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Zoran posted:Baller is stupid. Baller is pretty stupid. The explosion kill range is really, surprisingly high. I don't know about the costs relative to each other, but comparing it to splashdown, baller seems to be so much more useful. The fact that splash has a rnage indicator and baller doesn't is huge in itself.
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I don't know how to escape post patch baller, the range seems ridiculous now.
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Sep 19, 2017 16:22
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In Training posted:I don't know how to escape post patch baller, the range seems ridiculous now. Be using a dualie and barrel roll. Otherwise, ???
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Sep 19, 2017 16:33
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The Baller pretty much has Splashdown range now, which makes it ridiculous. With the HP increase, your only choice is to run when you see one coming at you, and sometimes that's impossible, especially if you get cornered or the entire area isn't covered in your ink. The only way you can stop a Baller now is if the entire team is there to shoot at it. The Aerospray RG's kit is also really good in Splat Zones. Sure the main gun kind of sucks for fighting, but it has fantastic turf coverage, and Sprinkler can put so much pressure on certain areas and the zone. And as established, the Baller is ridiculous. It's really just a strong support kit in general now.
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Sep 19, 2017 16:33
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The Inkpedia mentions that Baller is part of the Object Shredder effects but it doesn't have a handy chart for damage changes like it does for RM shield and ink armor. I hope whoever does the testing for that stuff compiles that info some day
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Sep 19, 2017 16:35
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In Training posted:The Inkpedia mentions that Baller is part of the Object Shredder effects but it doesn't have a handy chart for damage changes like it does for RM shield and ink armor. I hope whoever does the testing for that stuff compiles that info some day I don't have the exact hits to destroy on hand, but the things to keep in mind are that the Baller has 400 HP (300 before 1.3.0, and can get up to 600 max with 57 points of Special Power Up) and Object Shredder is a 10% damage boost. Shooters (not Blasters), Dualies, and Splatlings have their damage reduced by 40% when shooting at the Baller after patch 1.2.0. To give some perspective on the matter, the Splattershot would've taken 9 hits (8 with Object Shredder) to destroy it before 1.2.0, but now it would take it 20 hits to pull that off. 18 with Object Shredder.
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Sep 19, 2017 16:41
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Dr. Fetus posted:I don't have the exact hits to destroy on hand, but the things to keep in mind are that the Baller has 400 HP (300 before 1.3.0, and can get up to 600 max with 57 points of Special Power Up) and Object Shredder is a 10% damage boost. Shooters (not Blasters), Dualies, and Splatlings have their damage reduced by 40% when shooting at the Baller after patch 1.2.0. Ty. So for tri-slosher that's 7 hits (criminy) and rapid Blaster is 4 direct hits, with Shredder. Neither of those are happening by yourself then. I need to learn to judge that distance better than and just run away
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Sep 19, 2017 16:45
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Well I had some time so I updated it anyway https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Object_Shredder#Data Interestingly, since the 1.2/1.3 patch the defensive strength is effectively equivalent to the Rainmaker Shield  It takes like 1 - 2 shots less across the board to destroy compared to the RM bubble. Thats pretty nuts.
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Sep 19, 2017 17:17
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In Training posted:Well I had some time so I updated it anyway https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Object_Shredder#Data Interestingly, since the 1.2/1.3 patch the defensive strength is effectively equivalent to the Rainmaker Shield  Okay, wow. That is really nuts.So if you happen to see 2 Ballers coming at you, all you can do is just cry.
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Sep 19, 2017 17:33
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Lakbay posted:This post made me feel slightly better after people posting their triple S+ since I've been knocked from S to A in both RM and TC and my w/l ratio has been constantly hovering around 16/34 and I've kinda lost the will to play since I can't break this lose streak S+ is basically "everyone who sunk 200 hours into Splatoon1" or is just plain good at shooters, So don't feel bad. I never could stay in S+ in S1 because the lag made my little mistakes huge ones vs the japanese. Some point I need to actually get S+ in rainmaker, assuming I can. It's my weakest mode cause I tend to predict people's movement and that mode is chaos so welp.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:01
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LethalGeek posted:S+ is basically "everyone who sunk 200 hours into Splatoon1" or is just plain good at shooters, So don't feel bad. I never could stay in S+ in S1 because the lag made my little mistakes huge ones vs the japanese. I'm too embarrassed to check but I've already sunk 200+ hours into Splatoon2 so...  It's more disheartening since this is the second time I've deranked from S to A I'm that rando/pubbie people in here complain about that brute forced my way up the ranks through poopsocker playtime It's me, your drooling idiot teammate that compels you to complain itt Lakbay fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 18:09
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Sometimes you gotta gut out learning a new weapon for different map/mode combos. I finally had to learn to use the splattershot Pro instead of running my rear end into the fray and dying all the time in Splat zones. At S+ ranks it switches from close range to long range as the majority of weapons on the board. Doesn't hurt to play a little roller/brush or blaster or whatever you don't normally so you can have a better understanding of say how they have to move differently so you can better avoid or get the jump on them. Salmon run does wonders there I can even use the charger some now, not that I would in an actual game cause I'm not a dumbass.
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Sep 19, 2017 18:26
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I see a lot of people overstating how easy it can be to hit S+. I think people are just better than they give themselves credit for, but it's definitely not easy to get to S+, or even S rank for a lot of people. It's easier than in Splatoon 1, yes, but that doesn't make it easy.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:57
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I refuse to believe I'm that good at video games.
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Sep 19, 2017 20:16
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The hidden ranks we all have also creates a bias. My games are battle to the death slugfests 90% of the time , someone else at S/S+ might be playing 200 points on that scale below me and have a totally different game. I joined a friend who had played all of 10 games and holy poo poo even the other higher character level people in turf war for that game were moving in slow motion compared to what I'm used to. I got to run over EVERYONE by doing the most basic poo poo. Even at level 26 some of them were still playing close to the default hidden rank. Saw the same the first Splatfest were it went from me cackling like a madman to going to games where the average splat count was 3.5 for all players cause everyone knew to dodge, run, or give up if they didn't have an immediate advantage.
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Sep 19, 2017 20:32
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Rapid Blaster: what bonuses do you typically want with this gun? I can't tell if run speed should be good or not. Is there any point to powering up ink mines?
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Sep 19, 2017 21:01
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I use Run Speed, Ink Saver and Ink Resistance, because it's fire pattern makes it really hard to clear ink directly off your feet and escape and it's sub doesn't really have that utility either. I use Ink Saver/Ink Recovery on like everything though bc it feels universally useful and I haven't put much time into chunk grinding.
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Here are the special usage statistics for that period of time in League in Japan. 1. Baller: 20.4% 2. Splashdown: 17.2% 3. Sting Ray: 17.0% 4. Ink Armor: 12.2% 5. Inkjet: 11.5% 6. Ink Storm: 5.9% 7. Splat Bomb Launcher: 5.8% 8. Suction Bomb Launcher: 4.1% 9. Tenta Missiles: 3.8% 10. Bubble Blower: 1.8% 11. Curling Bomb Launcher: 0.3% Compared to before patch 1.3.0:  1. Inkjet: 31.1% 2. Ink Armor: 30.3% 3. Sting Ray: 9.3% 4. Splat Bomb Launcher: 6.6% 5. Splashdown: 5.6% 6. Suction Bomb Launcher: 5.3% 7.Tenta Missiles: 3.5% 8. Ink Storm: 3.4% 9. Baller: 3.0% 10. Bubble Blower: 1.4% 11. Curling Bomb Launcher: 0.5% Also, something to keep in mind is that this is all before the Splatling Deco got released, so only 1 weapon had access to the Bubble Blower. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 21:07
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Is curling bomb launcher that low just because nobody uses Aerospray in league?
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Sep 19, 2017 21:08
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been using the sloshing machine recently and i really like it i gotta say
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Sep 19, 2017 21:24
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In Training posted:Is curling bomb launcher that low just because nobody uses Aerospray in league? Aerospray MG is the only weapon with Curling Bomb Launcher, and yeah, that's not exactly a good kit the MG has. Curling Bomb Launcher can serve some usage in Splat Zones on certain maps, but it doesn't work too well with the Aerospray otherwise.
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Sep 19, 2017 21:24
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DOn't know if it's new news or not, but the Nintendo Treehouse Tumblr put up Tenta Brella info. Treehouse Tumblr posted:
Coming with Beakons and the Bubble Blower. I think I'll enjoy this, I always want more things with Beakons to play with.
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Sep 19, 2017 22:00
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Oh my god yes I'm going camping
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Sep 19, 2017 22:02
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Oh thank god they're giving me an umbrella that can kill people. No more support brella for me
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Sep 19, 2017 22:08
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Really liking how the new brella basically makes you a tank for your team. Will probably be super helpful with a coordinated team
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Sep 19, 2017 22:21
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Dr. VooDoo posted:with a coordinated team ruhroh!!
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Sep 19, 2017 23:27
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Do you think your teammates can shoot through it?
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Sep 19, 2017 23:32
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The pubs are really bad tonight. I just lost rank again in salmon runnings 
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Sep 20, 2017 01:59
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Since yesterday ive gotten 5 matches where someone disconnected on us early on. In A and A+ rank. how are these people getting this far if thier internet is this unstable? im legit considering geting a tenacity headgear with how frequent this is, at least i might be able to do something during the onesided murderfest.
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Sep 20, 2017 02:00
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that people... ...is me!!!! (curse u optus)
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Sep 20, 2017 02:36
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Why are there still people on Profreshional that scatter in all directions during glowfly rounds. Why. Glowfly rounds suck especially hard today because a scoped charger is even more worthless than a regular charger for them.
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Sep 20, 2017 02:37
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I had a glowfly round end with me trying to abuse the pillar to survive and somehow a chum jumped and nailed me I think they're getting smarter
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Sep 20, 2017 02:40
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tap my mountain posted:I had a glowfly round end with me trying to abuse the pillar to survive and somehow a chum jumped and nailed me God I hope so. I want it to be like I'm playing DARK SOULS and have the Asylum Demon jump up and paste me all over the floor.
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Sep 20, 2017 03:04
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tap my mountain posted:I had a glowfly round end with me trying to abuse the pillar to survive and somehow a chum jumped and nailed me Chums in Glowfly Rounds (and Smallfry in Griller rounds) will start jumping if you camp too long on a wall. If it's a large enough wall in the glowfly round you should be able to throw bombs down as still stay on the wall, which can hopefully stop the chums from climbing.
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I guess I luck out big time in Glowfly waves, because as soon as Mr. Grizz says "The Salmonids are..." everyone starts spamming "This way!" while rushing for the egg basket.tap my mountain posted:I had a glowfly round end with me trying to abuse the pillar to survive and somehow a chum jumped and nailed me
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pichupal posted:
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Sep 20, 2017 03:18
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Cool, I won't need to ever with the Splat Brella again
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Tengames posted:Since yesterday ive gotten 5 matches where someone disconnected on us early on. In A and A+ rank. how are these people getting this far if thier internet is this unstable? It's Nintendo's lovely infrastructure. I've never had as many connection issues with anything in my life as I have with this game. Is there even a reason to have the Splat Brella anymore with this around?
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pichupal posted:DOn't know if it's new news or not, but the Nintendo Treehouse Tumblr put up Tenta Brella info. This looks sick
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raditts posted:It's Nintendo's lovely infrastructure. I've never had as many connection issues with anything in my life as I have with this game. Sounds the Tenta Brella might be flagged as a heavy weapon, which would definitely be a big downside to using it.
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