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It's interesting that the LNP has learnt from the US GOP and not ignore certain minority groups. I don't think any other media or ALP comms have even bothered to do Mandarin PR but the LNP is all over Chinese social media and the last the ALP were there was with Kevin Rudd. Now the papers are getting CN editions and where is anyone else to counter? It's a massive blind spot.
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MikeJF posted:In theory Australia is actually a fantastic place for a space industry. We're rich and have a high-tech, highly educated base along with mainland territories within 11 degrees of the equator, which is a huge launch advantage. A Cape York spaceport could be extremely competitive. If we were going to get pork some kind of engineering/mission planning stuff could happen in SA but if you want to get serious about grabbing part of the global launch market then launching from Woomera where anything would have to go overland to Orbit is a crazy idea.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:29
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Anidav posted:It's interesting that the LNP has learnt from the US GOP and not ignore certain minority groups.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:36
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I've seen a bunch of "No" bollocks during this shemozzle trying to scare me with incest and polygamy. Now, I know incest is a bad thing, but I'm not sure why polygamy is supposed to be scary - is it a dog whistle or something? Is there something political here I'm being dumb about? Or is just FEAR of the OTHER?
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Sep 25, 2017 06:37
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Has Media watch ever looked into what claims are being made on Chinese social media in particular? Re: Voting ALP will give your precious Chinese visa to Muslims/Same Sex marriage will lead to your Chinese boys wearing dresses? I'd imagine it's LNP astroturfing going unchecked because all the attention is on Facebook in Western societies but not what parties can get away with on minority specific social media.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:44
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Elissimpark posted:I've seen a bunch of "No" bollocks during this shemozzle trying to scare me with incest and polygamy. That, and also something about sluts, probably.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:48
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Laserface posted:On the other hand, sending an uninvited text message is largely being labelled as an invasion of privacy and as someone who values privacy beyond 'got nothing to hide then nothing to worry about' I found it a little annoying, especially considering that there is probably a lot of cross-over between Privacy advocates and SSM advocates. It shouldnt be lost on them how this comes across to the public. I feel like the outrage around this is a confected pile of poo poo. We live in an age where we receive an endless stream of unsolicited telemarketer calls. Where people receive hundreds of spam emails each week. We walk our side and are bombarded by inescapable advertising messages plastered across buildings, busses and the landscape telling us what to do and what to buy. Facebook and Google collect your data, and use algorithms to predict what they can sell you before you're even aware yourself. They know who you interact with, where you visit, what you like to do, and use this information to target advertising at you. But no, this SMS message has gone one step too far. What an invasion of privacy. How dare people be told what to do? I'm not a homopobe, just deeply concerned about my SMS messages. Edit - gently caress, can't type on my phone and autocorrect is owning me Mad Katter fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Sep 25, 2017 06:57
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Mad Katter posted:We live in an age where we receive an endless stream of unsolicited telemarketer calls. Where people receive hundreds of spam emails each week. We walk our side and are bombarded by inescapable advertising messages plastered across buildings, busses and the landscape telling us what to do and what to buy. Facebook and Google collect your data, and use algorithms to predict what they can sell you before you're even aware yourself. They know who you interact with, where you visit, what you like to do, and use this information to target advertising at you.
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Sep 25, 2017 06:59
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I cant wait for an Australian Space Station.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:09
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Push-polling/robocalls call your private home phone number and push you to answer questions over minutes, whereas a random number generator sent you a text you can safely ignore One is a lot worse than the other, but what's getting the most coverage in the media?
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Sep 25, 2017 07:26
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Synthbuttrange posted:I cant wait for an Australian Space Station.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:38
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G-Spot Run posted:I reckon they will absolutely fund it properly because interplanetary colonisation is the only solution to climate change the wealthy can stomach. Unironically this.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:42
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The LNP will fund the space program so they can get Gina to Mars to start mining argent energy.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:45
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Australian Space Program cancelled when it is discovered rockets can't run on coal.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:47
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Australian Space Program cancelled when it is discovered rockets can't run on coal. I feel like this could be tomorrow's Pope comic.
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Sep 25, 2017 07:50
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ISS BarnseyFarnsey, A Hancock Project
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Sep 25, 2017 07:57
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Australian Space Program cancelled when it is discovered rockets can't run on coal. Not with that attitude.
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Sep 25, 2017 08:20
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quote:While Mr Turnbull has not pulled the trigger on export controls, he has made it clear to energy companies that the Federal Government is willing to do so. What is core liberal ideology of the free market precious? Oh your doing rubbish in the polls and would do anything to stay in power. I see. I wish the Liberals would just drop the pretence of standing for anything and just change their name to "not labah" as that is the only policy that they seem to stick through.
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Sep 25, 2017 08:21
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I'm currently at IAC2017 and from the few people I have talked to it would seem an Australian space program has been in the works for awhile, but most people were taken off guard by the announcement this morning. In general everyone seems pretty excited about it, but there have been a lot of comments and laughs about this actually resulting in them getting funding for things.
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Sep 25, 2017 08:25
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sure you were, dear
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Sep 25, 2017 08:26
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Quick, someone send her an unsolicited text telling her not to drink bleach
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Sep 25, 2017 08:34
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Anidav posted:Has Media watch ever looked into what claims are being made on Chinese social media in particular? Don't think so, I can't recall anything on Media Watch involving anything non-English. This aspect, non-English media, is a massive blindspot even to me recently but it's clearly the place where there is the least influence because it is such a blindspot and things need to change in a hurry.
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Sep 25, 2017 08:48
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Lid posted:Don't think so, I can't recall anything on Media Watch involving anything non-English. This aspect, non-English media, is a massive blindspot even to me recently but it's clearly the place where there is the least influence because it is such a blindspot and things need to change in a hurry. Not looking forward to the future 20yr LNP rule due to a shy tory effect amoung Multi Gen Chinese Australians.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:07
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Is there any actual evidence for a Shy Tory / Bradley Effect here?
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Sep 25, 2017 09:10
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Pretty sure Labor lost a couple of seats in NSW and Victoria due to LNP astroturfing a safe schools campaign on weibo. And these seats had a high Chinese population and were sleeper flips and no one expected them but I can't recall which seats they were but they basically helped Turnbull forming majority. E: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/harnessing-chinese-social-media-to-win-chisholm-20160708-gq1rdq.html Here's one. Anidav fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Sep 25, 2017 09:13
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Anidav posted:Pretty sure Labor lost a couple of seats in NSW and Victoria due to LNP astroturfing a safe schools campaign on weibo. And these seats had a high Chinese population and were sleeper flips and no one expected them but I can't recall which seats they were but they basically helped Turnbull forming majority. Was the Melbourne one Chisholm? I know Anna Burke had it for a long time, and that it's centered around Box Hill which has as large Asian population.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:16
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there are goons that post itt who work in media, right? what can we do to combat this? i can find you as many charming left-wing mandarin-fluent chinese-australians as you require
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Sep 25, 2017 09:21
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Shy Tories / Bradley Voters are people who hide their view from pollsters because they feel it is unacceptable. It's not the same thing as this.Schlesische posted:Was the Melbourne one Chisholm? I know Anna Burke had it for a long time, and that it's centered around Box Hill which has as large Asian population. Yeah, it was Chisholm.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:22
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Yeah the LNP basically ran uncontested on Wechat and Weibo in Chisholm and they saw the results and have been campaigning on these platforms passively ever since. Polling is also a concern because all polling companies require the respondent to speak English to participate and if they don't we were trained to kill the call. So basically polls aren't polling the opinions of a minority which is currently being astroturfed uncontested by the LNP making me think that the next election will be closer than predicted because the LNP is gonna take the Chisholm strategy nationwide and probably successfully defend or gain some seats as a result.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:23
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Shy Tories / Bradley Voters are people who hide their view from pollsters because they feel it is unacceptable. It's not the same thing as this. Actually pollsters hide from them because they don't speak English well enough to be polled and polling companies are too lazy to hire bilingual and implement multi language approaches.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:24
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like if it's just crowdfunding a weekly chinese-language pamphlet distributed around cabramatta that does a showcase of local stuff with delightful columnists who occasionally slip in insidious left-wing ideas, it shouldn't actually be that hard
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Sep 25, 2017 09:25
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maybe i should join the greens and figure out why nobody is doing this stuff
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Sep 25, 2017 09:26
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So it's like a shy....pollster effect?
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Sep 25, 2017 09:26
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as far as funding something like this goes, our content can be populated entirely by desperate uni students / recent grads, if you pay those poor souls $30 for five hours' work they wash your feet with their tears (source: am one of those)
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Sep 25, 2017 09:27
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So I guess we should've listened to One Nation in the 90s and kicked all these tory fuckers out. Just wait until the LNP realise how socially conservative most muslims are too
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Sep 25, 2017 09:28
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It's kinda of crazy how the ALP hasn't touched Chinese social media since 2013. It's like they wanted to distance themselves from Rudd so hard that they haven't posted on their Chinese accounts since 2014 and yes I checked today. LNP post in Chinese daily. ALP hasn't since Rudd. Extremely odd. It's gonna bite them in the arse in a few years time when the minority voter base solidifies in certain seats and the ALP has to play catch up contesting with almost 5 years of uncontested communication from the LNP. The No Campaign is also doing the same thing as the LNP, my partner told me that Yes has zero presence on Chinese social media.
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Sep 25, 2017 09:33
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Isn't there a Christian fundamentalist subsection of the Chinese community who either feel like, or were actually persecuted for being Christian in China? Like idk if this is some bizarro fever dream I had but I remember something about certain sects being underground in the PRC
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Sep 25, 2017 09:41
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I know some Chinese folk fairly well at uni, and a lot of them have mentioned that there is familial pressure to accept certain social norms, such as a very specific range of acceptable education topics, no to being gay because the only reason you exist to your parents is to continue their line. Unless you come from a chill family, the threat of being disowned is real for some of these people.
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the old ceremony posted:maybe i should join the greens and figure out why nobody is doing this stuff At least in Sydney the seats with the largest Chinese population (Reid, Banks, Bennelong, Parramatta) are outside the inner city suburbs that make up the Green strongholds. Of those 4 there are two marginals held by Liberals (Reid, Banks), one somewhat safe Labor seat (Parramatta), and one somewhat safe Liberal seat (Bennelong). The Greens don't poll fantastically in those places to begin with. Not sure about Melbourne, although it's worth pointing out that in 2016 Chisholm was a marginal seat without an incumbent. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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