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Wild Horses posted:The part where his pure, innocent gf was helping him grip his pen so he could work himself harder to death in the hospital was touching That's what has me interested in reading it. I feel like it'd be a really candid look at what it's like to be a succesful weekly manga author/artist/duo even if it's presented in a really positive way. Or is that shown to be hosed as it is? Death Note chat: Interestingly when Near mentioned working with Light he says he believes Mello to be responsible for the theft of the Death Note and kidnappings. However he says he doesn't have a photo of Mello even though he showed us one in the previous episode. I wonder if he already suspects Light of being Kira or its just a precaution or something else
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all the industry stuff in bakuman is legitimately interesting. my favorite parts are seeing the manga ideas they come up with in a show-within-a-show kinda way. theres a bit of apologia for the publishing and editorial side of the industry, but thats to be expected the love story between the main character and his gf is just a bit insipid, thats all
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That relationship stuff sounds quite bad but if it's a fairly small part of it I think I'll give it a go because the other stuff sounds interesting.
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sometimes it is the main focus, sometimes it is completely ignored. and yeah, the parts about manga are pretty good.
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amigolupus posted:I think the worst part is how at the end of the series when misogynistic internet assholes were slutshaming Miho for the crime of being in a relationship, they use their ridiculous relationship as the main reason to get everyone to back off. It's presented as this pure love, so that somehow makes it okay for a female VA to get in a relationship. Bakuman was fun, but it was also pretty hosed up. I was reading this manga about this dude who cross-dresses and joins AKB48, and it basically played the whole "idols dating (or even being seen alone with) a man is a betrayal of all their fans" thing totally straight. Like, the protagonist's response is "mm yes, this is reasonable and it is very honorable for them to give this great consideration to their fans." Like it would show these crazy fans all outraged at this idol who was seen with a dude (in a non-romantic situation even) and the situation was resolved by the idol apologizing profusely and the general tone was that this was a reasonable thing for them to do. It's really surreal, to be honest. Like, just putting yourself in the mind of someone who would think this sort of thing is reasonable is upsetting.
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I watched episode 30 of Death Note which I guess is the last one I ever watched because people started rioting outside Near's house. Really excited to see the conclusion in the next few days!
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The closest analogue to the idol industry in America is Disney teen pop stars We're not quite as weird about it but honestly its politics are pretty similar Disney is also responsible for anime Tarezax fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Sep 26, 2017 |
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Tarezax posted:The closest analogue to the idol industry in America is Disney teen pop stars I think early on people were super weird in the initial years when they set out to do their own thing and not just be a Disney brand (although starring in stuff like Spring Break is can be seen as overcompensating, but well....) Time works its magic pretty well and now we can at least see celebs like Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez as women who are doing their own thing as opposed to, "hey, washed up teen pop star."
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Let's be honest here, who even buys all this idol poo poo besides the weird dudes that don't want them to date. They kinda put themselves into a corner here by catering to the weirdos. Also don't most idols get paid really low salaries? Why do they even do it?
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nerdz posted:Let's be honest here, who even buys all this idol poo poo besides the weird dudes that don't want them to date. They kinda put themselves into a corner here by catering to the weirdos. Groups like AKB48 actually have considerably high mainstream popularity as far as I'm aware, though I'm not sure how much of their revenue comes from "normal" sources rather than otaku buying 30 copies of a CD to get a handshake ticket.
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every time I see a notification for a new chapter of fire punch, I just kind of sigh and go "I guesssssssss". I don't even know why I'm bothering. it's creepier and worse than it's ever been.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:every time I see a notification for a new chapter of fire punch, I just kind of sigh and go "I guesssssssss". I don't even know why I'm bothering. it's creepier and worse than it's ever been.
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Captain Invictus posted:please don't read garbage or subject others to it. It had such a good premise too. I dropped it way early, that zany woman was annoying as hell and completely broke the pace of the story.
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Captain Invictus posted:please don't read garbage or subject others to it. love those freakish Chi no Wadachi faces. I'm not sure I liked Mari as much as Flower of Evil, but both of their series are kinda imperfect. I like how creepy and slow this is though.
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I feel so bad for the kid in that. Like, since he's still a kid and it's his mom he doesn't really have any reasonable recourse. I'm going to be quite surprised if his love interest doesn't get murdered or something. I'm kinda wondering where the story can go, though. Like, we get that his mom is creepy, but it's not clear where things can go other than continuing to show his mom being all crazy.
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Ytlaya posted:Groups like AKB48 actually have considerably high mainstream popularity as far as I'm aware, though I'm not sure how much of their revenue comes from "normal" sources rather than otaku buying 30 copies of a CD to get a handshake ticket. It's pretty much wrecked the state of the Japanese music charts because all of the top selling acts are idol groups so all other forms of music are distantly trailing the sales charts since every new idol group sees minimum 100k sales from a few thousand dedicated nerd fans.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:never thought I'd see you say this considering you've read some series I wouldn't even sniff but it's a fair point, I'm just gonna drop this garbage. I blame you guys since I got it ITT and what's this hateboner about bad series you seem to have with me, like point out series I've recommended that built this image of me you seem to have because I'm genuinely curious, there's some I've recommended in the past that then went on to completely, utterly poo poo the bed but other than that I don't really think there's any genuinely bad series that I tell folks to read
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Captain Invictus posted:I mean I could have called you on throwing stones in glass houses but didn't, guess I should have if you're gonna be a poo poo about it Somebody has to do it.
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Like what was that one h.s. series that everyone here loves where it's about like...a superpowered indestructible girl and later turns into a straight up battle manga? I'm good. Don't really want a series that has pantyshots from children. That's just me though, respect! We all have different lines. Y'all can call out say, jiro Matsumoto, but generally you can tell which series are the creepy ones he made Cuz Japan, and under that sorta principle you'd have to ditch The Devil & Me cuz the same guy does Prison H.S. Unfortunately a lot of mangaka do weird poo poo on the side. It's just what you choose to consume. Like, I can't read dowman anymore and that's fine. Guess I'm missing out. Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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What series have I recommended that sexualize children? That's kind of a serious claim and if you're going to push that I'd like some specifics. If it's something like I'm In Mari, well, when I recommended that, at the time it was about figuring out the mystery of the MC being stuck in Mari's body, and hadn't yet gone down the rabbit hole of crazy that it did. Masturbation Master Kurosawa has sexualization but the entire point of that series, and IIM, were about people with serious issues. Like I'm looking through recommendations I've made and those are the worst examples I've found, are you sure you're not mistaking me for someone else? edit: Punkin Spunkin posted:Like what was that one h.s. series that everyone here loves where it's about like...a superpowered indestructible girl and later turns into a straight up battle manga? I'm good. Don't really want a series that has pantyshots from children. That's just me though, respect! We all have different lines. You sound like you're a Lurdiak alt. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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I feel like going back and doing the post history research is too much work so lemme just say: okay you've definitely never gotten into anime/manga series where underage girls are sexualized. Not like that's...97% of manga lol. You specifically left an impression on me what can I say.. Miss the part where I was recommending Fire Punch, incidentally. You just came off as kinda snippy and well, I remember some of the poo poo atdrw is totally fine consuming. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I feel like going back and doing the post history research is too much work so lemme just say: okay you've definitely never gotten into anime/manga series where underage girls are sexualized. Not like that's...97% of manga lol. You specifically left an impression on me what can I say.. Like, my recommendation thread I made was specifically to break that really dumb stereotype for people outside of this subforum, that there's more to the media form than just high school harems, even if there's a loving LOT of those. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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I have no stake in this conversation either way but you're way overreacting dude Anyway Nate RFB posted:Ancient Magus Bride 40 I'm really appreciating how Chise is acting for herself, even if it's probably more for Stella's sake than her own. I still am kinda worried about what I mentioned wrt this series earlier in the thread (Chise and Elias heading toward being severely codependent) but for now at least it's good to see that it's not just on a straight line in that direction. Also a lot of angry nerds ruffled up about how she should be grateful to Elias for saving her life and I guess to them that means he owns her life now? It's been amusing seeing the response to the chapter from the more emotional portions of the fanbase, both male and female.
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AnonSpore posted:I have no stake in this conversation either way but you're way overreacting dude
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Because you and him are duking it out in this thread duh
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Nice meltdowns... I've been reading Zero: Man of Creation and it's pretty ridiculous and fun. It's about a guy who can replicate objects perfectly, so perfectly they can't be detected as counterfeits. It has a real globetrotting feel to it and Zero is comically rich and talented - the Tony stark of art recreationists. Not a great manga, but definitely an unusual premise.
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Fire Punch still interests me more than a lot of manga because it doesn't seem like there's any clear direction and watching the author fumble along is entertaining. If he actually makes it stand up as a completed work in the end I'll be very surprised. Bakuman is fun because you get into all the rivalry between the authors and interesting stuff about how the industry works and concepts are fleshed out, but then you remember that it's a field where people are always working themselves to death or exhaustion with little time for life, when it's so unnecessary. Even the monthly manga artists do it by putting so much more detail into their work. It's a strange place, Japan.
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EmmyOk posted:There's a few points that sound like really heavy cursing but not gently caress lol. I like the animation but the metal isn't as good as "KURUGUURUGU" AnimeLyrics for Death Note OP2 posted:HEY HEY! Ningen SUCKER!! Aa ningen... ningen FUCKER!!
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I've been reading Ancient Magus' Bride recently and I have been liking it quite a bit. Somehow watching the anime it's not nearly as enjoyable. I don't know why. The anime is missing something that I cannot put my finger on, compared to how fun the manga is. Anyone else feel this way? Also, the way Elias is drawn when he's sort of chibi-fied reminds me a LOT of the mini Rak Wrathraiser from Tower of God.
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Endorph posted:yona of the dawn and kancolle are both good in terms of what makes it a good product, rather than why you like it, I mean. I'm all for enjoying garbage, but that's different from something being of actual good quality.
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Sorry but it's actually me who is the arbiter of acceptability about here, and my hot take is that people can think that what they like is good.
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Captain Invictus posted:I'm all for enjoying garbage, but that's different from something being of actual good quality. Not necessarily.
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