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ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiJwKD8Cw0o

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Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



psydude posted:

drat:

Snopes posted:

Prior to that year, whether or not to appear on the field for the anthem was left up to teams’ discretion. In one instance, the Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins did so on 24 November 1963, just two days after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy:

There were 60,671 fans at Franklin Field to see the Eagles and the Redskins play a game that didn’t matter on a weekend on which almost everything else seemed to matter. There was no pregame hoo-ha; [Commissioner Pete] Rozelle, at least, had drawn the line at that. There were no player introductions. The Eagles and the Redskins simply walked out to midfield and joined hands. A bugler blew Taps, which nearly finished [Tommy] McDonald on the spot. Then the whole stadium sang the national anthem a cappella.

Tommy McDonald Height: 5-9 Weight: 176. Hell of a man.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/912386350942494721

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Good?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

.....uh, yeah?

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Hey here's a thought, and stick with me on this one, maybe we spend too much on our military? loving SHOCKING I KNOW

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

bird food bathtub posted:

Hey here's a thought, and stick with me on this one, maybe we spend too much on our military? loving SHOCKING I KNOW

Its almost like we spend more than double our largest challenger.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

If you merged TRICARE with Medicaid, I wonder how drastically that would decrease military spending.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Eh, the amount we spend on our military is 3.3% of our GDP. That's not nothing, but it's by no means wildly inappropriate to our standing in the world. I'm perfectly happy with where it's at, and honestly, we could easily toss a few hundred billion extra in there and be perfectly okay.

People look at our military budget and just think in absolute terms tend to forget just how ridiculously, ludicrously wealthy we are as a nation.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Take free healthcare as a military benefit by giving it to everyone and I dare say you'd save a bunch on not paying soldiers we don't have any more.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

The Iron Rose posted:

Eh, the amount we spend on our military is 3.3% of our GDP. That's not nothing, but it's by no means wildly inappropriate to our standing in the world. I'm perfectly happy with where it's at, and honestly, we could easily toss a few hundred billion extra in there and be perfectly okay.

People look at our military budget and just think in absolute terms tend to forget just how ridiculously, ludicrously wealthy we are as a nation.

That's more than double we need to spend, while we bitch and moan about providing healthcare and food for the poor.

What's so worth defending if we are not willing to take care of our people.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
cut mil spending in half and then tax the rich till they die

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

CommieGIR posted:

That's more than double we need to spend, while we bitch and moan about providing healthcare and food for the poor.

What's so worth defending if we are not willing to take care of our people.

The flag you unamerican gently caress

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

BigDave posted:

Susan Collins just came out as a firm 'no'. Maybe this will finally kill the goddamn thing.
I said this the other umpteen times. I'm not about to get optimistic ITYOOL 2017

Raerlynn
Oct 28, 2007

Sorry I'm late, I'm afraid I got lost on the path of life.

The Iron Rose posted:

Eh, the amount we spend on our military is 3.3% of our GDP. That's not nothing, but it's by no means wildly inappropriate to our standing in the world. I'm perfectly happy with where it's at, and honestly, we could easily toss a few hundred billion extra in there and be perfectly okay.

People look at our military budget and just think in absolute terms tend to forget just how ridiculously, ludicrously wealthy we are as a nation.

Funny, cause when you look at our nation outside of a handful of bright spots, you'd think we're poor at best, and third world country at worst.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

The Iron Rose posted:

Eh, the amount we spend on our military is 3.3% of our GDP. That's not nothing, but it's by no means wildly inappropriate to our standing in the world. I'm perfectly happy with where it's at, and honestly, we could easily toss a few hundred billion extra in there and be perfectly okay.

People look at our military budget and just think in absolute terms tend to forget just how ridiculously, ludicrously wealthy we are as a nation.

Or we could invest that money into healthcare, education, school nutrition programs, etc that would all have a positive effect on not only the military but American society as a whole. Maybe even throw some of that $$$ to the VA to make sure those who served their country are cared for properly by a well-staffed and functioning organization. I will admit it's not as sexy as the 500th M1 Abrams the Army doesn't want, another tomahawk to blow up some insurgents armed with AK's, or providing Boeing/LockMart CEOs with retirement parachutes, but maybe we could give it a try.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

So I know a lot of you guys have been affected by the recent data breaches, either at Equi-gofuckyourself-fax or the loving OPM. I finally sat down and froze all my credit reports and it wasn't as hard as I feared it would be. Took me about 90 minutes to go through and freeze the big 3 plus Chexsystems. I got most of my information here: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/09/the-equifax-breach-what-you-should-know/

Just wanted to remind ya'll to protect your poo poo, I procrastinated on doing this for way too long and now that it's done I feel silly not doing it earlier.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


https://twitter.com/Travis_Tritten/status/912408644096024578

Mattis owns

edit: welp I see this got edited in on previous page

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
Secret Service, FBI, and other orgs at the data breach summit all seem to conclude that the breaches are going to get worse before they get better.

~200-300 nonstate actors are behind almost all of the breaches since 2005, and operate at a level beyond most (implied, US) cybercommands operate at. It's like an organized crime cartel on steroids according to the keynote speaker this morning.

Total number of breached records and services have reached a sort of critical mass that makes future macro-scale breaches and hacks exponentially easier and within the reach of less sophisticated actors. 2017 trending to blow away 2016 record and that was before the SEC and Deloitte things went public last week.

Hold onto your asses.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009
Message was basically "you all have been owned for months or years already, brush up your response plans and get a specialised breach law firm on retainer "

E; if you haven't taped over your webcam, they probably have footage of you in the throes of a gnarly j/o session and they're showing it at their holiday parties.

Immanentized fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 26, 2017

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Free universal healthcare for registered voters
2 years compulsory service in DoD / federal govt / peace corps between ages of 18 - 23; no exceptions only jail time

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Zeris posted:

Free universal healthcare for registered voters
2 years compulsory service in DoD / federal govt / peace corps between ages of 18 - 23; no exceptions only jail time

Service guarantees citizenship!

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Immanentized posted:

Secret Service, FBI, and other orgs at the data breach summit all seem to conclude that the breaches are going to get worse before they get better.

~200-300 nonstate actors are behind almost all of the breaches since 2005, and operate at a level beyond most (implied, US) cybercommands operate at. It's like an organized crime cartel on steroids according to the keynote speaker this morning.

Total number of breached records and services have reached a sort of critical mass that makes future macro-scale breaches and hacks exponentially easier and within the reach of less sophisticated actors. 2017 trending to blow away 2016 record and that was before the SEC and Deloitte things went public last week.

Hold onto your asses.

Working in the InfoSec industry is basically nothing more than getting paid a lot of money to think up new ways to bang your head against the wall while cursing human beings for only being human.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

psydude posted:

Working in the InfoSec industry is basically nothing more than getting paid a lot of money to think up new ways to bang your head against the wall while cursing human beings for only being human.

Job security!

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Immanentized posted:

Job security!

Pretty much. The Russians were kind enough to light a fire under the rear end of a large portion of my client base this past summer when they attacked Ukraine's power grid for the second time in 18 months.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

psydude posted:

Working in the InfoSec industry is basically nothing more than getting paid a lot of money to think up new ways to bang your head against the wall while cursing human beings for only being human.

i thank god every day for cryptolocker since its basically the 10 pound sledge i use to beat hesitant owners and angry managers into compliance. ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!

bengy81
May 8, 2010
That's why I keep all my important digital info in an unsecured Dropbox, can't steal it if it's already out there! :smuggo:

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Proud Christian Mom posted:

i thank god every day for cryptolocker since its basically the 10 pound sledge i use to beat hesitant owners and angry managers into compliance. ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!

See, I'm internal infosec audit and my clients are the dumbest sedentary motherfuckers around, we got beat with the FFIEC and FDIC ugly stick this past year and are still sitting on remediation tasks from 2013. It's the easiest fix to make but these assholee are so obsessed with their slot-in platforms to do anything about it.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

BadOptics posted:

Or we could invest that money into healthcare, education, school nutrition programs, etc that would all have a positive effect on not only the military but American society as a whole. Maybe even throw some of that $$$ to the VA to make sure those who served their country are cared for properly by a well-staffed and functioning organization. I will admit it's not as sexy as the 500th M1 Abrams the Army doesn't want, another tomahawk to blow up some insurgents armed with AK's, or providing Boeing/LockMart CEOs with retirement parachutes, but maybe we could give it a try.

I mean, it's not a binary. There's no reason why the US can't spend ludicrous amounts of money on the military and have a robust social safety net.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Immanentized posted:

See, I'm internal infosec audit and my clients are the dumbest sedentary motherfuckers around, we got beat with the FFIEC and FDIC ugly stick this past year and are still sitting on remediation tasks from 2013. It's the easiest fix to make but these assholee are so obsessed with their slot-in platforms to do anything about it.

confirming this so hard

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Immanentized posted:

See, I'm internal infosec audit and my clients are the dumbest sedentary motherfuckers around, we got beat with the FFIEC and FDIC ugly stick this past year and are still sitting on remediation tasks from 2013. It's the easiest fix to make but these assholee are so obsessed with their slot-in platforms to do anything about it.

I work in Industrial InfoSec (think ICS and SCADA systems) and a lot of my client base either don't have a SOC or just recently got one. We're talking about massive multinational companies in some instances.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

psydude posted:

I work in Industrial InfoSec (think ICS and SCADA systems) and a lot of my client base either don't have a SOC or just recently got one. We're talking about massive multinational companies in some instances.

I interviewed for an audit director role at a place like that, makes those rotary irrigation systems. The way the CISO casually talked about the Chinese exfiltrating gigabytes of data on a weekly basis gave me half a dozen grey hairs. Got the offer, great pay and benes but I had to turn it down cause the stress would have taken a decade off my life.

I don't know how these places manage beyond pure inertia

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

Terrifying Effigies posted:

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/912436571688849408

I'm amazed that Graham & Cassidy are still (supposedly) showing up for CNN's clownshow tonight. Looking forward to them deflecting every question with "but what about Bernie's SOCIALISM :ussr::hf::bernpop:!?"

Bonus points if they ask the audience if they want single payer and get drowned out by cheers.

im working a lovely town in WV with a very expensive private hospital for some reason can someone post hot takes while i poo poo post from a Buffalow wild wing

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Immanentized posted:

I don't know how these places manage beyond pure inertia

By lying and then being like "hey we couldn't have foreseen this" when they get caught out.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

The Chinese are loving grand-masters of industrial espionage.

They'll buy one of our injection molding machines and as soon as the techs are done setting it up and they leave, the machine will be stripped down to it's components parts and scrutinized, and then copied.

Then when it gets hosed up getting put back together our techs will suddenly wonder where those 6 additional machines came from, down to the paint color and everything.

The jist I've gotten from our sales and tech guys is; their molds and machines last about 1/3 as long as ours do...but cost about 1/4.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
everything here needs to integrate and operate flawlessly despite equipment being anywhere from brand new to 25 years old also you're not allowed to change anything or spend any money.

*drinks self to death*

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

MA-Horus posted:

The Chinese are loving grand-masters of industrial espionage.

They'll buy one of our injection molding machines and as soon as the techs are done setting it up and they leave, the machine will be stripped down to it's components parts and scrutinized, and then copied.

Then when it gets hosed up getting put back together our techs will suddenly wonder where those 6 additional machines came from, down to the paint color and everything.

The jist I've gotten from our sales and tech guys is; their molds and machines last about 1/3 as long as ours do...but cost about 1/4.

Oh no, they are starting to be excellent copies. I know they got caught copying a CNC machine by the manufacturer, and their copy was not only as accurate and capable, but was ten times cheaper and more compatible with third party systems.

vains
May 26, 2004

A Big Ten institution offering distance education catering to adult learners

Raerlynn posted:

Funny, cause when you look at our nation outside of a handful of bright spots, you'd think we're poor at best, and third world country at worst.

you're huffing fellow internet leftist farts or you've never been to the third world.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

vains posted:

you're huffing fellow internet leftist farts or you've never been to the third world.

Empty quoting this.

e: gently caress i hate agreeing with veins

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Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Like America should have a super robust safety net but America is also in a very unique situation geo-strategically in that we are ALWAYS the away team. not just the away team, we're the away team like an NFL team in lodnon. our logistical footprint is loving mindboggoling when you look at the rest of the world and getting beans bullets and bodies to wherever they need to be is loving expensive. Our logistical tail is so incredibly complex it almost gets my dick hard from a project management perspective so yeah we need and should spend a bunch of money and significantly more money than everyone else doing that kind of poo poo cause we require capablities no one e lse does

also the fact that we need to be able to maintain 2 major theaters and an expeditionary force. Which i think is an appropriate level of force for us as world hegemon (lol) and all that poo poo but we could def spend the money better

I also would argue that we are directing money into the wrong things, like cyber and drones and electronic warefare is such a new battlefield that we are going to get loving spanked in...unless we start making it it rain nukes

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