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Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

OctoberCountry posted:

Alex and Austin would be great guests and I'd love to hear Matt interact with the living avatar of late stage capitalism that is Dan Ryckert

Matt (getting increasingly madder) SO YOU PUT HOT CHEESE IN VODKA!!!

Or, alternately since he's a fellow midwesterner he goes "Oh you thought egg whites were the shells and you got married in a taco bell? actually you have a very normal life."

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Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Phobophilia posted:

i know on woke dsa twitter its in vogue to make fun of the russian collusion thing but it is a scary thing to have a loose coalition of right wing governments colluding with each other to perpetuate their neoliberal ethnostates

and yes, this goes beyond just russia, it includes hungary, israel, turkey, india, phillipines

I mean, Russia definitely intended to gently caress with us and arguably succeeded. Just today there were reports that Russian hackers tried to gently caress with voter registration in 21 states.

There's a difference between acknowledging that and being like Carl Reiner and demanding that Hillary be installed as president overnight because of it though.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Rhesus Pieces posted:

I mean, Russia definitely intended to gently caress with us and arguably succeeded. Just today there were reports that Russian hackers tried to gently caress with voter registration in 21 states.

There's a difference between acknowledging that and being like Carl Reiner and demanding that Hillary be installed as president overnight because of it though.

Oh, definitely. It's the old Great Power game: loving with each other's business, system and image to boost yourself, far more late 1800s than a new Cold War. I haven't really seen lefties saying it's all a fantasy and doesn't bear checking, but making it the flagship of the Democratic reaction is really not a smart bet, to say the least.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Phobophilia posted:

i know on woke dsa twitter its in vogue to make fun of the russian collusion thing but it is a scary thing to have a loose coalition of right wing governments colluding with each other to perpetuate their neoliberal ethnostates

and yes, this goes beyond just russia, it includes hungary, israel, turkey, india, phillipines

Almost like the bad old days of the Cold War.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Rhesus Pieces posted:

I mean, Russia definitely intended to gently caress with us and arguably succeeded. Just today there were reports that Russian hackers tried to gently caress with voter registration in 21 states.

There's a difference between acknowledging that and being like Carl Reiner and demanding that Hillary be installed as president overnight because of it though.

Yea there is for sure something to look into there, it's just there's like a 95% chance it was just 'Russia knew Trump is a loving oaf and can be led around by the nose if you give him a fancy party and say how cool he is,' and not some secret espionage between Trump and Putin himself. Manafort and poo poo are filthy but in the same way that most anyone who's been in politics enough to be an election expert is.

We totally should check that out, but yea it's almost certainly gonna just end in 'powerful oligarch knew he could get what he wanted if a man who's life until being president was being a walking punchline and wanting to gently caress his daughter' which will likely piss off the crowd who expects Sessions to read a court order commanding him to swear in Hillary between sobs as Trump is dragged to the electric chair.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

OctoberCountry posted:

Alex and Austin would be great guests and I'd love to hear Matt interact with the living avatar of late stage capitalism that is Dan Ryckert
I would love to see them react to Dan talking about how much he loves Walmart

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
My take on the Russia thing is that Trump himself 100% had no idea because he's a drat idiot, but a useful one. There's enough smoke that something went down with Manafort, DJT, etc and that Russian botnets fed on our most brokebrained to make them think their insanity was totally normal.

But Trump himself coordinating with Putin in a massive operation? Nah. There's no way. It was all about sowing the seeds of chaos for Russia.

Edit whoops DJTJr not DJT

Spoeank fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Sep 23, 2017

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Might be kinda funny to hear a Chapo press Harmon on how his cartoon has all but called in the Pinkertons on animators trying to unionize but I imagine a conversation with a guy that thin-skinned would get to Matthew Walther levels pretty quick.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Spoeank posted:

My take on the Russia thing is that Trump himself 100% had no idea because he's a drat idiot, but a useful one. There's enough smoke that something went down with Manafort, DJT, etc and that Russian botnets fed on our most brokebrained to make them think their insanity was totally normal.

But Trump himself coordinating with Putin in a massive operation? Nah. There's no way. It was all about sowing the seeds of chaos for Russia.

yea it sounds like the investigation is shifting more to the people around Trump rather than him himself (though like any investigation like it I'm sure they'll find some barely connected thing to pin on him too). I mean it makes sense, like Chapo has joked about before I can't believe he'd be involved in conspiracy purely because he literally can't not talk about his big 'wins'. Guy would be opening the debates with 'folks, Crooked Hillary thinks she's got this in the bag but my boy Sergei is already deleting dems off the voter rolls in most states! That's how good a deal maker I am, all I had to do was promise him an NSA contract and he's on board!'

I can't even imagine it as some long con thing because we have like 30 years worth of recorded proof that he is genuinely one of the dumbest cocksuckers on earth.

Which, hell, this is the better possibility anyway. All the fun of a hilarious cloud of corruption and graft around Our Dumbest President's administration without the impeachment risk and then President Pence being actually able to do things.

SEX HAVER 40000
Aug 6, 2009

no doves fly here lol

Meme Emulator posted:

The man immediately pumps the brakes any time something funny might happen. I swear the only words out of his mouth are things like "Lets not do this!" "Lets not go there!" "Im not having this discussion" and so on.

lol out of context i woulda put a hundred bucks on this being about jw friedman

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
yeah, its not like putin was banking on trump outright selling us assets and weapons and secrets straight to the russian federation, or letting russian troops occupy alaska or new york

trump is the weapon to disrupt the us. install a retard king on the throne, allow his neoliberal vulture friends to pick off the carcass, giving putin room to maneuver and carry out his own neoliberal plunder

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Big Coffin Hunter posted:

Ok so I don't know who the guy in the robe was Amber ran into at the right wing protest, but I loving know exactly the type of person he is. A dude who is super into nordic and celtic magick who probabaly does rituals and sigils using nordic runes and attempts to troll chaos magick groups while yelling about how their traditions and bloodlines aren't pure and they know the true knowledge. They also probably try to argue why Robert Anton Wilson would totally be a pepe alt right guy

As you can tell, I'm totally normal and this is normal information and normal thoughts to have

Yeah, you're onto something here. The problem is, early on you really can't tell if they're just nerdy about European history, or something worse.

I got super into the pantheon as a teen, I wonder if anyone thought I was a nationalist? Context is usually missed in junior high.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

There's lots of lefty things you can do that make the system resilient against external meddling, the problem is that it involves a lot of state power and state power can't be trusted with the Republican party. So you're in this trap where to vaccinate the political system you need to enforce universal suffrage, and regulate media and campaign finance (remember how fair and equal time rules helped Corbyn?), but the moment the right wing takes that apparatus over we're even worse off than where we started. It's kinda like how Bernie's Medicare for All plan gives a lot of authority to the HHS Secretary, which makes sense in a vacuum, but it's a terrifying prospect when there's a bad actor running the department. There's also the pesky problem of the Constitution.

It's like, the US has dug itself into a hole where a big majority of the political class operates in bad faith and can't be trusted to have the public's best interest in mind, so you have a crippled state that can't be relied on as the nexus of political power, so the power belongs to billionaires instead. Republicans are, literally as I type this, working to ram through a dog of a healthcare bill no one likes because they're more afraid of their donors than their constituents.

Previously that problem has been solved by guillotines. I'd prefer to figure something else out here.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Russia stuff should be part of an all-encompassing right to vote campaign but elected Democrats spent the first half of 2016 telling us same day registration is bad and the second trying to peel off Republicans rather than excite the sleeping giant of leaners who don't vote.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Might be kinda funny to hear a Chapo press Harmon on how his cartoon has all but called in the Pinkertons on animators trying to unionize but I imagine a conversation with a guy that thin-skinned would get to Matthew Walther levels pretty quick.

Given the response of insiders being either "Caring about union labour matters as an animation person is such a tumblr thing, plz go actually work on your portfolio and watch yourself some Mike Rowe" or "Speculating or criticizing anything ever on animation studios no matter how legitimate it is will warrant you blacklsiting", I really can't think of anything else that would result on a backlash that would make any they've had so far seem mild.

pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!

SulphagneSocialist posted:

Previously that problem has been solved by guillotines. I'd prefer to figure something else out here.

I'd love to see them all set up on a webcam in a super-max penitentiary (hopefully one that was formerly owned by one of these scumfucks), so that any American citizen can log on and watch their former lawmakers rot in prison, in real-time.
There's no audio, no interaction of any sort, just a nice 60fps, 720p video output of rich douchebags finally getting the consequences they wrought.

That said, every single aspect of the guillotine screams "revolution", so much so that the very image is basically an 18th century French meme for the concept.

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS

Spoeank posted:

My take on the Russia thing is that Trump himself 100% had no idea because he's a drat idiot, but a useful one. There's enough smoke that something went down with Manafort, DJT, etc and that Russian botnets fed on our most brokebrained to make them think their insanity was totally normal.

But Trump himself coordinating with Putin in a massive operation? Nah. There's no way. It was all about sowing the seeds of chaos for Russia.

Edit whoops DJTJr not DJT

Paul Manafort was speaking to Russian billionaires about what they can do to help him get elected. Trump Junior and gang had a meeting to start such a process. Trump's lawyer was doing anything he could to get a Trump Tower in Moscow. Ivanka met with Putin in his own office. He begged Russia on live TV to find Hillary's e-mails. He fired Comey and bragged the next day to Russian diplomats that "the Russia thing is gone". The guy definitely knew they were helping in some way.

But it's not like lib hysteria to see something was clearly going down. Putin saw Trump as a great disruptor that would probably help kill the country from the inside, and if not for pure GOP incompetence he'd be right.. It's not like the US is going to start a war over some FB bots and FAKE NEWS. Worth a shot really.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

SulphagneSocialist posted:

.

Previously that problem has been solved by guillotines. I'd prefer to figure something else out here.

Hey man, if it works it works.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Finally got a chance to listen to this week's episode with Amber talking about all her interactions with the Proud Boys.


And then in this week's Cum Town she was leaving the apartment, "to get her dick wet."


Grats on the veneration, Amber

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Might be kinda funny to hear a Chapo press Harmon on how his cartoon has all but called in the Pinkertons on animators trying to unionize but I imagine a conversation with a guy that thin-skinned would get to Matthew Walther levels pretty quick.

that would own

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

pseudosavior posted:

I'd love to see them all set up on a webcam in a super-max penitentiary (hopefully one that was formerly owned by one of these scumfucks), so that any American citizen can log on and watch their former lawmakers rot in prison, in real-time.
There's no audio, no interaction of any sort, just a nice 60fps, 720p video output of rich douchebags finally getting the consequences they wrought.

That said, every single aspect of the guillotine screams "revolution", so much so that the very image is basically an 18th century French meme for the concept.

It's not that we wouldn't have a way to punish them, it's that to actually be able to punish them things have to get so bad first that the People's Razor will be the only acceptable punishment.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Spoeank posted:

Finally got a chance to listen to this week's episode with Amber talking about all her interactions with the Proud Boys.


And then in this week's Cum Town she was leaving the apartment, "to get her dick wet."


Grats on the veneration, Amber

Yeah, that poo poo was funny as hell, man. <in an extremely Felix voice>

I assume Amber's been on an episode of Cum Town?

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
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TV
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~Good Times~

SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

lol out of context i woulda put a hundred bucks on this being about jw friedman

*spends five minutes handwringing about how this isn't OUR language it's the language of the book*

*beeps the offensive word anyway*

*drops the European name for Gravediggaz's first album offhand*

I like J a lot, but he can be kind of a doof.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Boywhiz88 posted:

Yeah, that poo poo was funny as hell, man. <in an extremely Felix voice>

I assume Amber's been on an episode of Cum Town?

Amber lives in the apartment they record in so she's constantly in the background.

Also I backed up and tried to hear what she said. It sounded like getting her dick wet but I wasn't sure. Amber again proves herself to be the best dry boy.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/911666405094944769

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Thompsons posted:

Even outside of dumb gamer culture crap there's all kinds of stuff they could talk about with regards to how awful publishers are: the voice actors strike, microtransactions coming into singleplayer games, the WildTangent guy admitting to preying on high-functioning autistics as potential hires, crunch time, the lack of unions or job security, etc.

that all sounds awful tbqh

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
if any of the chapo hosts are reading this thread, please don't talk about video games on your podcast, or at all

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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little munchkin posted:

if any of the chapo hosts are reading this thread, please don't talk about video games on your podcast, or at all

Alternatively, please talk in excruciating detail how mario odyssey is ableist as there are no cripple people in New Donk City.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Sep 23, 2017

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

little munchkin posted:

if any of the chapo hosts are reading this thread, please don't talk about video games on your podcast, or at all

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
If you had told me that two of their best episodes were about MMA, I would have been incredulous. I think the games industry is worth looking at as an example of the worship of multi billion dollar companies, the abuse a worker will put themselves though, etc etc. It's deep capitalism. Not even touching the gaming community. Just the implications involved in making and selling video games in 2017.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

Also the fact that being a programmer or creative in the game industry is basically being a lifelong freelancer unless you get lucky enough to get high up

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

little munchkin posted:

if any of the chapo hosts are reading this thread, please don't talk about video games on your podcast, or at all

I bet Felix will fight you in real life now.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


https://twitter.com/spookperson/status/911724276318793728

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
We need more musical about real heroes, like Colonel Tye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tye

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012
edit:
nm

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Please excuse me while I just walk into the Ocean and disappear holy gently caress is Hamilton a loving cancer.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

MonsieurChoc posted:

We need more musical about real heroes, like Colonel Tye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tye
That or the Hatian revolution which Lin could have probably done since its about as obscure as Hamilton's life to the masses and plus he could have not made slavers black rappers.

That or make a musical on Marx

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.
[quote="“Boywhiz88”" post="“476693996”"]
If you had told me that two of their best episodes were about MMA, I would have been incredulous. I think the games industry is worth looking at as an example of the worship of multi billion dollar companies, the abuse a worker will put themselves though, etc etc. It’s deep capitalism. Not even touching the gaming community. Just the implications involved in making and selling video games in 2017.
[/quote]

what are the MMA eps?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

achillesforever6 posted:

That or the Hatian revolution which Lin could have probably done since its about as obscure as Hamilton's life to the masses and plus he could have not made slavers black rappers.

That or make a musical on Marx

Danny Glover's been trying to make a movie about Toussaint l'Ouverture for years.

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red19fire
May 26, 2010

CortezFantastic posted:

Paul Manafort was speaking to Russian billionaires about what they can do to help him get elected. Trump Junior and gang had a meeting to start such a process. Trump's lawyer was doing anything he could to get a Trump Tower in Moscow. Ivanka met with Putin in his own office. He begged Russia on live TV to find Hillary's e-mails. He fired Comey and bragged the next day to Russian diplomats that "the Russia thing is gone". The guy definitely knew they were helping in some way.

But it's not like lib hysteria to see something was clearly going down. Putin saw Trump as a great disruptor that would probably help kill the country from the inside, and if not for pure GOP incompetence he'd be right.. It's not like the US is going to start a war over some FB bots and FAKE NEWS. Worth a shot really.

There was a guest on the Intercept who said pretty much the same thing. Trump is solidly in the useful idiot domain, but probably leaning closer to the active agent side rather than innocent coincidence. Kislyak probably gave Trump a gold star sticker and told him it's only for Putin's secret bestest friends ever, and Trump can barely contain himself.

Also part of the piss tape dossier was a captured russian intel briefing that warned handlers Manafort was 'too dumb to be useful'. :lol:

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