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Operation Are We The Baddies? The Russians think they have the upper hand. Well, when you're down, you gotta fight dirty. Yooper, let me know if this stuff is doable/not-doable. Zack and Jack are gonna be working overtime on this one... 1. TRAFFIC JAM. We try to put as much commercial, fishing, tourist, whatever sea traffic in front of the Russian battlegroup. At best, the Russians are forced to slow/dodge, whatever. At worst, someone gets in a collision and has to limp home. We do this by pushing and pulling ships into the path of the Russian battlegroup. Push ships by getting Zack and his spook buddies to radio phony ice reports, sea mine contacts, false reports of bad weather, etc. Pull ships by radioing phony SOS reports to coordinates right in the path of the Russian fleet. Tell Greenpeace, Sea Shepherd, or whoever that the Russians are going to do a nuke test or something - and buy them plane tickets to the region and help them charter boats/floatplanes they can harass the Russians with. Get the CIA to bribe captains, shipping company dispatchers, etc to route their ships in front of the Russians. See if we can get a gusty captain willing to ram the Kirov on "accident..." 2. SCENIC ROUTE Use similar traffic to route as much civilian air traffic and possible right into the flight path of the Russians AND near our airbase. This will hassle the Russians. And it will help screen the escape of our transport planes. 3. HIRED GUNS Standing offer to any need a in the region double your regular rate. 48 hour contract. All expenses paid. See if we can get Blue Star, Canada Express, SMARF, the Sultan, etc on our side for this one. Bonus points if we can get someone with fuckoff long-ranged AAMs like To cats with Phoenixes. Any Iranian air mercs out there? 4. BIG BROTHER Get datalinks with the US forces in the area. I want AWACs, Global Hawks, Orions, Neptunes, U-2s, Growler, destroyers, subs, etc. feeding us as much info as we can handle. We need to be able to see what the Russians are up to. I also want as much jamming support as the the US can manage. I want the Russians to be having a very, very hard time using their radios or radar. Growlers, Prowlers, ship-based jammers, whatever. 5. FAKEOUT Use Zack's CIA contacts to hire or fake a Russian freighter (or better yet, a cruise ship). Have it broadcast a fake "under attack by submarine, am sinking" message. Bonus points if some "tourist" posts "video" of a "submarine periscope" on VKontakte from the boat in question and has it go viral. Send out multiple contacts to split up the battlegroup. If (AND ONLY IF) we can split the May away from the battlegroup's protection, we dash in, fire a Meteor and run like hell. Use this to draw the battlegroup and the May away from us. Or, if we want to be fancy, we can use it to draw the Russians right into the American wolfpack. Might even let the subs use their tube-launched decoys to complete the shenanigans are lure the Russians even deeper into the ambush. 6. BEAGLE PULL Charter airliners or other cargo birds to get our poo poo out faster. Use FedEx Tactical, Canada Express, whoever. 7. DECOY DUCK Send the Dunkirkers off down south of the island. Don't be obvious decoys, but "accidentally" get the Russians' attention. We want to make it look like they have the "package."
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Notes regarding that Udaloy II: 1)Its the upgraded version of the OG Udaloy, with a Blow Capitalist Ships Up function added to the slightly downgraded Blow Capitalist Subs Up function. 2)it replaces the 8 SS-N-14 Silex ASW launchers with 8 SS-N-22 Sunburn shipfucker launchers with 130 NM range. The ASW job is switched to Starfish missiles it can launch out of its quad torpedo tubes. This drops the range to 22 NM instead of 30 NM on the Silex, but thats still plenty of range to gently caress up Capitalist Submarines one detects trying to sneak into torpedo range. 3)As far as SAMs goes, it actually does not pose a significant obstacle to our primary objective of murdering Mays. The max range on what it has is only 9 NM, and a May is unlikely to be on top of it since the Udaloy has helos for its own aerial ASW. 3a)it does, however, have a Lot Of Short Range SAMs. 64 SA-N-9s in the VLS and 64 SA-N-11s from its two Tunguska-On-A-Bote Kashtan systems. I think that is quite sufficient to prevent us from sinking the thing ourselves. Doubly so since we still have to worry about giving Cobbie CAS back on St. Lawrence. 4)In Advance Of The Battlegroup can mean a lot of different things. 10 NM in front of the Kirov so it can still drop Starfishes on nearby contacts? 30 NM to maximize the towed sonar sweep of the TF? 100 NM to try and hunt subs on its own with its helos helping out? 5) it has notable radars to find us with. 160 NM range. Conclusion: The Udaloy is not a direct threat to our primary objective of killing Mays. Trying to kill it ourselves appears impossible without abandoning our other primary objective of providing CAS to Cobbie in aid of actually getting the nuke off the island. Suggest we just plan on having its radar seeing us as well as the ones from the Mainstays. Also, a Yooper Question Sending the Dutch to the south seems a bad idea. Can't the Dutch escape through the Northwest Passage and all the Canadian Waters therein? Surely the risk of maybe getting frozen in in Canada is a lot better than taking a gamble that a Kirov with associated survelliance planes can't find them. Nick Esasky fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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god help us all, our plan is to hope that the russians won't just blow up civilian airliners
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Or, at the very least, hope if they're smoking civilian airlines they'll be too busy to shoot at us. Does Malaysian Airlines fly to Anchorage, and do we have any contacts with air traffic control there?
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The Udaloy radar range hardly matters because the Mays have air search radar rated at 280km too. Even if that's wildly exaggerated it's still going to be longer than our missile range. If we're in range to shoot at a May, we're in detection range for a long time.
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Reiterpallasch posted:god help us all, our plan is to hope that the russians won't just blow up civilian airliners Honestly, the Russians shooting down some civilian airliners isn't the worst thing in the world. For us, at least. For the people on the airliner it's obviously very bad. But for us, it's a nice distraction and freaks the Russians the gently caress out. If nothing else we get to look like the good guys on international news.
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This civilian airliner talk reminded me of something. Back when MH17 was shot down, one of the early Russian/rebel claims was that the Ukrainian air force was using civilian airliners for cover, by flying in close formation right behind and below them, effectively hiding in their shadow. This seems like a perfect trick for us reckless and amoral mercenaries. Can we use this trick to sneak up on some Russians? Is this even possible?
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actually, theres' a thing i've noticed about the Opfor: They actually don't have NCTR capabilities on anything but Su-35s/PAKs. Not even that fatass Mainstay/the guranteed Foxhounds have the ability to tell precisely what planes we are at significant range, let alone the botes/ground based radars. Thus, its not actually guranteed that they'll be able to ID us unless the Su-35s are actually up and about and flipping their radars on instead of letting the Mainstays spot for them. Therefore, i have an idea. @Yooper: Is there any possibility of managing to arrange Unannounced Delays on any commercial flights flying through the AOO? So that, say, our fighters take off, fly SE, then take the theoretical place where those commercial flights would be? Anything that lets us get closer to the Russians before they smell rats would be of value. Nick Esasky fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Sep 21, 2017 |
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Anta posted:. . . using civilian airliners for cover, by flying in close formation right behind and below them, effectively hiding in their shadow. Radar shadow trick might be possible, except there are multiple radar sites to consider (multiple IL-38N May's, two A-50U Mainstays, and Ugolny Kopi). Not a whole lot of 'shadow' to hide in, if you consider the varying 'vectors'; still, may be doable, if we had more information on the fleet deployment? Nick Esasky posted:Therefore, i have an idea. @Yooper: Is there any possibility of managing to arrange Unannounced Delays on any commercial flights flying through the AOO? Let's see what he says, however, aren't commercial flights tracked via transponder? There's no 'announcing' your flight, it just shows up on your screen with the transponder code. And no, I don't think we can bribe a commercial flight to turn off their transponder, as that makes it a bogey in this hot zone and more or less means a missile up the engine nacelle.
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We could fake a transponder, maybe. That might be within our capabilities.
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Crazycryodude posted:Can we finally do some warcrimes? So, honest, genuine question; what is this obsession that some of the Goons have with 'doing' war crimes? Is it just fantasy, wish fulfillment? Something to fanboy rally around? I'm trying to understand this desire to use the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice as a FU checklist?
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CourValant posted:So, honest, genuine question; what is this obsession that some of the Goons have with 'doing' war crimes? Because it's not real and being comically evil just to see how the scenario reacts is fun.
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Seriously though Yooper, can we get any access to sea mines, air dropped or otherwise? What about regular mines? Also, don't forget that a bunch of retarded civilians are humming around Alaska so they can fight Russia and get slaughtered, so it's safe to assume that the Russians will be extra cautious in regard to everything entering the region, civilian or no.
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gonna own insanely hard when the sea mines the anti-warcrimes group is agitating for gets carried into a hospital ship
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Proposal: Borderline Competence This works on the assumption that the CIA, US Armed Forces, and at least minority elements of government are siding with Halsey and don't want to see US territory lost. 1. Get the CIA to work signals and every identified Russian intel source with information that the president isn't in control. Drop strong hints that Halsey is working with either the active support or tacit approval of key military and political figures, find some nationalist firebrand senators to give some fire and brimstone speeches to back it up. Maybe even give the president a bad flu to put him on bed rest for a few days. Also drop to allied sources that the Russians are monitoring that the Goons have recovered some sort of patchouli flavored nuke, and then send some internal traffic that the US intends to use this story to cover for the use of tactical nuclear weapons in defense of their country. Strongly hint that the CIA has been in possession of K-219's nuke since the cold war, and are ready to use it with plausible deniability. Why: We want to raise the stakes and make the Russians more likely to conclude it isn't worth it. This also provides the ground work for below directives. 2. Use same intel channels to strongly suggest the CIA, or at least influential elements within the CIA, have purchased the services of Hired Goons (Iran-Contra style, maybe?), and intend to use us as a front man for stealth and other deniable assets to wage war on the Russian task force. Specify in the leaked contract that the Goons have to act like they're extracting found nuclear materials in order to cover for US tactical nuclear weapons use. 2a. Maybe it's time for a global prompt strike drill. Can we convince the air force it's time for some B-2's to take off and not land for 36 hours? 2b. Same thing with whatever assets are in Alaska. Maybe readiness demands a scramble drill, which just happens to result in every F-22 in Alaska being off the ground and not visible to Russian radar for the duration of this operation. Why: We need the Russians to see ghosts in every radar return, and an air armada behind every single aircraft. This will be key to selling a feint, which in turn will provoke the Russians into leaving their ASW craft uncovered. 3. Attempt to sell the Russians that Halsey has convinced the subs' officers to open the safes and activate their nuclear weapons. Why: This will provoke the Russians into spreading out their ASW assets, since close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and tactical nuclear weapons. As they overvalue the submarine threat, they'll leave their assets more open to air attack. 4. Get on the horn to the Canadians, the IAEA, and anyone we can convince in the EU to help us sell that RN nuclear (or even diesel) attack subs that Russia can't locate actually headed under the arctic the moment this whole thing started. Why: We want to expand the Russian search grid. Making them think they have to be worried about littorals and northern approaches will force them to stretch their air ASW assets even further from their battlegroup. Sketchy Operational Plan: A. Diversion: Send an absolutely not credible strike at the Udaloy, or possibly even the main task force. Loaded for anti-shipping strike, but very clearly not nearly enough to kill anything. Their mission is to fly confidently at the enemy's teeth, then run like hell when they swat us away. Why: Why on earth would Hired Goons do something so stupid, unless there's obviously 20 F-22's and 6 B-2's hiding just behind them so the US military can tell their president they sat on their thumbs while their country was invaded, just like good little boys and girls. It must have been mercenaries that sank every ship. Pay no attention to the air launched cruise missiles. B. Eye-gouge: Gripens, Falcons, Phantoms, Kfirs with AA loadout flying at the Il-38. Mission is to take out the radar, or at least make it run. Why: It's an obvious feint, the only credible threat Hired Goons poses on its own. But any turnip farmer can see these mercenary dogs are just a fig leaf, right tovarisch? C. I need help: Deploy the Doorman's like they are in support of a submarine force operating in the littorals around the island. Hopefully in a place where they can provide cover for the fleeing diversion package, and also the extraction of the device. I'm not coming up with anything. Thoughts? I got overenthusiastic, that much support from the CIA seems unlikely given our previous campaign choices. I'm writing a more realistic plan. Centurium fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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I give it about an 80% chance of scaring the Russians into starting a nuclear war. Obviously, I'm incredibly in favor.
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Mission Proposal: Bearfucker Summary- The nuke is the primary mission, shanking the IL-38 a nice bonus. Lay a diversion, extract the nuke, shank the may, run like gently caress. Diversion- Halsey has great access to naval assets? Wonderful. We need a fake submarine emergency- some of those emergency distress beacons, a bunch of noisemakers in the water. Raft full of smoke grenades. Cobbies exwife on an inflatable croc with a loudhailer. Something. We set up this kerfuffle inbetween the airbase the IL-38 is flying from and as close to the subs we need to protect as Halsey will allow, and far enough north of the Udaloy for it to not be in timely investigation range, but in it's likely path. At the same time it gets triggered, a bunch of encrypted traffic needs to happen like much attention is being paid by the navy, and the Doormans need to drop what they are doing and steam right for the "emergency". Have a bunch of the goons start whatsapping and facebooking about a sub collision. If we have any drones by hook or by crook, they should be sent to check it out. Extract the nuke- This is the paypacket, and the main focus. Both cargo aircraft go with heavy cover and a CAS sweep, load something on both aircraft when they land (provided they both get there) so the aircraft crews are unaware which has the bomb, loading time is time for the diversion event to get triggered. Shank the may- If/When the IL-38 and it's escorts present themselves to check out the US navy's latest ramming incident, Bearfucker/Assistance flight happens to have headed south and whoops aren't missiles a tricky thing, hope that doesn't cause an incident Run like gently caress- Everyone runs like gently caress as soon as the nuke is away/IL-38 is down, back to base, refuel if required then get the gently caress out of theatre. Flights/Botes- Caesium Cap- All the Phabulous Phantoms, amraams. Covers Cargo Cult all the way in and out. Prowler Posse- EA-6B, Harm loadout, fly with cobbies crew, provide ewar/sam hitter. Cobbies Crew- All Tornadoes, brimstone. AMX's with bombs, Mirage with bombs. Fly in advance of cargo cult, smack anything that concerns the cobbster, then fly back with the cargo cult. Smack anything coloured red. Cargo Cult- CN-235, C-130. Fly in together, leave together. Refuel/Eyes- Tankers, Atlantique and the Saab, follow cargo cult half way in, then hold and wait while monitoring the exit and looking for that Il-38. Guard- Both Kfirs, AAM, hopefully a very boring flight guarding Refuel/Eyes. Bearfucker/Assistance- Sticks with Refuel/Eyes until the distraction is triggered, they should get a top off on fuel just beforehand. All the Gripens, max meteors from range onto the IL-38/escorts then if assistance is required both Falcons close further with max amraams to finish up any survivors. Shoot and scoot the gently caress outta there. Doormans- Keep them safe- Should make like they are exfiltrating, a minute or two after the distraction should change course after a radioed request and steam for that point, turning away to run home as soon as the nuke is safely away.
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DesperateDan posted:Mission Proposal: Bearfucker This is a good plan. Low chance of starting a nuclear war, decent chance of success, no warcrimes. The HARM on the Prowler could possibly be replaced by the full jammer loadout though. Yooper: I just rewatched the last op and in case nobody's asked yet.. What do need to do to get hold of/lease/hire that missile carrying airliner? E: Or even buy or lease an an airliner of our own and modify it to carry a Meteor. PenguinSalsa fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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I mean, when we volunteered to poke the bear, the only thing that meant is 'We need to take down that IL-38 or at least give it a headache' not 'We have to get the Kirov killed'.
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I'm reviewing proposals. So far nothings' too wild. Though as Night mentioned, it's just kill the cover, not sink the ship. If the Kirov sinks, well, a little icing on the mercenary resume, but ideally we just make it turn around. More to come! I'm expecting a call from Jack as well. If it's relevant I'll be sure to post it.
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Yooper posted:I'm reviewing proposals. So far nothings' too wild. Though as Night mentioned, it's just kill the cover, not sink the ship. If the Kirov sinks, well, a little icing on the mercenary resume, but ideally we just make it turn around. Well thank Heavens for that!  Thinking about putting a mission plan together, and, waiting until I hear from Jack and Zack.
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I'll throw in with operation I, Icarus Goals:
Theory: A head-on engagement is suicide. We need to delay the Russians and ideally get them to split up and do something dumb. As myself and others have suggested, get the CIA to fake a breakdown of one of the USN submarines in the middle of nowhere in the relative east of where the subs actually are. Then we try to bait their air escorts out of position by being incredibly annoying and pray to the Meteor and AMRAAM gods that our missiles are better than theirs once we finish pissing them off. General Orders Jammers on for all involved unless noted otherwise. Aircraft-mounted radars off (except the S-100 and Atlantique) unless required for firing solution. Support flights from Canada Express should patrol between the Provideniya base and St. Lawrence. Specific aircraft assignments and ROE are left to their discretion. (If this plan actually wins I can draw up a map for this) Battlegroups: Daedalus Flotilla 3x Karel Doorman, 1x BR.1150 Atlantique (1x Exocet/2x Torpedo/sonobouys) Karel Doormans start over the supposed "wreck" (or as close to as possible). EMCON all on when entering the target area. Hold fire on AShMs unless all three have a simultaneous firing solution. NH90s may be deployed at the Dutch's discretion. Patrol the area of the "wreck" and act like they are protecting it. If the Russians don't fall for it, fire one salvo of missiles at the closest Russian surface warship and then fall back. If at least one Russian destroyer is sunk somehow, AShMs can switch to fire at will. The Atlantique should take up position over the "wreck" once the Doormans get there and start littering the area with passive and active sonobouys. Drop them wherever, hell throw out some garbage cans that occasionally make beeping noises I don't care. Make it looks like we're desperately looking for something. If the guys onboard manage to somehow find a use for their things what go boom, go for it, but targets of opportunity only, they may not pursue. Pasiphaë Flight 1x Tornado (9x Brimstone + Damocles), 2x AMX A.11 (2x GBU-32), 2x Kfir C.10 (2x SPICE 1000), 1x Mirage F.1CR (2x AS.30L); 1x C-130. Attack aircraft provide CAS for Cobbie as required. C-130 is in charge of getting the nuke (and Cobbie and friends) out. Knossos Flight 1x S-100B, 1x KC-135, 1x VC10.K4. Do the racetrack thing behind our lines. Ariadne Flight 3x JAS-39C Gripen (Max Meteor), 2x F-16DJ (Max AMRAAM), 3x F-4E (Max AMRAAM); 1x EA-6B Prowler (5x Jammer) Patrol the Russians' expected path. Engage in defense of Theseus flight, or if the May becomes exposed. Do not pursue within surface-to-air range of Russian naval assets unless no other option for engaging the May is available. Prowler should follow the general "center of mass" of the flight but stay away from the front line. The traitorous Phantom crew may proceed with their exfiltration plan if they so desire. MEAT approves of their taste in music and this absolves them of their sins. Theseus Flight 6x Tornado (Sea Eagles) Launch when the Russian fleet is spotted and HOLD FIRE on the Sea Eagles on launch. Pick any pair. Send them to maximum Sea Eagle engagement range or hostiles' maximum surface-to-air engagement range, whichever is greater, and abort without firing. If fired upon by ships, flee (permission is given to jettison stores if necessary for preservation of the airframe); if fired on by aircraft, attempt to drag them into Ariadne or (comedy option) HG's base SAM defenses. If the Russians do not take the bait, repeat twice. If after three times they still haven't chased the Tornadoes, send in all 6 and again abort without firing. If after that they STILL haven't chased, on #5, target the closest surface contact and empty the Sea Eagles into it. Maybe we'll get lucky and one will even hit the thing. If all Russian air escorts are destroyed and Sea Eagles remain unexpended, link up and salvo-fire at one of the Russian boats. Expenditure of Sea Eagles is not a prerequisite for successful completion of mission objectives. Theseus flight should prefer self-preservation over attempting to inflict damage. This is bait, not a suicide run. power crystals fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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guys, i'd really like to remind you all that Cobbie probably will still want CAS against Iceberg guys and thus sending all our ground attack birds off to poke bears for no apparent benefit is Bad. Also, i'd like to point our that the SAMs on that Kirov have ranges of 80 NM and 110 NM, and that our Sea Eagles only have a range of 60 NM. Simulating an attack on the TF seems a horrible, horrible idea, even if we presume that the Russian fighters will not also begin shooting at our Tornados if we get anywhere near that close.
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Hey I voted against bear poking but this crew wanted to poke a bear so I want to give them the greatest bear poking experience possible. Though the WVR fighters could probably be switched to air-to-ground loadouts without any real issue excepting a rapidly diminishing set of thematically appropriate names. I will wait and see tomorrow's update before I bother revising anything anyway. I'm also hoping that with the Udaloy sufficiently far in front we won't have to deal with the Kirov SAMs (at least at first) but we'll figure that out when we get there. The situation does call for creative, after all 
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power crystals posted:Hey I voted against bear poking but this crew wanted to poke a bear so I want to give them the greatest bear poking experience possible. Though the WVR fighters could probably be switched to air-to-ground loadouts without any real issue excepting a rapidly diminishing set of thematically appropriate names. I will wait and see tomorrow's update before I bother revising anything anyway. if you want creative i will kamikaze the ship
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Mycroft Holmes posted:if you want creative i will kamikaze the ship I am not writing Operation: Ten-Go 
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power crystals posted:Hey I voted against bear poking but this crew wanted to poke a bear so I want to give them the greatest bear poking experience possible. Though the WVR fighters could probably be switched to air-to-ground loadouts without any real issue excepting a rapidly diminishing set of thematically appropriate names. I will wait and see tomorrow's update before I bother revising anything anyway. I'd also like to point out that that Udaloy has 128 SAMs onboard to protect itself with, even if they don't have particularly long range. I am extremely doubtful that 14 Sea Eagles will do anything to it. To emphasize: The ONLY Russian thing that has to die are Mays. Trying to murk the Udaloy as well is just going to end in tears. Nick Esasky fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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Right, but I don't actually want to sink the Udaloy (well okay I WANT to but it's not a direct objective). The point is to piss off their air escorts so they come at our fighters and hopefully lose, letting us go swat the May at our leisure. Actually managing to sink a Russian ship somewhere is just a nice bonus.
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HereticMIND posted:So I've decided to start finalizing my "bug out and gently caress Russia as we leave" plan. Still open to suggestions on the finer points. Note that this is not an actual Operation Plan, but one to be attached to any future Operation that we deem necessary/reach a consensus that we need this Sub-Operation to be enacted concurrently. Considering the lack of feedback I got on this plan, I am submitting it in its current form as a formal sub-operation.
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 Our satellite coverage is spotty. Weather totally precludes any optical imaging as the Russians are still in fog/cloud cover. Fortunately they are radar hot. Take note of the helicopter contacts, it appears they are screening around the battlegroup. The IL-38's are inbound as we speak. Jack sent me a voicemail but all I could hear was thumping strip club music. I texted him for more info and he said he'll call once he's out of the strip club.
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HereticMIND posted:Considering the lack of feedback I got on this plan, I am submitting it in its current form as a formal sub-operation. why on earth do we need to blow up our hangers as we leave. how does that help us. work with me here, I'm failing to understand something.
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Some misguided notion of sabotage, but honestly they aren't going to be able to get the base running after we leave until way after we are gone anyways. Besides, wiring a bunch of poo poo on it is a pretty obvious indicator for those in the area that aren't in on this scheme that poo poo's about to go down in a displeasing manner. If you really wanted to be an rear end in a top hat to them anyways, leave out leftover food in the warmest places so they'll stink up the whole place.
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sebmojo posted:why on earth do we need to blow up our hangers as we leave. how does that help us. work with me here, I'm failing to understand something. Mostly to act as cover for our escaping personnel. Also to try and limit the Russians' options in terms of reinforcing/screening the IL-38 and/or Kirov.
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