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s.i.r.e. posted:Rape, obviously. Gotta be more specific with what instance you mean because that game is like the wrong side of a porn site.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Gotta be more specific with what instance you mean because that game is like the wrong side of a porn site. Porn sites have more class than Outlast 2.  Is there more than one instance of rape in the game because I honestly can't remember, it's so entirely forgettable. I just remembered there was rape.
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I seem to remember something like that happening in the Tomb Raider reboot. You follow it up by getting a grenade launcher and killing a lot of people
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Sep 22, 2017 19:44
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In the first couple hours of TR2013 there's an attempted sexual assault which instantly turns Lara Croft from a posh archaeologist grad into a bow-wielding murder machine.
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Sep 22, 2017 19:47
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To be fair that's treated as an awful, cringey thing to say in game too as I recall. Also a cringey thing to do I just realized is to have your friend dress up in your dead girlfriend's clothes but whatever.
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Sep 22, 2017 21:35
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s.i.r.e. posted:Is there more than one instance of rape in the game because I honestly can't remember, it's so entirely forgettable. I just remembered there was rape. A bunch of the notes are basically a pewdiepie transcript with more tryhard pseudo-biblical language. Almost oddly enough the like one present lady (Discounting the giant axe wielding lurch) doesn't have it happen though, just a bunch of writing and then your stupid molestation priest flashbacks.
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Yardbomb posted:A bunch of the notes are basically a pewdiepie transcript with more tryhard pseudo-biblical language. With the spelling of a five year old but the impeccable handwriting of a sixty year old librarian.
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The Stick of Truth had this funny segment where you're collecting audio logs from a man whose slowly turning into a zombie Nazi and it's just him questioning why he's bothering to leave this scattered around instead of trying to escape. I can't remember a game where the notes are that self aware. My favorite are when they end abruptly like "I think I hear something behind m--" like the monster was kind enough to add a few ellipses or dashes to their note.
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Sep 22, 2017 21:56
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Glagha posted:To be fair that's treated as an awful, cringey thing to say in game too as I recall. Everything about that scene, the dialogue, and indeed Life is Strange altogether is awesome.
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Sep 22, 2017 22:22
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exquisite tea posted:Everything about that scene, the dialogue, and indeed Life is Strange altogether is awesome. Yeah, Life IS Strange is awesome BECAUSE of things like awkward teenage American girl dialogue written by Parisian men, not despite it.
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Glagha posted:To be fair that's treated as an awful, cringey thing to say in game too as I recall. I thought Rachel was dating Frank but Chloe had the hots for her? Either way you aren't about it being creepy. I haven't played the new game though just saw bits and pieces while the GF played it.
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Len posted:I thought Rachel was dating Frank but Chloe had the hots for her? Either way you aren't about it being creepy. I haven't played the new game though just saw bits and pieces while the GF played it. Rachel got mixed up with Frank shortly before she disappeared, their relationship appears to have been more than friendly but it's unclear as to if Rachel was just using him for drugs, Chloe didn't know about it until they search Frank's van in Episode 3 and becomes incredibly jealous when she finds out. Chloe and Rachel knew each other for three years prior to Max's return to Arcadia Bay and it was strongly suggested although never outright stated that they were involved romantically, the extent of which I suppose will be determined by this prequel. I've wasted all my brainpower remembering insignificant minutae about this stupid game.
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mysterious frankie posted:Yeah, Life IS Strange is awesome BECAUSE of things like awkward teenage American girl dialogue written by Parisian men, not despite it. Here's the thing: Life is Strange isn't that far off As someone who until recently worked at a movie theater in Seattle I can tell you that northeastern teenage white girls say hella constantly
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Blockhouse posted:Here's the thing: Life is Strange isn't that far off Fixed that for you
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Bogart posted:
I....think I actually kind of like that if it's a callback to the gimmicks of 50s and 60s horror movies. Like giving you a puke bag or having medics in attendance and all that fun schlock they used to advertise their cheap lovely films. That's probably giving Outlast too much credit though.
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This is the company that started a Kickstarter for adult diapers because Outlast 2 was going to be that loving scary. And free is a good price for Outlast 1.
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DeathChicken posted:I seem to remember something like that happening in the Tomb Raider reboot. You follow it up by getting a grenade launcher and killing a lot of people Tomb Raider 2013 was 3 parts snuff film where Lara has to be brutalized throughout the entire plot and somehow not get rabies, lock jaw or who knows what kinds of diseases were in the poo poo-filled, rusty metal infested brown water that she dragged her constantly impaled torso through before climbing up a frozen mountaintop; and one part perfect hair simulator that kept looking beautiful despite how she hasn't bathed in like weeks. Like there are so many death scenes in that game that make me worry there was a really creepy programmer that kept a lot that were too gross for focus groups and probably wouldn't fly even in an actual horror game.
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Crabtree posted:Tomb Raider 2013 was 3 parts snuff film where Lara has to be brutalized throughout the entire plot and somehow not get rabies, lock jaw or who knows what kinds of diseases were in the poo poo-filled, rusty metal infested brown water that she dragged her constantly impaled torso through before climbing up a frozen mountaintop; and one part perfect hair simulator that kept looking beautiful despite how she hasn't bathed in like weeks. To me, it felt like the ultimate problem with the game was that they couldn't pitch the story as a pulpy, fun adventure story (even if it would probably suit the material better) because the public would just dismiss it as a pale retread of Uncharted with Lara Croft, so they had to go the gritty route, which had its share of problems.
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TR 2013 could have used a T-Rex.
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The things they said about making Lara someone the player wanted to protect so she like, had some baby fat and was put in vulnerable situations. Which is maybe a pretty unpleasant and exploitative thing to do.
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The torture porn and survival stuff in TR2013 is nearly all in the first couple of hours, which made me think someone in the dev team had the sense to put the brakes on things and transition to a slightly lighter action shooter. Though there is the scene where Lara cauterizes her gaping chest wound with a white-hot arrowhead long after sepsis should have more or less dissolved her.
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Marshal Radisic posted:Didn't Crystal Dynamics mention something about how they took a lot of inspiration from The Descent for TR 2013? I do remember there also being one direct visual callback to Apocalypse Now around the last quarter of the game as well. The sad thing is, there already is a new uncharted game that basically is an unofficial Lara Croft game. Bogart posted:The things they said about making Lara someone the player wanted to protect so she like, had some baby fat and was put in vulnerable situations. Which is maybe a pretty unpleasant and exploitative thing to do. I actually felt bad about continuing the game because, c'mon game, could you please stop making GBS threads on Lara for a second here? Oxxidation posted:The torture porn and survival stuff in TR2013 is nearly all in the first couple of hours, which made me think someone in the dev team had the sense to put the brakes on things and transition to a slightly lighter action shooter. I don't know if its mostly front ended, at least for the survival stuff. Girl can somehow turn human bones and 60 year old pieces of metal and make a perfectly functioning ghetto grenade launcher and modern HK417 as well as somehow smelt a steel Compound bow.
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Crabtree posted:I don't know if its mostly front ended, at least for the survival stuff. Girl can somehow turn human bones and 60 year old pieces of metal and make a perfectly functioning ghetto grenade launcher and modern HK417 as well as somehow smelt a steel Compound bow. I meant more in terms of the scenes where she hunted for food and took shelter from the elements, etc. After the shooting starts Lara is immune to temperatures and subsists solely on the deathcries of angry men.
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My cousin wrote TR 2013, and she was going for drawing out Lara's story development. There was some stuff from previous writers that unfortunately stayed, like the sexual assault/first kill, so they intended to try and make it a sort of corner that Lara turns. quote:What the writing team didn’t foresee was that Lara’s first kill would cause controversy long before Tomb Raider’s release. The scene, in which Lara murders in self-defence after being cornered by a predatory scavenger, was interpreted as an attempted rape by both viewers of an early trailer and a producer on the project.
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The_Doctor posted:My cousin wrote TR 2013, and she was going for drawing out Lara's story development. There was some stuff from previous writers that unfortunately stayed, like the sexual assault/first kill, so they intended to try and make it a sort of corner that Lara turns. You really have to be stretching to pretend that scene isn't deliberately coded as an assault scene. You can blame the modelers and cutscene directors if you want but that is exactly what that scene is.
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I remember some interview when TR 2013 first came out that defended the rape stuff as being necessary to the story since it was unavoidable part of being human. Having to piss and poo poo is also a unavoidable part of being human, but the game developers seem to have been fine with leaving out the part where Lara has to pop a squat half way through the game.
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Vakal posted:I remember some interview when TR 2013 first came out that defended the rape stuff as being necessary to the story since it was unavoidable part of being human. Until David Cage has a go at Tomb Raider. Then by god, Lara will shower and go the the bathroom consistently! So with PARTY HARD 2 coming out possibly soon, will we enter into a retro 1980s slasher sub genre soon? I kind of want a Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 of horror games where its still a survival horror, but really campy and intentionally cheesy as it tries to horrifically murder you.
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That basically sounds like Lakeview Cabin or maybe Slayaway Camp.
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discworld is all I read posted:That basically sounds like Lakeview Cabin or maybe Slayaway Camp. Mostly, I just want something referenced other than Friday the 13. Because its got its own cool game so let me be the other 80s slasher films. Hell, maybe even a survivor that just can't catch a loving break and every job you take or place you move to is another goddamn horror film. I also specifically want Chainsaw Massacre 2 levels of camp and stupid because I'm desperate for an Evil Dead style game again. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Crabtree posted:So with PARTY HARD 2 coming out possibly soon, will we enter into a retro 1980s slasher sub genre soon? I kind of want a Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 of horror games where its still a survival horror, but really campy and intentionally cheesy as it tries to horrifically murder you. ILLBLEED already exists though
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I keep forgetting there's a new Call of Cthulhu game coming out at some point soonish. I'll see the trailer and then instantly forget it exists, like some sort of object permanence experiment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tENZajVJoI I liked Dark Corners of the Earth, but this just looks like the most clichéd bland Lovecraft gubbins. Gothic house, hooded cultists, etc.
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Bogart posted:The things they said about making Lara someone the player wanted to protect so she like, had some baby fat and was put in vulnerable situations. Which is maybe a pretty unpleasant and exploitative thing to do. That's incredibly dumb. You already want to protect her because she is the player avatar, playing up the but she is just a little giiiiirl angle is totally redundant. You kind of lose the "she is so helpless and vulnerable" when she guns down her sixtieth mercenary
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Crabtree posted:Mostly, I just want something referenced other than Friday the 13. Because its got its own cool game so let me be the other 80s slasher films. Hell, maybe even a survivor that just can't catch a loving break and every job you take or place you move to is another goddamn horror film. You might like Dusk which is releasing in October. It's not survival horror but it's horror-themed (hell, the first enemy type is a masked chainsaw-wielding hillbilly), can be surprisingly creepy at times, and is fun as hell. They've released the first episode to people who preordered but I'm sure you could try it out through a bit of ingenuity. 
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ImpAtom posted:You really have to be stretching to pretend that scene isn't deliberately coded as an assault scene. You can blame the modelers and cutscene directors if you want but that is exactly what that scene is. I agree, it definately FEELS like it's an attempted rape scene. To the point where it seems odd that if you fail the QTEs the dude straight up murders Lara.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:That's incredibly dumb. You already want to protect her because she is the player avatar, playing up the but she is just a little giiiiirl angle is totally redundant. It's oddly dissonant with the tone of the next 9 hours of Tomb Raider as it becomes much lighter when the rest of the cast is reunited and Lara instantly transforms into a stone cold killer.
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Gobblecoque posted:You might like Dusk which is releasing in October. It's not survival horror but it's horror-themed (hell, the first enemy type is a masked chainsaw-wielding hillbilly), can be surprisingly creepy at times, and is fun as hell. They've released the first episode to people who preordered but I'm sure you could try it out through a bit of ingenuity. Huh, I never played the original Heritic before, neat. I also sort of want a game to steal the original Chainsaw Massacre's theme of Urban and Economic Decay as I think that's fair ground to hit with horror, specifically these days outside of I think Night in the Woods? Crabtree fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Fil5000 posted:I agree, it definately FEELS like it's an attempted rape scene. To the point where it seems odd that if you fail the QTEs the dude straight up murders Lara. Can you articulate why? Like, what would have been different about the scene to make it seem like the guy is in fact just trying to kill her? I don't remember reading it as particularly sexual but it would not surprise me if I'm just kinda blind to that.
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Irony.or.Death posted:Can you articulate why? Like, what would have been different about the scene to make it seem like the guy is in fact just trying to kill her? I don't remember reading it as particularly sexual but it would not surprise me if I'm just kinda blind to that. He rubs his hand across her face, smells her, and does the chin-grab you see in literally every piece of media when a predator is aggressively checking out a woman's face. If they didn't want to play up the creeper angle they could've just had him toss Lara with the other prisoners they had lined up and she breaks free when he's escorting her or something. I'd say the dialog speaks more than the body language and probably why they left it unsubtitled. He says (in Russia mind you) Lara smells like his sister and when Lara bites him he says something along the lines of "she was a bitch, too" before killing you. There is a jarring delineation in the game between the intro scenes, the part where you're sliding down the river, and the rest of the game. Both were used heavily in promotional material, both involve violent deaths, and they're both largely scripted areas while the rest of the game is like an arcade-y Arkham Asylum slash Metroid action game with your buddies back on the boat. al-azad fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Yeah, even if you don't know Russian (as I don't) there's stuff in his tone that comes across. Plus everything al-azad just said. I'm also prepared to concede that it might be I'm just so used to rape now being the standard way in fiction to raise the stakes, establish how evil the antagonist is and to create a purpose for the protagonist in the form of revenge.
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