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No, an SBCT isn't designed to tackle enemy armor, but that doesn't mean it can't. An SBCT can hold its own if it plays smart.
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Mustang posted:NTC doesn't make sense for SBCTs because you can't fight strykers like bradleys and Abrams, which is how the OC teams want you to fight. I came from an ABCT originally. I get a little irritated with how we use them here. The guys who came for the IBCT have no idea how to use them. They either completely ditch them at every opportunity or use them as tanks. there's no middle ground. Edit: ^^^ the Stryker is meant to either quickly go to key terrain and set up a defense or to act as a BDE level reserve.
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Sep 24, 2017 01:38
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I went to JRTC in a SBCT. This was in 2005 though. Things change apparently.
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Sep 24, 2017 01:39
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You know what doesn't change? How motherfucking gay the Army is
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milk milk lemonade posted:You know what doesn't change? How motherfucking gay the Army is So true, so true. Side note every time I say/remember something from the Army and then afterwards realize how long ago it was, it feels something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVLukeA8EdM
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Sep 24, 2017 01:51
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i think the army fluctuates in its stupidity. like making deployments not count for promotions and poo poo like that. but it's varying levels of stupid. like slamming your dick in a door vs forced sodomy.
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It's really irritating fighting NTC opfor because they engage you from twice your effective range with invisible miles lasers and no signature effects and your OC is like "sir you need to maneuver on the enemy!" while my Platoon hid behind some IV lines and my dismounts pushed out to ID where the tank is that took out one of my strykers. The only time direct fire engagements worked was when we were in defensive positions and had OPs with javs and AT4s observing obstacles. The jav miles is old and kind of lovely and unreliable though. There are coils of c wire left all over NTC, I picked that poo poo up and used it all the time, got quite a few opfor and OC vehicles stuck in my obstacles.
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Naked Bear posted:An SBCT can hold its own if it plays smart. lol
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Mustang posted:It's really irritating fighting NTC opfor because they engage you from twice your effective range with invisible miles lasers and no signature effects and your OC is like "sir you need to maneuver on the enemy!" while my Platoon hid behind some IV lines and my dismounts pushed out to ID where the tank is that took out one of my strykers. it wouldn't be any less irritating if they engaged you close enough to cross swords, tbh
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Sep 24, 2017 01:55
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Thanks for posting about how it's still lovely. Makes me feel good to not be in.
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Mustang posted:It's really irritating fighting NTC opfor because they engage you from twice your effective range with invisible miles lasers and no signature effects and your OC is like "sir you need to maneuver on the enemy!" while my Platoon hid behind some IV lines and my dismounts pushed out to ID where the tank is that took out one of my strykers. Yeah I agree. It's all the Miles game and it's completely unrealistic. Also, people get really trapped into the "well, doctrine and terrain says the enemy will do this, but based on my 50 times being here the OPFOR actually does this"
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Sep 24, 2017 02:32
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My ID card shows my sponsor's status as "RESDEC" even though my wife was on active duty when she passed. This may gently caress me out of certain benefits when I present my ID. "Sorry, you need to be the survivor of a soldier who died on active duty." Looks like I get to start digging for a copy of her orders and see if I can get a corrected ID.
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McNally posted:My ID card shows my sponsor's status as "RESDEC" even though my wife was on active duty when she passed. This may gently caress me out of certain benefits when I present my ID. Here we go again
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Here we go again Gonna try a different ID card office this time. Then again, maybe I should go back to Meade. Maybe they’ll try extra hard to avoid another IG complaint.
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Sep 24, 2017 03:43
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Well, that's the catch with everything Army. 
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Mustang posted:Just got my phone back, my Platoon and company did really good but BN and BDE were pretty bad. It was supposed to take 3 days. The LFX timeline changed over a year ago. It is supposed to be "slow" for platoons since the point is to have time to do proper rehearsals and orders.
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mlmp08 posted:I knew an S4 1LT non-S4 by MOS guy who was both. As we were flying strat air out for deployment, I found him outside with no cover, chainsmoking and talking at a wall. If by "non-S4" you mean non-logistics, in S4s in many battalions the MOS is supposed to be what the main MOS of that battalion (IN, AR, FA).
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Sep 24, 2017 15:55
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Mustang posted:It's really irritating fighting NTC opfor because they engage you from twice your effective range with invisible miles lasers and no signature effects and your OC is like "sir you need to maneuver on the enemy!" while my Platoon hid behind some IV lines and my dismounts pushed out to ID where the tank is that took out one of my strykers. They have that range because they are replicating a near-peer. It is not supposed to be fair.
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3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:If by "non-S4" you mean non-logistics, in S4s in many battalions the MOS is supposed to be what the main MOS of that battalion (IN, AR, FA). I mean we were authorized a loggie by mtoe, had none, so someone else took the role. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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I know they're replicating a near peer and real weapons, a force an ABCT is much better equipped to deal with. Plus they don't shoot invisible miles lasers with no signature effects. And for LFX orders process, they pushed the BN order at like 2330, I was woken up at 0030 for collaborative planning with the CO, briefed the order at like 0330, did rehearsals and then did some stupid poo poo for the rest of the day until we LDed that night. Not sure why BDE sat on their order so long. It took 2 days for us to move 10 km. It was cool seeing HIMARS, 120mm mortars, and apaches and a 10s blow stuff up though
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3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:It was supposed to take 3 days. The LFX timeline changed over a year ago. It is supposed to be "slow" for platoons since the point is to have time to do proper rehearsals and orders. I think when I was a PL, we had a day for planning and the CAR. Then we did a day/night blank and transitioned to live day/night. This last rotation we did in July they did a day of MDMP, day of Troop level TLPs, then do the scenario in a day and night now. Our TOC jumped onto the range during the LFX for some reason. We jumped so much that our TOC did not function correctly.
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Mustang posted:I know they're replicating a near peer and real weapons, a force an ABCT is much better equipped to deal with. Plus they don't shoot invisible miles lasers with no signature effects. Well there are two different enemy sets depending on if there is an SBCT or ABCT. WRT to signatures, well ideally your OCs would call their TAFF or use their tablets to see what was shooting at you and at least give you a general direction. The BCT staff sat on the order for so long because they probably haven't had enough reps at it plus they had to jump a lot too.
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Ashmole posted:I think when I was a PL, we had a day for planning and the CAR. Then we did a day/night blank and transitioned to live day/night. TOC probably jumped so they would have comms. They had to jump or they would be destroyed by enemy artillery. It's a training objective to jump a lot.
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Hey, is the thread title a quote from an actual post in this thread? I've been looking for like an hour and I can't find it (mobile, so can't use forums search)
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new friend from school posted:Hey, is the thread title a quote from an actual post in this thread? I've been looking for like an hour and I can't find it (mobile, so can't use forums search) Yes. It was a post I made about a friend of mine who got out but was still on the roster for his squad. When a new SL showed up he got a text about coming to the company. And the thread title was his answer.
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3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:TOC probably jumped so they would have comms. They had to jump or they would be destroyed by enemy artillery. It's a training objective to jump a lot. It wasn't mandatory yet. I'm tracking that this recent rotation made it mandatory to jump every 24 hours because of CoS guidance. We did it because we could I guess. We has retrans reaching past alpha pass - every other bn stayed put. Edit: also, are you an OC now?
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Well it's still not technically mandatory, it's just reportable if you don't. It's just always been more deadly to stay in one place for a long time.
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Units TOCs did some weird poo poo this rotation, like jumping ahead of scouts which are supposed to be the forward line of troops. Or the CTCP deciding that right behind the scouts was the best place to set up. Or retrans strykers driving up on our OPs and being like "the BN XO told us to come here". It was complete chaos
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Mustang posted:Units TOCs did some weird poo poo this rotation, like jumping ahead of scouts which are supposed to be the forward line of troops. Or the CTCP deciding that right behind the scouts was the best place to set up. Or retrans strykers driving up on our OPs and being like "the BN XO told us to come here". Dude, your brigade is ate the gently caress up.
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Mustang posted:Units TOCs did some weird poo poo this rotation, like jumping ahead of scouts which are supposed to be the forward line of troops. Or the CTCP deciding that right behind the scouts was the best place to set up. Or retrans strykers driving up on our OPs and being like "the BN XO told us to come here". "appear where you are not expected." - Sun Tzu
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Hey, the US is so effective cause our command structure and movements are confusing as gently caress!!! Let me read this quote from a German spy in WW2: - 1LT Dipshit
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Mustang, that still sounds smarter than what units at NTC were doing a year or two ago: setting up their TOCs and HHCs in FOB-style circles then wondering what the gently caress happened when a UAS spotted them and they died instantly to an artillery strike.
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The TOC jumping ahead of us and the ctcp staging right behind us both happened within the first 2 days and didn't happen again, so at least they learned from it. So called "enablers" are hot garbage though. Zero tactical sense, lovely field craft, and complete lack of initiative. They will literally sit in the open during direct fire engagements until you tell them to find cover.
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It's an old meme but if I have time this week I'm gonna try to splice the 3 frames of the comic from Mustang's av into the tv in the clip below. "...you can pinpoint the exact second his spirit breaks." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tFDsL_mwBY
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tastefully arranged labia posted:It's an old meme but if I have time this week I'm gonna try to splice the 3 frames of the comic from Mustang's av into the tv in the clip below. "...you can pinpoint the exact second his spirit breaks." Would it be easier to just make a gif of that moment on frinkiac?
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mlmp08 posted:Mustang, that still sounds smarter than what units at NTC were doing a year or two ago: setting up their TOCs and HHCs in FOB-style circles then wondering what the gently caress happened when a UAS spotted them and they died instantly to an artillery strike. Yeah, circling the wagons doesn't really work when the enemy has air support and artillery. I ran into some guys from my company and they had some serious thousand yard stares going on. Didn't have the heart to tell them how I've spent my time down here.
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At least your unit brought a Public Affairs section.
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I don't know how a BDE fails to have a plan for reverse RSOI. timelines constantly changing, jumping out of your rear end to get poo poo done only to find out it was pushed to the right while something different is pushed to the left I also don't know what the deal with the mad rush is since we will have days doing absolutely nothing at this rate
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Mustang posted:I also don't know what the deal with the mad rush is since we will have days doing absolutely nothing at this rate Yeah, sure
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Hurry up and wait "Were already waiting sir!" WAIT HARDER!
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