, I feel it's still extremely beautiful and reverent, and I love kneeling during the words of institution. They had a sweet pipe organ too.
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System Metternich posted:I was in Berlin recently and visited the German Historical Museum there, and they had these two Is his foot in a ... a whatever-the-word-is for a bucket of holy water? With an aspergillum stuck in it? And little demons are flying people up to his head so they can walk into the fire? That's pretty awesome, even if I don't agree with the opposition to indulgences 
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zonohedron posted:Is his foot in a ... a whatever-the-word-is for a bucket of holy water?
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The Phlegmatist posted:mods please rename ADTRW to this no...this thread 
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genola posted:I'm Presbyterian, but I just came back from visiting Roman Catholic mass (Mission Dolores in San Francisco) for the second Sunday in a row today. From a Protestant perspective with regards to using Latin or no, I feel it's still extremely beautiful and reverent, and I love kneeling during the words of institution. That's how it starts. You'll be crossing the Tiber soon enough.
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genola posted:I'm Presbyterian, i'm sorry to hear that
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I've been contemplating the language used at the memorials of Joshua's last mortal meal. To answer you, Josef, I'm inclined to agree that the meaning is more important than the sound. It's about the Word and not the words. Before there was the term 'logos', there was the Logos. Before there was the dao we can talk about, there was just the eternal dao. Now I can't change how someone else approaches and reacts to the Mass, the memorial of that Last Supper. It's unapologetically and unchangeably a subjective experience. In the story of the original Last Supper, even then not all twelve attendants came or left with uniformed spirits. Beauty, including the beauty of the Mass, is received by each person in grace. No one had to invent the joy of beauty, and no one can really fake a substitute for it, either. But outside of the weekly, hour-long memorial to Jesus of Nazareth, I spend most of my time in the vernacular world. Here, I do have control over how I will use language. In my actual conversations like this one, It's up to me how to emphasize which things matter and how I will engage with whoever listens and wants to respond. And on the orders I've received from Christ Jesus through the Mass and through the canonical literature, I am to recognize in the other person the same likeness and spirit of God as Jesus proclaimed. My choice of words ought to reflect this intimate, God-made bond. It calls for a new and renewed language each time. Senju Kannon posted:hey guys! me and 13 orphans are trying to start a religion podcast where we answer questions about religion from people, as well as from the catholic answers forum (yes this is basically a religion based my brother my brother and me and while i am a little ashamed of this i am not ashamed enough). if any of you were wanting to help us achieve this, can you send us a question at smellsandbellspodcast@gmail.com? it would be very appreciated Thirteen Orphans posted:No joke I would love to have you guys and any other of the posters here share their knowledge, wisdom, humor. We'll make it work. Way cool. I have podcast/radio experience from working at my college radio station. Whatever technical questions you got about editing audio, I'm happy to answer them. Check and compress your volume levels, friends. My spiritual mentor suggested I read Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and I wanna be like, "Bro, why couldn't he just make a podcast?"
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The Phlegmatist posted:That's how it starts. You'll be crossing the Tiber soon enough.
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genola posted:I'm Presbyterian, but I just came back from visiting Roman Catholic mass (Mission Dolores in San Francisco) for the second Sunday in a row today. From a Protestant perspective with regards to using Latin or no, I feel it's still extremely beautiful and reverent, and I love kneeling during the words of institution. Hey welcome to the thread buddy. Mission Dolores is gorgeous, but were you in the old Mission chapel itself, or the monstrosity 1950s basilica next to it?  HEY GAIL posted:Hey. What do you call it? Crossing the Bosphorus? The Fourth Crusade?
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Wouldn't crossing the bosphorus be becoming Muslim now
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Smoking Crow posted:Wouldn't crossing the bosphorus be becoming Muslim now
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Come on now, let's not confuse The City of the World's Desire with a modern metropolis.
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Just call it crossing the Danube
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HEY GAIL posted:istanbul is constantinople And it's nobody's business but the Turks.
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If you get baptized with the Russians, would it be crossing the Dnieper?
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Numerical Anxiety posted:Come on now, let's not confuse The City of the World's Desire with a modern metropolis.
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Smoking Crow posted:Wouldn't crossing the bosphorus be becoming Muslim now only until we sell the pope on declaring another crusade
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Worthleast posted:Hey welcome to the thread buddy. Mission Dolores is gorgeous, but were you in the old Mission chapel itself, or the monstrosity 1950s basilica next to it? I was in the monstrosity haha. Even so, still better looking than most contemporary churches (especially inside), and especially better looking than what my melted popsicle of a church looks like. chernobyl kinsman posted:i'm sorry to hear that Can robots have souls and if so, can they be saved?
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genola posted:Can robots have souls and if so, can they be saved? No idea, but if you subscribe to the notion of an age of innocence regarding human children, presumably something similar would apply to robots in terms of mental development and capacity.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:I actually just had a discussion with a priest on Twitter about that the other day: link to this in the thread title or in OP please owns
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Sex with alien robots is not only permissible, it's inevitable. Love conquers all; resistance is futile.
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i love the reasoning where something you can't reproduce with is an "unworthy vessel" UNTIL they remember that old women and women with hysterectomies exist, whereupon they back out of the place their logic led them to with some thomistic handwaving. They loving fetishize physical reproduction and theology of the body is one of the reasons i left (the reasoning behind it is backwards, did you know that? the ban on contraception came first because Paul VI couldn't bear the idea of the church looking like it had changed its mind on anything. the theology of the body is a post-hoc rationalization for that ban, projected onto a cosmic scale. which is why Pershing could tell it doesn't make any drat sense.)
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Mark Jordan's Rewritten Theology: Aquinas After His Readers is really good on the ways in which Thomism has become a buzzword for "whatever I imagine Thomas to have said." Thomas is a first-rate thinker who synthesized Catholic doctrine up to that point in fascinating, provocative, and not always workable ways: many professed Thomists engage with a version of him constructed out of excerpts and reconstruct even the Summa itself in the image of that reorganized and sanitized Thomas presented in seminary textbooks.
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Bel_Canto posted:Thomas is a first-rate thinker who synthesized Catholic doctrine up to that point in fascinating, provocative, and not always workable ways. And he recognized it. Aquinas is the great accumulator and synthesizer, but he never intended to be the last word. His Summa even starts by pointing out that it is for beginners, and we are supposed to go from there, not stop there.
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My Religion 101 class is going to the cathedral of Copenhagen(the Church of Our Lady in the middle of town) for a field trip, and I have been charged with giving a 1-day presentation on Ase/Vane-tro to my class <3 I would straight up love going to school if I didn't have to take math to be allowed into higher education 
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If robots can be saved, then surely, I, an emotionless Presbyterian, may also have that hope as well.
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Pellisworth posted:do robots have original sin All software has bugs.
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Pellisworth posted:do robots have original sin  just saying 
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