Bad With Money 2018: When I die, bury me in the blockchain.

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Cast_No_Shadow: Jun 8, 2010; The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Have some ambition guys!

You live in the United States and require the United States Government for your business to be operational, everything from services and infrastructure to the on going defense of the nation.

Deduct the entire federal budget.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 08:45

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# ? May 14, 2024 19:31

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Saw this, thought of you lot.

According to the latest episode, the Money Bin is actually pretty bwm, though magical protection is gwm when you have a ton of revenge curses on your head.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 10:45

Ashcans: Jan 2, 2006; Let's do the space-time warp again!

I would assume that if you do something as plainly dumb as trying to claim your divorce, the IRS is going to check up on you regularly forever because there is no way someone like that doesn't continue to make mistakes until they get a professional involved.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 13:30

Krispy Wafer: Jul 26, 2002; I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat; Grimey Drawer

He keeps mentioning Turbo Tax because he's an internet celebrity and he's probably hoping Intuit reaches out to him to get rid of all this bad press.

Of course I'm going to guess that any eventual Turbo Tax overture is a lawsuit for lying about their product. I wouldn't be surprised if they've run his scenario through their software and know exactly whether or not there was any ambiguity in the messages.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 14:19

Moneyball: Jul 11, 2005; It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.

It's alright, he can just deduct any legal fees and damages and claim H&R Block said it was okay.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 14:25

Ashcans: Jan 2, 2006; Let's do the space-time warp again!

He says in a couple videos that he is working with the people from TaxAudit.com, which is I guess the people who provide the audit assistance if you get it through TurboTax? So I am guessing they would just say 'We're providing you with audit defense services, please talk to that person and listen to them and quit posting terrible incriminating poo poo everywhere'.

Also its hilarious that he keeps bitching about how TurboTax hosed him by not stopping him from doing stupid things, but then is apparently fine relying on their audit defense instead of getting his own attorney or agent now.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 14:36

John Smith: Feb 26, 2015; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Krispy Kareem posted:

He keeps mentioning Turbo Tax because he's an internet celebrity and he's probably hoping Intuit reaches out to him to get rid of all this bad press.

Of course I'm going to guess that any eventual Turbo Tax overture is a lawsuit for lying about their product. I wouldn't be surprised if they've run his scenario through their software and know exactly whether or not there was any ambiguity in the messages.

I hope they sue and wipe him out even more thoroughly. Think of it as a one-two routine. First the IRS big heavy, then just when you think it is over, it is Turbo Tax after IRS tags them in!!!

# ? Sep 25, 2017 14:40

pathetic little tramp: Dec 12, 2005; by Hillary Clinton's assassins; Fallen Rib

He filmed an entire walkthrough of his house, but didn't he say that he did that as some sort of way to keep the IRS from actually coming to his house and doing a walk through?

Is it just me or is the IRS physically coming to your house to catalogue your possessions criminal-stuff territory?

# ? Sep 25, 2017 16:12

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

pathetic little tramp posted:

Is it just me or is the IRS physically coming to your house to catalogue your possessions criminal-stuff territory?

Link them the Reddit thread and they'll probably come do it out of spite. :v:

# ? Sep 25, 2017 16:28

Ashcans: Jan 2, 2006; Let's do the space-time warp again!

The IRS is allowed to inspect businesses as part of an audit to confirm stuff is real, and that includes a home office because you're claiming it as a place of business. Normally this would mean that they come to your house and look at one room, and apparently the auditor will often accept dated photos of the room as verification to save themselves the trip. Of course, this dude claimed the entire house, meaning that they would need to inspect the entire thing for an audit. I am guessing that he didn't think about how to evidence it at all and tried to get the auditor to watch his youtube channel on his phone or something, so they said nope, we're coming to see it and we're not accepting your whiny video instead.

Note that in his video he's crying about how big an inconvenience it is for his family to be out when the audit occurs; the whole point of the deduction is that its a business place, so if you're doing it properly it isn't any inconvenience because no one should be living/sleeping/playing in your office anyway. So just the fact that he's kicking up that fuss more or less torpedoes the entire thing before they even get there and ask about the business need for a room with a child's bed in it.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 16:31

Drunk Tomato: Apr 23, 2010; If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Ashcans posted:

The IRS is allowed to inspect businesses as part of an audit to confirm stuff is real, and that includes a home office because you're claiming it as a place of business. Normally this would mean that they come to your house and look at one room, and apparently the auditor will often accept dated photos of the room as verification to save themselves the trip. Of course, this dude claimed the entire house, meaning that they would need to inspect the entire thing for an audit. I am guessing that he didn't think about how to evidence it at all and tried to get the auditor to watch his youtube channel on his phone or something, so they said nope, we're coming to see it and we're not accepting your whiny video instead.

Note that in his video he's crying about how big an inconvenience it is for his family to be out when the audit occurs; the whole point of the deduction is that its a business place, so if you're doing it properly it isn't any inconvenience because no one should be living/sleeping/playing in your office anyway. So just the fact that he's kicking up that fuss more or less torpedoes the entire thing before they even get there and ask about the business need for a room with a child's bed in it.

I mean the guy is apparently also a huge creep and predator and apparently does porn? So maybe he does use that room for "business" :gonk:

# ? Sep 25, 2017 16:35

Jake Mustache: Feb 7, 2017

I wonder if he would have written off the entire value of his home next year if the IRS didn't catch him this time.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 17:11

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Drunk Tomato posted:

I mean the guy is apparently also a huge creep and predator and apparently does porn? So maybe he does use that room for "business"

Just a reminder that he lets creepy youtube personalities sleep in his children's racecar bed because "they're not old enough to use it anyway"

Just wanna bring that to the front of y'alls minds, let it fester there for a bit, you're welcome

# ? Sep 25, 2017 17:23

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Hey there kids, uncle xXxBloodDarknessVamp69xXx and DrAkE_ThE_Bl00DY_V@L3NTINE will be staying over for a while, but don't worry he won't get his makeup on your racecar bed. Sleep tight!

# ? Sep 25, 2017 17:31

EAT FASTER!!!!!!: Sep 21, 2002; Legendary.

Ugh YouTube is the worst. Tell Google to turn the money faucet off on this guy.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:07

SlapActionJackson: Jul 27, 2006

He does a lot of whining about that in his posts. I think they already did.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:16

Leon Trotsky 2012: Aug 27, 2009; YOU CAN TRUST ME!*

_{*Israeli Government-affiliated poster}

I don't know if this is GWM or BWM for Google, but they had a really hilarious and bizarre anecdote about Youtube's changes to monetization and autoplay that hurt very specific channels.

The jist of it was:

- Previously, Youtube paid based on how many people made it through a certain timeframe (usually about 10 seconds) without leaving combined with who watched the entire ad played without clicking "skip"

- In the old system, the autoplay feature would prioritize videos from the same channel and when it ran out of those, would switch to videos from channels followed by that channel (this made "follow for follow" between certain channels very lucrative.)

- In the new system, it now analyzes keywords and videos clicked by users who watched the current video. It does NOT prioritize videos on the same channel anymore.

- This has apparently resulted in revenue loss of up to 90% for certain channels. The biggest hits? Unboxing/toy video channels and comedy/commentary videos.

- The reason that these unboxing channels lost so much money was because the biggest factor in their monetization algorithm was children.

- Kids would watch the unboxing videos and not skip to other videos. Then, when autoplay would pick another video the kids would just let it keep playing as it cycled through videos that were 90% from that channel or channels followed by the original channel. This racked up a huge amount of "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" counts for these channels.

- Once these changes went live, autoplay would no longer favor the original channel or the various followed channels of the original channel. That means that unpopular videos on channels that have a handful of very popular videos basically stopped being watched at all.

- This killed the multipliers for "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" for a lot of these channels. Previously, 90% of their videos would meet that threshold and they would rack up a ton of views across all of their videos and have it multiplied from the "dedicated viewers" bonuses.

Suddenly, releasing a dozen unboxing videos in a week was much less profitable and view counts tanked because people were no longer automatically directed to them.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 20:04

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I don't know if this is GWM or BWM for Google, but they had a really hilarious and bizarre anecdote about Youtube's changes to monetization and autoplay that hurt very specific channels.

The jist of it was:

- Previously, Youtube paid based on how many people made it through a certain timeframe (usually about 10 seconds) without leaving combined with who watched the entire ad played without clicking "skip"

- In the old system, the autoplay feature would prioritize videos from the same channel and when it ran out of those, would switch to videos from channels followed by that channel (this made "follow for follow" between certain channels very lucrative.)

- In the new system, it now analyzes keywords and videos clicked by users who watched the current video. It does NOT prioritize videos on the same channel anymore.

- This has apparently resulted in revenue loss of up to 90% for certain channels. The biggest hits? Unboxing/toy video channels and comedy/commentary videos.

- The reason that these unboxing channels lost so much money was because the biggest factor in their monetization algorithm was children.

- Kids would watch the unboxing videos and not skip to other videos. Then, when autoplay would pick another video the kids would just let it keep playing as it cycled through videos that were 90% from that channel or channels followed by the original channel. This racked up a huge amount of "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" counts for these channels.

- Once these changes went live, autoplay would no longer favor the original channel or the various followed channels of the original channel. That means that unpopular videos on channels that have a handful of very popular videos basically stopped being watched at all.

- This killed the multipliers for "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" for a lot of these channels. Previously, 90% of their videos would meet that threshold and they would rack up a ton of views across all of their videos and have it multiplied from the "dedicated viewers" bonuses.

Suddenly, releasing a dozen unboxing videos in a week was much less profitable and view counts tanked because people were no longer automatically directed to them.

This system is also the driving factor behind all those bizarre "kids cartoon" youtube videos that look like they were made in 30 minutes by an insane person, parent starts the kid out watching clips of Frozen or whatever and google starts tossing in "Mick Mouse and Happy Bear go to Leningrad" because it lights up the correct keywords

# ? Sep 25, 2017 20:10

Elephanthead: Sep 11, 2008; Toilet Rascal

cumshitter posted:

I take the bus to work so I deduct the entire LA Metro system's budget as a business expense.

I would accept deduct the cost of the bus. Common sense. I mean he pays the taxes that bought the bus. (Well he would if he wasn't a tax evader.)

# ? Sep 25, 2017 20:25

Tiny Brontosaurus: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I don't know if this is GWM or BWM for Google, but they had a really hilarious and bizarre anecdote about Youtube's changes to monetization and autoplay that hurt very specific channels.

The jist of it was:

- Previously, Youtube paid based on how many people made it through a certain timeframe (usually about 10 seconds) without leaving combined with who watched the entire ad played without clicking "skip"

- In the old system, the autoplay feature would prioritize videos from the same channel and when it ran out of those, would switch to videos from channels followed by that channel (this made "follow for follow" between certain channels very lucrative.)

- In the new system, it now analyzes keywords and videos clicked by users who watched the current video. It does NOT prioritize videos on the same channel anymore.

- This has apparently resulted in revenue loss of up to 90% for certain channels. The biggest hits? Unboxing/toy video channels and comedy/commentary videos.

- The reason that these unboxing channels lost so much money was because the biggest factor in their monetization algorithm was children.

- Kids would watch the unboxing videos and not skip to other videos. Then, when autoplay would pick another video the kids would just let it keep playing as it cycled through videos that were 90% from that channel or channels followed by the original channel. This racked up a huge amount of "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" counts for these channels.

- Once these changes went live, autoplay would no longer favor the original channel or the various followed channels of the original channel. That means that unpopular videos on channels that have a handful of very popular videos basically stopped being watched at all.

- This killed the multipliers for "watched ad all the way through" and "watched video all the way through" for a lot of these channels. Previously, 90% of their videos would meet that threshold and they would rack up a ton of views across all of their videos and have it multiplied from the "dedicated viewers" bonuses.

Suddenly, releasing a dozen unboxing videos in a week was much less profitable and view counts tanked because people were no longer automatically directed to them.

This was really informative! I had noticed Youtube got more annoying for me as a viewer recently - I usually want to watch content only on the channel I chose, so autoplay is basically useless for me now. But it made Onision sad so I think I came out ahead.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 20:29

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I don't know if this is GWM or BWM for Google, but they had a really hilarious and bizarre anecdote about Youtube's changes to monetization and autoplay that hurt very specific channels.

The jist of it was:

It will never not be amazing to me that advertisers are willing to collectively pay $25 billion dollars per year for such a complete hallucination. Everybody must know that this is all just one big collective fantasy, but they all consent to and keep participating it in because they can't figure out anything better.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 20:46

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Why they penalize the channel for users clicking "skip ad" is mind boggling. How is the channel owner at fault for advertisers putting out garage?

There's one that keeps showing up for final fantasy whatever where some random dude is getting decked out in fantasy armor when a mouse drags pieces over in an inventory, while some awful doot doot music plays. That one's an instant skip every time.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:05

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

And here I'd heard that advertisers actually pay more money for skippable ads because someone skipping it means there's actually a person watching the channel who saw five seconds of your ad, rather than someone who just wandered away from their computer and let it keep autoplaying videos until the heat death of the universe.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:09

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

Volmarias posted:

Why they penalize the channel for users clicking "skip ad" is mind boggling. How is the channel owner at fault for advertisers putting out garage?

Because internet advertising is throwing random poo poo at users & content creators and hoping some of it turns into money for whoever's paying for the ads.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:37

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Haifisch posted:

Because internet advertising is throwing random poo poo at users & content creators and hoping some of it turns into money for whoever's paying for the ads.

And YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. all rely on the platform pushing all the risks and most of the costs to creators while introducing barriers to decentralizing the mechanics of extracting value from said content.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:43

ranbo das: Oct 16, 2013

All I get is loving Final Fantasy ads forever. It's to the point I've seriously considered YouTube Red just to stop seeing loving Final Fantasy ads.

I guess in that sense their ads are working. It's me, I'm the BWM.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:57

Solice Kirsk: Jun 1, 2004; .

How do you guys not have AdBlock Plus or UBlock Origin running? I always forget what websites look like with 3/4ths of the screen being filled with ads and links.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:11

potatoducks: Jan 26, 2006

A lot of sites detect ad blocking software now. Getting annoying again.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:16

Haifisch: Nov 13, 2010; Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!; Taco Defender

And then the adblockers update to block the adblock blockers.

Internet advertising's turned into a predator/prey ecosystem, and it kind of rules.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:18

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

potatoducks posted:

A lot of sites detect ad blocking software now. Getting annoying again.

uBlock Origin is pretty good at anti-adblock-adblocking if you enable the list for it (I assume ABP is too since it's the same lists). I only encounter "lol gently caress you turn off adblock" sites every now and then, and with ublock that just means hitting the button to turn it off and refreshing the page.

Also I have youtube red because I pay for google music like a sucker and it comes free and so far I noticed zero difference but at least i get to rest assured that one fraction of one percent of that :10bux:

is going towards, idk, bigclivedotcom or supergreatfriend :3:

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:21

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Haifisch posted:

And then the adblockers update to block the adblock blockers.

Internet advertising's turned into a predator/prey ecosystem, and it kind of rules.

It's basically an arms race and it's going to get really lovely for everyone really fast when it picks up a bit more.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:22

ranbo das: Oct 16, 2013

Solice Kirsk posted:

How do you guys not have AdBlock Plus or UBlock Origin running? I always forget what websites look like with 3/4ths of the screen being filled with ads and links.

Mostly because all the adblocker apps I've tried for mobile are various shades of jank bullshit that I don't wanna deal with

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:36

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Solice Kirsk posted:

How do you guys not have AdBlock Plus or UBlock Origin running? I always forget what websites look like with 3/4ths of the screen being filled with ads and links.

I watch most of my youtube via my TiVo. Sadly no adblock for it.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:43

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

I have YouTube red, but on my corp account but not my personal account because Stupid Reasons and personal inertia.

I'm pretty happy with Play Music on the whole.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:44

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

Theres a ublock fork that blocks+ also autoclicks every ad to send false hits to all the advertisers and their tracking and despite it having a noticeable performance hit I still use it because hey, this is even more fun than just blocking ads.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:53

EAT FASTER!!!!!!: Sep 21, 2002; Legendary.

mastershakeman posted:

Theres a ublock fork that blocks+ also autoclicks every ad to send false hits to all the advertisers and their tracking and despite it having a noticeable performance hit I still use it because hey, this is even more fun than just blocking ads.

Wow, this is especially devious.

# ? Sep 25, 2017 23:10

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Wow, this is especially devious.

https://adnauseam.io/

it even tells you an estimate of how many ad dollars you've wasted

# ? Sep 26, 2017 01:15

TLG James: Jun 5, 2000; Questing ain't easy

ranbo das posted:

All I get is loving Final Fantasy ads forever. It's to the point I've seriously considered YouTube Red just to stop seeing loving Final Fantasy ads.

I guess in that sense their ads are working. It's me, I'm the BWM.

lol, this is all the "playable" ads I get when playing plants vs zombies. If anything, it made me never want to download the game, because it looks like an absolutely lovely tower defense game.

drat square, why not make some sort of online final fantasy tactics

# ? Sep 26, 2017 01:44

BEHOLD: MY CAPE: Jan 11, 2004

mastershakeman posted:

Theres a ublock fork that blocks+ also autoclicks every ad to send false hits to all the advertisers and their tracking and despite it having a noticeable performance hit I still use it because hey, this is even more fun than just blocking ads.

Avatar + post combo lol

# ? Sep 26, 2017 04:08

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Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

mastershakeman posted:

https://adnauseam.io/

it even tells you an estimate of how many ad dollars you've wasted

Oh hey i remember when that thing launched, it was a buggy piece of poo poo that broke when I tried to use it. I'm glad they kept on keeping on :3:

# ? Sep 26, 2017 04:17

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