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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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i really want wiggins to become a star and not just some lovely demar derozan clone. maybe no canadians can be good at basketball till the raptors admit we the north is a lovely slogan for morons
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Sep 21, 2017 17:52
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Ghost Dog posted:i really want wiggins to become a star and not just some lovely demar derozan clone. maybe no canadians can be good at basketball till the raptors admit we the north is a lovely slogan for morons RJ Barrett is a beast.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:54
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Ghost Dog posted:i really want wiggins to become a star and not just some lovely demar derozan clone. maybe no canadians can be good at basketball till the raptors admit we the north is a lovely slogan for morons Tristan Thompson checkmate idiot 
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Sep 21, 2017 17:58
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Ghost Dog posted:i really want wiggins to become a star and not just some lovely demar derozan clone. maybe no canadians can be good at basketball till the raptors admit we the north is a lovely slogan for morons Wiggins is hitting 3's at a respectable clip so he's already on track to become more than a lovely Derozan clone.
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Sep 21, 2017 17:58
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Wiggins also loves the poo poo out of his dog, Cassie.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:02
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Tristan Thompson is canadian
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Sep 21, 2017 18:03
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Tae posted:Tristan Thompson is canadian 
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Sep 21, 2017 18:05
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Paul Zuvella posted:While sticker shock is definitely at play here somewhat, I think the bigger issue is that most people dont see him as a max player. euphronius posted:Not only a max but a designated rookie max. A max is not the same as a rookie max, and the designated rookie is only an extra year, not any more money. I don't know why you'd think a bunch of teams wouldn't offer Wiggins a rookie max the second he hit RFA anyway. He's a legit scorer in the NBA and still only 22. As for why they are doing it now, it's showing loyalty to a player who they really want to keep as part of their core. We were just bitching about how GMs like to jettison guys they didn't select, so it's nice Thibs doubling down despite that.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:05
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And extra year is enormous and they can go up to 30% . Be interesting to see if Wiggins deal allows it to go up to 30%.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:10
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Tae posted:Tristan Thompson is canadian Calling black people canadians is not cool.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:12
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Tristan Thompson the last series he was in he was bad so hes literally unplayable sorry
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Sep 21, 2017 18:14
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Is everyone really forgetting Steve Nash is Canuckian?
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Sep 21, 2017 18:17
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Is everyone really forgetting Steve Nash is Canuckian? No false MVP's allowed.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:25
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xbilkis posted:So the realistic worst case scenario without an extension is that he: Surely the worst case scenario for no extension is that Wiggins continues next year as he is currently - a mildly inefficient 20 ppg scorer who plays no defense and is a bad synergy fit with Butler and Towns. Minny gets outbid in FA and are happy to let him go, only for him to blossom into an all-star on another team.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:27
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euphronius posted:And extra year is enormous and they can go up to 30% . What do you mean it can go up to 30? He doesn't qualify for the Rose rule. If you mean the 5th year is 30% of the cap, that's just what the standard raises would be and the cap is likely going to be quite a bit higher in 6 years when that would applicable.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:29
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I have just listened to the Dunc'd On podcast season preview for the Bucks and am re-hyped for watching Giannis again soon. He was unbelievably fun last year to watch and if he improves again this year then holy moly watch out league.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:32
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5 weeks till the season start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqQ6V_7G0Jk
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Sep 21, 2017 18:34
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euphronius posted:And extra year is enormous and they can go up to 30% . If he qualifies for the 30% raise in the final years from the designated rookie exception then he will have earned every penny of his max deal what in the hell are you talking about. He would have made a goddamn All NBA team or won a goddamn MVP.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:36
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I'm pretty sure the cap is going to dip temporarily. Espn et al can not afford more of those TV deals atm Edit: maybe become stagnant. It's too early to tell but the easy TV money train seems to be evaporating Time fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 18:37
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Time posted:I'm pretty sure the cap is going to dip temporarily. Espn et al can not afford more of those TV deals atm I mean they're locked in until 2024-25
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Sep 21, 2017 18:39
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[quote="“morestuff”" post="“476620617”"] I mean they’re locked in until 2024-25 [/quote] Yeah, I'm just thinking out loud separate from the Wiggins convo and more generally about where sports revenue is going to come from in the next decade
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Sep 21, 2017 18:41
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Time posted:Yeah, I'm just thinking out loud separate from the Wiggins convo and more generally about where sports revenue is going to come from in the next decade We're way too far out to guess what it's gonna look like in 2025. The Great Streaming Service Wars are just beginning
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Sep 21, 2017 18:45
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Lockback posted:What do you mean it can go up to 30? He doesn't qualify for the Rose rule. If you mean the 5th year is 30% of the cap, that's just what the standard raises would be and the cap is likely going to be quite a bit higher in 6 years when that would applicable. He could still qualify in his 4th year for 5/30% (the Rose rule) * That's why I said I wonder if that will be in his contract . It was in ADs contract iirc ------ *For example, if this is the 2018 offseason, then a player meets the performance criteria if he accomplishes any of the following: Named to the All-NBA First, Second or Third team in 2017-18 Named to the All-NBA First, Second or Third team in both 2015-16 and 2016-17 Named the Defensive Player of the Year in 2017-18 Named the Defensive Player of the Year in both 2015-16 and 2016-17 Named the NBA Most Valuable Player in 2015-16, 2016-17 or 2017-18 http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q23
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Sep 21, 2017 18:53
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Time posted:Yeah, I'm just thinking out loud separate from the Wiggins convo and more generally about where sports revenue is going to come from in the next decade Unless you are being very literal when you use the term TV, then no the money train is not going away anytime soon. Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Google et al will absolutley be in the mix for NBA rights when they come up for auction next time around. Facebook entered the bidding for the Indian Premier League (cricket) but were outbid by Star (a Murdoch TV company), there are tons of rumours swirling around that Amazon and Facebook are going to enter the English Premier League (soccer) tv rights that are coming up for tender shortly. Amazon already won the NFL Thursday night games package. The NFL mobile rights deal expires at the end of the season and there will be a bloodbath over who wins that (Verizon paid $1bn for four years last time). The old fashioned model - buy rights, get viewers, sell advertising based on viewers - is dying, yes. But the new model - buy rights, get viewers, exploit viewers by driving them directly to your other content/products - is just beginning to be explored.
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Sep 21, 2017 18:53
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So there are three rookie scale max extensions : 1. 4 years / 25% cap first year 2. 5/25%* 3. 5/30%*! All get 8% annual raises . All I was saying is that Many of us probably don't think Wiggins is worth the 4/25% max let alone a 5 year max which is apparently on the table I hope my point is clear now. I apologize for any confusion. * must be designated by team ! Must meet Rose Rule criteria euphronius fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Sep 21, 2017 18:57
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wiggins is a weird player who I legitimately is trapped in a bizarro world of being both Overrated and Underrated at the same time
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Sep 21, 2017 18:59
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Paul Zuvella posted:wiggins is a weird player who I legitimately is trapped in a bizarro world of being both Overrated and Underrated at the same time I always think of this as the Kevin Martin zone
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Sep 21, 2017 19:02
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euphronius posted:He could still qualify in his 4th year for 5/30% (the Rose rule) * yeah. and if he becomes an all NBA player barring injuries(and even then) he is worth that goddamn max.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:04
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Dexo posted:yeah. and if he becomes an all NBA player barring injuries(and even then) he is worth that goddamn max. Certainly Never said he wouldn't be?
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Sep 21, 2017 19:05
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morestuff posted:I always think of this as the Kevin Martin zone This is extremely fitting
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Sep 21, 2017 19:06
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[quote="“tanglewood1420”" post="“476621085”"] Unless you are being very literal when you use the term TV, then no the money train is not going away anytime soon. Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Google et al will absolutley be in the mix for NBA rights when they come up for auction next time around. Facebook entered the bidding for the Indian Premier League (cricket) but were outbid by Star (a Murdoch TV company), there are tons of rumours swirling around that Amazon and Facebook are going to enter the English Premier League (soccer) tv rights that are coming up for tender shortly. Amazon already won the NFL Thursday night games package. The NFL mobile rights deal expires at the end of the season and there will be a bloodbath over who wins that (Verizon paid $1bn for four years last time). The old fashioned model - buy rights, get viewers, sell advertising based on viewers - is dying, yes. But the new model - buy rights, get viewers, exploit viewers by driving them directly to your other content/products - is just beginning to be explored. [/quote] The rules are incredibly different for the NFL than for the other NA sports. It may as well be another industry. Same for soccer and especially the premiere league. I know as of last year there was some posturing among the MLB and NBA internally about a decline in media rights revenue but it could have been motivated by different things (tax implications, union negotiations, internal product offerings). It's way too early for sure but it's being prepared for.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:12
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The Lakers got an ad on their jerseys https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/910915673668202496 I'm surprised. I thought they'd be one of the few teams who avoided that.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:13
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the nfl is the most insanely dumb league about how to view their product. do they still send cease and desist letters for loving twitter gifs. im imagining a jowly old dude wheezing out dust about how them dang twooters are stealing our product
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Sep 21, 2017 19:14
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Time posted:The rules are incredibly different for the NFL than for the other NA sports. It may as well be another industry. Same for soccer and especially the premiere league. It's sad how much better MLB is positioned for the post-network world because they got their streaming product right while the NBA is married to Turner's garbage product
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Sep 21, 2017 19:16
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morestuff posted:It's sad how much better MLB is positioned for the post-network world because they got their streaming product right while the NBA is married to Turner's garbage product Everyone should license the MLB product. It's so dang good it makes me wish I could stand watching baseball
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Sep 21, 2017 19:22
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WHO WANTS TO GO TO KINGS ACADEMY https://twitter.com/SacramentoKings/status/910913414633070593 quote:In his role with Sacramento, Duncan is responsible for implementation of the Kings Academy program, a developmental, player-centric curriculum aligning multi-faceted organizational philosophies and ideals to help athletes mature into well-rounded professionals. Under Duncan’s oversight, Kings Academy will augment on-court progress with access to practical material and experiences that help balance on-court priorities and personal responsibilities with opportunities to become impactful contributors in the community.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:26
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Space Camp fuckup posted:The Lakers got an ad on their jerseys Compared to the other team owners, the Buss family does rely on the team as their main source income. At least the ad is very subtle compared to the others.
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Sep 21, 2017 19:27
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Is there any point to NBA developmental academies? It gives you an edge to signing the kid in club soccer, but if there's any kind of draft it seem pointless
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Sep 21, 2017 19:28
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WhyteRyce posted:WHO WANTS TO GO TO KINGS ACADEMY That corporate new speak word vomit is kings.txt now
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Sep 21, 2017 19:34
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i'm surprised the Lakers didn't put BBB as their jersey ads (i'm not actually surprised)
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