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It's been a disappointing campaign for them when you think about it. Lost their leader Lost about 10% in the polls Labour got a superstar No one really talked about their policies, just about what Metiria did, and then what happened to Metiria. So I wouldn't blame those people feeling disappointed I really hope they get at least 7%
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Nah we all learnt an important thing from it: hating beneficiaries is a pan-political spectrum pastime.
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Sep 22, 2017 11:57
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E. Actually we knew this before this incident [I mean, just look at what our deputy pm has done to poor people who speak against the govt]. But especially so at the pointy end of an election campaign. But whatever roll the dice anyway. It would have been great to have Metiria as minster of social whatever. And she could have been if they'd kept their mouth shut. But now we'll never know. Disappointment. Moo Cowabunga fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 12:05
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Right after Metiria admitted to benefit fraud the Greens shot up to like 15% mostly at Labour's expense. That's what occasioned Little to step down. So really, Metiria is to thank for Labour's gains under Jacinda.
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Sep 22, 2017 12:12
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:E. Actually we knew this before this incident [I mean, just look at what our deputy pm has done to poor people who speak against the govt]. But especially so at the pointy end of an election campaign. But whatever roll the dice anyway. Labour would never have given Turei the MSD portfolio, lol.
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The Greens have always been strong advocates on social policy. The idea that they're "the ecology guys" predates MMP. Social justice is one of their founding tenets. Their only sin was misjudging their ability to withstand the withering glare of a media, wholly apathetic about the significant boom in poverty and homelessness because it broadcasts from a building that they are washed away from, whose three mouths chew endlessly on the bodies of dole bludgers.
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Sep 22, 2017 12:18
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Ecologist parties in Europe tend to be awful because they're purely environmentalist, and the NZ greens were stagnant (even as Labour fell) when they were doing the "we 💚 free markets" stuff.
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I'm not saying that it isn't, but they were doing just fine without going yolo on it especially as they had invested so much in the rivers thing, then seemingly gave that up to try and highlight the homeless and poor. Very noble but however you want to look at it, they cocked it up. Yes greens do social policy, but so do others. The others do gently caress all about the environment except maybe the ban 1080 party which exists for some reason Anyway it's almost Saturday and I don't wanna get pinged so I do sincerely hope my disappointment with green leadership was misplaced and they get 10% or more But I also hope that green leadership don't not look at themselves after this election. This wasn't their best campaign in my humble opinion.
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I would also like to point out that Nat MPs have now been involved in two scandals of serious dishonesty in the last 2 weeks yet the Dom Post won't even publish its story on one of them (Collins, Oravida), and the other barely got any investigative press at all (Jian).
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Sep 22, 2017 12:30
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El Pollo Blanco posted:I would also like to point out that Nat MPs have now been involved in two scandals of serious dishonesty in the last 2 weeks yet the Dom Post won't even publish its story on one of them (Collins, Oravida), and the other barely got any investigative press at all (Jian). The Jian one is baffling to me - it was a "blink and you miss it" story. It had a lifespan of roughly half an hour, before vanishing completely.
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Ghostlight posted:The Greens have always been strong advocates on social policy. The idea that they're "the ecology guys" predates MMP. Social justice is one of their founding tenets. exactly also fwiw the Greens did and do still have a leader, just not two like usual. Maybe it's turned out that they made a mistake in revealing this, but there are so many other factors at play this election that I don't think we can attribute their current polling or eventual share of the party vote solely to Metiria's admission. Is there something else we think they mismanaged that I'm missing?
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Hello friends. It is the 23rd, and I have no strong political opinions that I wish to share. Political parties exist, and their members sometimes say things. Wow!
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i voted for the greens, and you should too. cheer's. https://twitter.com/garethmorgannz/status/911103691167379458
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Hello friends. It is the 23rd, and I have no strong political opinions that I wish to share. still the 22nd here  My strong political opinion is please go do a vote, if you didn't yet e: not you, I mean in general
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Sep 22, 2017 13:22
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A bad post.
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Sep 22, 2017 13:22
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I taught Ben so it makes my heart swell with pride to see him doing his thing
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Hello friends. It is the 23rd, and I have no strong political opinions that I wish to share. Thank you for bringing it to my attention that I have had SA set to Australia time for the past several years
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Sep 22, 2017 16:46
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I think we can't deny it's been an election game and at the end of the day the team with the most points can ask Winston Posters for the trophy
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Pararoid posted:If it helps, Metiria was actually totally right to come forward and talk about hardship she faced 20+ years ago, how it made her a strong voice for people in the same situation and how only electing people who have no idea of these realities is actually how we perpetuate a broken system forever. For what it's worth I totally agree. It was the way they didn't plan the follow up and the way the rest of the party responded (as if they weren't on board) that made me wonder if they could actually run a government if push came to shove. Anyway maybe you peeps are right and good policy is more important than (my impression of) competence. Doesn't seem like team good will be governing anyway so 
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Sep 22, 2017 21:08
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Being 4h ahead of you guys in real time is always loving nerve wracking 'cos I won't see the result until I wake up tomorrow morning 
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Sep 22, 2017 21:57
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SuperiorColliculus posted:Being 4h ahead of you guys in real time is always loving nerve wracking 'cos I won't see the result until I wake up tomorrow morning
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sebmojo posted:I think we can't deny it's been an election game and at the end of the day the team with the most points can ask Winston Posters for the trotie ftfy
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Sep 22, 2017 22:29
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 Im in North Carolina, where my vote will mean literally nothing, but my vote I was able to process overseas with my phone in under 10-15 minutes will mean something. Going to be hard to not stay up for the results
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Sep 22, 2017 22:31
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SuperiorColliculus posted:Being 4h ahead of you guys in real time is always loving nerve wracking 'cos I won't see the result until I wake up tomorrow morning Don't worry it'll probably be multiple parties on 5.0001% and waiting a couple weeks for special votes before we know anything
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Ya I think best case scenario for the results is we don't know anything until after specials are counted and coalition talks can finish in like three weeks. I think the only way we find out tonight is if National significantly exceeds their poll numbers like they did last time. The chances of Labour coming out ahead of National are vanishingly small
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Sep 22, 2017 23:17
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You guys need some actual left wing people.
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 12 year old cartoonist lol https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/97158880/as-walt-hamers-words-taper-off-his-pen-takes-over Lord of the Llamas posted:You guys need some actual left wing people. We did, she got hounded out of politics for reminding the middle class that poverty exists
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I had to actually queue to vote for the first time, and saw multiple people under the age of 50 for the first time, this anecdote is clearly indicative of some broad trend.
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exmarx posted:i voted for the greens, and you should too. cheer's. hell, same for both parts
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My bestie's obsessed with Taylor Swift. Stuff she sings is okay, but I don't get the hype.
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She has some ok songs but shake it off is not one of them and it came out like 3 years ago so Gareth is a bit behind the curve there
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Sep 23, 2017 01:56
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voted, straight Ban1080 ticket.
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Sep 23, 2017 02:00
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I did a write-in for legalise speedweed
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Sep 23, 2017 02:05
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I forgot to grab an I Voted sticker
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Sep 23, 2017 02:14
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So given the number of advance votes that should be counted by 7pm, we're going to have a pretty good idea of the results pretty much straight after polls close, aren't we?
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There'll be an election night YouTube livestream here FYI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g70Gbse7Gg
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El Pollo Blanco posted:So given the number of advance votes that should be counted by 7pm, we're going to have a pretty good idea of the results pretty much straight after polls close, aren't we? Yeah but there will be more special votes than normal due to the enrolling at advance booths so if it hinges on one or two seats here or there we'll have to wait till oct 7th.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:I forgot to grab an I Voted sticker I grabbed one, but my two year old daughter claimed it.
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Varkk posted:I grabbed one, but my two year old daughter claimed it. I love the symbolism here.
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