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Vincent Van Goatse posted:From the first play I knew it was a classic Trap Game. It was the exact same as 52-0 beatdown by the Rams a few years ago. Once or twice a season Oakland reverts to a pumpkin for whatever reason Edit: one of Carr's biggest knocks imo is before any big game he comes out jittery and overthrows a few balls until he calms down. It just happened here that his first few balls overthrown were INTs and he never recovered. The Redskins came out ready to play with some weird chip on their shoulder like we were the Cowboys or something and the Raiders went down with a glass jaw.
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Blitz7x posted:The Redskins are not that good and the Raiders are not that bad, just a weird game I think the Redskins defense might actually be really good
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achillesforever6 posted:I think he's just declining to being a bad QB that gets bailed out by his really good WRs Yeah. He's had a number of games like that in recent years. I'd hoped they were due to injuries, but it seems more and more likely that he just isn't that good with the deep ball anymore. Which is a huge issue since they have amazing deep threats at WR. And forcing defenses to counter that would open room for Bell. He left, what, three TDs on the field by under or overthrowing Bryant and Brown when they'd beaten the defense yesterday? Odd how I see almost nobody talking about this in the media.
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Ware and Hunt would have been the dream backfield, two bigger backs than can run and catch and wear down defenses
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Yeah. He's had a number of games like that in recent years. I'd hoped they were due to injuries, but it seems more and more likely that he just isn't that good with the deep ball anymore. Which is a huge issue since they have amazing deep threats at WR. And forcing defenses to counter that would open room for Bell. Cian Fahey is doing his thing about that game currently and pointed out a handful: https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/912381033269612549
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DariusLikewise posted:I think the Redskins defense might actually be really good Really good defense doesn't account for that offensive performance from Oakland. It was an aberration. That game by Oakland was worse than some of their 2006 games
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It was the Raiders OL that was the aberration. Their interior 3 are the best in the league and the Skins DL were pushing them around like sleds yesterday.
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Yeah. He's had a number of games like that in recent years. I'd hoped they were due to injuries, but it seems more and more likely that he just isn't that good with the deep ball anymore. Which is a huge issue since they have amazing deep threats at WR. And forcing defenses to counter that would open room for Bell. Not really true might be why here's his stats for the first 3 games of the last few years. 2017: 69/110 which is 62.7%. 5 TDs and 1 int. Mean passer rating of 94.17. Mean Adjusted yards gained per passing attempt being 7.26. 2016: 35/59 which is 59.3%. 6 TDs and 4 ints. Mean passer rating of 84.43. Mean Adjusted yards gained per passing attempt being 6.51. 2015: 67/89 which is 75.3%. 4 TDs and 2 ints. Mean passer rating of 111.27. Mean Adjusted yards gained per passing attempt being 10.2. 2014: 67/101 which is 66.3%. 3 TDs and 2 ints. Mean passer rating of 92.7. Mean Adjusted yards gained per passing attempt being 7.51. Last year was much more indicitave of a dropoff than this year so far. 2015 where he was just on fire is actually the anomaly.
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Kalli posted:Cian Fahey is doing his thing about that game currently and pointed out a handful: Thanks, I didn't know about that feed and it looks awesome.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:It was the Raiders OL that was the aberration. Their interior 3 are the best in the league and the Skins DL were pushing them around like sleds yesterday. https://twitter.com/obee1ne/status/912209893045698560 🤔🤔🤔
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Thanks, I didn't know about that feed and it looks awesome. Fair warning that he's a bit of an rear end in a top hat, is often wrong, and stays married to wrong opinions. Good source of gifs though For example: https://twitter.com/KP_Show/status/912312628143362050
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SHOAH NUFF posted:It was the Raiders OL that was the aberration. Their interior 3 are the best in the league and the Skins DL were pushing them around like sleds yesterday. The Jim Tomsula effect. I miss that gassy man.
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I really wish the Texans owner would grow some balls and actually fire people when they were bad at their job. Rick Smith will never get fired no matter how poorly he drafts or mishandles free agency, and O'Brien mishandled the end of that game so badly he should have been thrown out of the plane on the way home. 1) Wasted a challenge when the Pats were going to punt anyway 2) Did not go for it on 4th and a foot from the Pats 18 yard line up 2. Foreman was running over people and Watson could get a few yards on the ground easy, getting that foot doesn't seem hard. You then kill a ton of clock, maybe end the game with a TD, and at the very least get a FG and give them only 30ish seconds to march down the field. 3) Did not blitz on the 3rd and 18 or the final TD play. Your strength is your front 7, your backs are trash, you can't give Brady time to throw down field... 4) Did not immediately call at timeout on the final Texans drive wasting roughly 9 seconds. You could have had one to two chances to throw to the sidelines and set up a long field goal try... The Texans had no business being in that game to begin with, but they had no business losing it either. gently caress Bill O'Brien.
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Frustrated posted:I really wish the Texans owner would grow some balls and actually fire people when they were bad at their job. Rick Smith will never get fired no matter how poorly he drafts or mishandles free agency, and O'Brien mishandled the end of that game so badly he should have been thrown out of the plane on the way home. Yeah that lack of a timeout on the last drive was a real mystery. We always benefit from Facing The Patriots Derangement Syndrome and I love it to death
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Kalli posted:Fair warning that he's a bit of an rear end in a top hat, is often wrong, and stays married to wrong opinions. Thanks for the warning but, like you, I've been a goon since before it cost  so that won't be anything new.
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https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/912394619324915712 hell, same
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Two years, heck I wish
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Awfully nice of Gase to throw his offense under the bus like that
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My thoughts on the Raiders: this is a young team and I wonder if maybe they'd been reading too many of their own press clippings lately and just expected to waltz pass this week?
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Yeah, IIRC their o-line has been good and getting better for the last few years, which has been helping Cousins a lot. If their defense has really taken a leap forward — obviously an open question — they ought to be a legit contender.
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Sour Diesel posted:maybe the redskins arent that awful of a team and scored more points than the raiders They did score more points than the Raiders.
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Sour Diesel posted:maybe the redskins arent that awful of a team and scored more points than the raiders Your first contention does not automatically connect to your second.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:My thoughts on the Raiders: this is a young team and I wonder if maybe they'd been reading too many of their own press clippings lately and just expected to waltz pass this week? The game in Denver next week is way more important than this Redskins game. I wonder if they just thought they could roll over the Redskins by using it as a Denver bye week and got fuckin rolled in turn
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Sour Diesel posted:maybe the redskins arent that awful of a team I refuse to accept this.
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i didn't say good just not awful
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Sour Diesel posted:i didn't say good I'd actually argue the opposite. It's possible they're a good team while still being a totally awful team.
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Oh, here's why the 10s runoff on instant replays on live clocks exists btw: (it's at 1:10 the time link doesn't work when launching it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0-33uBx68&t=70s
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Sour Diesel posted:i think if you have a timeout to burn in the lions situation you should have the option to use it after a review to kill the runoff Absolutely. I presume you can.. if they didn't let the Lions, then whew boy. Also I think the better Lions argument is that he doesn't have possession of the ball until he's across the goal line. Seems dumb that at the point he's considered dead on replay, it'd clearly be an incompletion if the ball was swatted out.
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Kalli posted:Absolutely. I presume you can.. if they didn't let the Lions, then whew boy. i think the lions did have 1 timeout to burn if the play was called correctly by the refs they would've burned it anyway to run another play, so in that case after the reviews if they have a timeout i really think the refs should ask if they want to burn one if they have it i'm pretty certain this is coming up at the end of the season with the rulesbros
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Sour Diesel posted:i think the lions did have 1 timeout to burn Oh, then they absolutely got hosed if they had a timeout. On any other time runoff you can use a TO to prevent it.
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