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Push El Burrito posted:I've been reading old Fantastic Four and man, Kirby swerved from odd to great. It's not that he was "let loose" it's that he wasn't forced to draw every single Marvel comic every month. I used to think early Kirby work was just bad - then I realized that he was drawing upwards of 6 or 7 22-page books a month along with co-plotting, and designing/drawing most of the covers and logos, and art director duties. Once he was able to pare it down to FF, Thor, and some cover work he was finally able to use his full creativity and talent. Some of those early Kirby Marvels are rough to look at. I know he's a god and he did some of the most amazing graphic work every created in the mid to late 60s, but some of that early stuff is... not great.
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GPTribefan posted:
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Sep 21, 2017 07:00
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Maximus is obviously truly mad about fashion.
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GPTribefan posted:It's not that he was "let loose" it's that he wasn't forced to draw every single Marvel comic every month. I used to think early Kirby work was just bad - then I realized that he was drawing upwards of 6 or 7 22-page books a month along with co-plotting, and designing/drawing most of the covers and logos, and art director duties. Once he was able to pare it down to FF, Thor, and some cover work he was finally able to use his full creativity and talent. And supposedly Stan was just letting him do what he wanted, and wasn't dictating as much.
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Sep 21, 2017 07:59
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Green dude looking directly into the camera with a big sad frown is me.
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Sep 21, 2017 10:54
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Untold Tales of Spider-Man was really good man
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purple death ray posted:Untold Tales of Spider-Man was really good man The confusingly titled prose anthology book "The Untold Tales of Spider-Man" had some great stories, too.  http://notblogx.blogspot.ca/search/label/untold%20tales%20of%20spider-man "The Stalking of John Doe" is the one that stuck with me the most. quote:Peter Parker is admitted as John Doe to the psychiatric ward, hallucinating violently after being poisoned by Kraven the Hunter. Delirious, Peter latches on to Dr. Gwendolyn Harris, whose name and face remind him of Gwen. When Kraven enters the hospital, Dr. Harris trusts Peter enough to accept his request for gauzes to cover his face. He confronts Kraven, and when Kraven threatens Dr. Harris (after she futilely tries to sedate him), Peter finds the inner strength to break out of Kraven’s grip and take the fight outside The sense of dread throughout the story is great as the reader knows Kraven is on the way, but it also sells the terror of Spider-Man himself as the doctor and attendants struggle to restrain him. I can clearly remember the image of the two big hospital guys laying into him with their best punches to his gut and Peter not even noticing.
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purple death ray posted:Untold Tales of Spider-Man was really good man I loving loved that book when it was coming out. Early Spider-man was the first stuff I ever read (thank you, library), and I was really confused by the multi-part crossovers in the modern comics. And here comes a book that's just more of the old stuff, without feeling like a bunch of retreads!
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Sep 21, 2017 15:36
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I really really loved the first appearance of Cosmic Spider-Man. That was such a good costume
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Sep 21, 2017 16:52
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Kurt Busiek loving rules. I'd love for him to replace Slott as the ASM writer.
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Sep 22, 2017 03:26
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Rhyno posted:Spider-man Chapter One. It's possibly the hated Spider-man book ever. The best part is how a long stretch of issues end in cliffhangers, only to pick up in media res in Spidey's next adventure, and have a flashback to how he got out of the cliffhanger. Like, issue ends with Spidey at Dr. Doom's mercy, next issue starts with Spidey rowing a web-boat through the Everglades looking for the Lizard, reminiscing about how he won that fight with Dr. Doom. Byrne thinks this is staying true to the intent and spirit of the Lee/Ditko originals.
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Sep 22, 2017 23:58
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And people thought I was nuts for hating Byrne so much.
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Rhyno posted:And people thought I was nuts for hating Byrne so much. He totally destroyed the Scarlett Witch/Vision relationship 
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You Am I posted:He totally destroyed the Scarlett Witch/Vision relationship Also I liked Sandman as the Thing's drinking buddy who was trying to turn over a new leaf, and Byrne couldn't even have him backslide or something. It had to be a Vince McMahon-esque evil trick, a plot to fool the heroes to do... something.
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Lightning Lord posted:Also I liked Sandman as the Thing's drinking buddy who was trying to turn over a new leaf, and Byrne couldn't even have him backslide or something. It had to be a Vince McMahon-esque evil trick, a plot to fool the heroes to do... something. I was told of some story - but have yet to track it down - that came out not long after Byrne pulled that bullshit that detailed how The Wizard had hit Sandman with a brain-scrambling ray or something and convinced him that his attempts at reforming were just an evil plot, because The Wizard missed his old buddy from the Frightful Four and wanted his friend back. I really hope that story actually does exist because it gives Sandman's heel turn some actual dramatic heft.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I was told of some story - but have yet to track it down - that came out not long after Byrne pulled that bullshit that detailed how The Wizard had hit Sandman with a brain-scrambling ray or something and convinced him that his attempts at reforming were just an evil plot, because The Wizard missed his old buddy from the Frightful Four and wanted his friend back. That story does exist. eter Parker: Spider-Man #12 by Tom Brevoort. This article has a rundown of the character's history and bad guy/good guy status.
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This is that "as good as it gets" poo poo.      Spider-Man Annual #1, an all time classic Spider-Man issue and the highlight of the first few years of the Marvel age.
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Sep 26, 2017 01:51
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Yeah wow Ditko at the height of his powers makes your muscles tense in sympathy. To this day, when I happen to flex my hands and fingers in an unusual way, for whatever reason, I always think "oh, Ditko would love this."
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Sep 26, 2017 02:10
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That is some good rear end poo poo. And so clean! Obviously hatching and linework have their place (see Mike Grell, Jim Starlin) but it got out of control at some point (Liefeld, Lee)
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Sep 26, 2017 02:23
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I was reading the making webcomic thread the other day and they've got that Tom and Jerry line of action cartoon showing how to emphasize action with curves that accentuate the action for dramatic effect. With the possible exception of the Sandman fight (he uses the punching arc to similar effect though) Ditko follows it to a T.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:28
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Doc Ock been hitting the gym.
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Sep 26, 2017 02:29
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Kraven's nerve punches are always suspiciously punches to the rear end... Wish those recolours didn't need to use gradients so much. It's hard not to love the Electro page the most for its flat purple background.
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Jordan7hm posted:I was reading the making webcomic thread the other day and they've got that Tom and Jerry line of action cartoon showing how to emphasize action with curves that accentuate the action for dramatic effect. With the possible exception of the Sandman fight (he uses the punching arc to similar effect though) Ditko follows it to a T.
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Sep 26, 2017 10:22
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Lobok posted:Kraven's nerve punches are always suspiciously punches to the rear end... I love this panel is his debut issue:  Describing his smashing nerve punch and how it works in the time it takes to throw it is a superpower in itself. 
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Sep 26, 2017 12:02
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I like that Spidey is still really affected by the nerve punch even though he avoided getting hit where Kraven meant to hit him. That seems kind of crucial with a nerve punch.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:51
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Kraven still hits really hard. It's a smashing nerve punch.
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Jordan7hm posted:I was reading the making webcomic thread the other day and they've got that Tom and Jerry line of action cartoon showing how to emphasize action with curves that accentuate the action for dramatic effect. With the possible exception of the Sandman fight (he uses the punching arc to similar effect though) Ditko follows it to a T. I don't know how to find it but there's one panel of Kirby's Captain America where he's punching a guy and he's bent way backwards in his follow-through and it looks basically like that one example of Tom winding up with the newspaper except even more extreme because he's bent so far that he's looking behind him. Cap's whole body makes one, clean, spine-snapping arc.
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Lurdiak posted:Kraven still hits really hard. It's a smashing nerve punch. your whole body has nerves, hes just trying to punch you really hard and calls it a nerve punch so it sounds more impressive
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Sep 27, 2017 02:30
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he calls it that cause it takes a lot of nerve to punch someone
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Sep 27, 2017 02:46
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he actually hasnt been training boxing for very long so he's still nervous about his form
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Lobok posted:I don't know how to find it but there's one panel of Kirby's Captain America where he's punching a guy and he's bent way backwards in his follow-through and it looks basically like that one example of Tom winding up with the newspaper except even more extreme because he's bent so far that he's looking behind him. Cap's whole body makes one, clean, spine-snapping arc. Is that the infamous panel with Cap saying "only one of us will be getting out of here alive... and it won't be ME!!!" mistake? I remember seeing it in all its glory in that Marvel No-Prize book they made in the early 80's 
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Jordan7hm posted:I was reading the making webcomic thread the other day and they've got that Tom and Jerry line of action cartoon showing how to emphasize action with curves that accentuate the action for dramatic effect. With the possible exception of the Sandman fight (he uses the punching arc to similar effect though) Ditko follows it to a T. I recall How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way having a similar couple of pages.
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GPTribefan posted:Is that the infamous panel with Cap saying "only one of us will be getting out of here alive... and it won't be ME!!!" mistake? I remember seeing it in all its glory in that Marvel No-Prize book they made in the early 80's Could have sworn it was Kirby, and the mirror image of that, but either way it's still the same pose.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I love this panel is his debut issue: Jesus H Christ, that anatomy.
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Lobok posted:Could have sworn it was Kirby, and the mirror image of that, but either way it's still the same pose. That was indeed Kirby from Tales of Suspense.
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https://twitter.com/tyrannojones/status/913391701242163202
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Dear Batman: Please get in the Batmobile. Thank you
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Sep 28, 2017 18:51
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Dick Trauma posted:Dear Batman: He knows what happens when he does that. 
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Sep 28, 2017 22:54
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Dick Trauma posted:Dear Batman: He's Bat-riding the Whip
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I made it through the mid 80s - mid 90s of Fantastic Four comics. After the birth of Valeria there's a couple nice little stories at #55 (Reed and Sue send Johnny and Ben out to get some new tech, but a Skrull steals the Fantasticar. After a battle it turns out the Skrull is really Hank Pym with an image inducer and they just wanted to get those two out of the house so they could have a peaceful anniversary.) and #56 (about Ben's backstory, his faith, and why he lets the Yancy Street gang get away with all the stuff they do). The reason I'm posting it here is for the great Stuart Immonen art. I'm in love with the faces.
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