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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's the Chinese equivalent of Child Protective services?

Foreign Adoption.

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The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Fojar38 posted:

still cleaner than the fruit in your typical chinese supermarket

lol

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's the Chinese equivalent of Child Protective services?

irl lol

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's the Chinese equivalent of Child Protective services?
Ditching negligent dirtbag grandparents in abandoned towns.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Tupperwarez posted:

Ditching negligent dirtbag grandparents in abandoned towns.

:drat:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
My boss (ok, now my ex-boss, but feels weird to say) didn't let her parents raise her daughter at all. Her parents aren't bad at all compared to nearly all others, but she voluntarily became a stay-at-home-mom so she could raise her daughter with modern practices and thought. This is how she ended up creating her business, since much of it can be done at home with a computer and all you need is a warehouse or space to store the products and some poor guys to box them up and ship them. Her husband is actually a good dad and every night after work and shower he lays with the daughter and reads something to explains something to her. They are about at close to "Non-Mainland" as they can get when it comes to parenting.

Meanwhile, many of the girls I dated often told me similar stories of being abandoned while the parents work in another province, the grandparents hating them because they are female and considered useless, and being physically, sexually, and mentally abused as a result. This has led to many of the women I have talked to falling squarely into the "kill the old" category and hating many old people simply for being old.

---
In local India news:

There's a stray Holstein cow cruising around in my neighborhood. Some farmers and dairy people prefer Holsteins because it's a fact that compared to Brahma-style cows they produce milk with higher fat content, whereas the Brahmas give more a "skim" milk. For making cheese and butter, Holsteins win. The main problem is that Indian cows are used to the heat and humidity, where Holsteins are not, and they sometimes get heat-related issues and fussy.
Anyway, my friends don't think it's very amusing that whenever I see this cow I scream "foreigner" at it and say it should go back where it came from and it's taking Indian jobs.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
let's be real about something rn regarding the child protective services question on the last page: do not mistake the sheer omnipresent size of the Chinese government with any even half hearted pretense that the government gives a poo poo about helping its citizens. the Chinese social safety net, as a whole, is barely comparable to Russia's in both breadth and funding, which implicitly makes it about 20 times worse just due to the number of people involved.

the most mercenary and baldly brutally capitalist portions of the United States and Switzerland do more for the common downtrodden poor child than the ccp has ever done at any point in its history.

do not ever let yourself think for a moment that there is hope in China that comes from the authorities. hope exists there but it comes from everyone who is not in the ccp. the ccp itself exists to perpetuate itself at the expense of everyone and every thing else.

this is China. Enjoy your stay, motherfucker.

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Ni hao! Welcome a the my shop Taobao. I selling the cool shoe. Maybe you yao want the cool shoe to help sports. Do sports is good for healthy. Would u like to the try? I selling you best! Believe me.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Bajaj posted:

Ni hao! Welcome a the my shop Taobao. I selling the cool shoe. Maybe you yao want the cool shoe to help sports. Do sports is good for healthy. Would u like to the try? I selling you best! Believe me.



Can you make five piece suits?

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Bajaj posted:

Ni hao! Welcome a the my shop Taobao. I selling the cool shoe. Maybe you yao want the cool shoe to help sports. Do sports is good for healthy. Would u like to the try? I selling you best! Believe me.



Something is off here, but I don't quite see what it is.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Coolguye posted:

let's be real about something rn regarding the child protective services question on the last page: do not mistake the sheer omnipresent size of the Chinese government with any even half hearted pretense that the government gives a poo poo about helping its citizens. the Chinese social safety net, as a whole, is barely comparable to Russia's in both breadth and funding, which implicitly makes it about 20 times worse just due to the number of people involved.

the most mercenary and baldly brutally capitalist portions of the United States and Switzerland do more for the common downtrodden poor child than the ccp has ever done at any point in its history.

do not ever let yourself think for a moment that there is hope in China that comes from the authorities. hope exists there but it comes from everyone who is not in the ccp. the ccp itself exists to perpetuate itself at the expense of everyone and every thing else.

this is China. Enjoy your stay, motherfucker.

Post this in D&D.

I, uh, I ain't gonna pay your :10bux:, just a heads-up.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Coolguye posted:

let's be real about something rn regarding the child protective services question on the last page: do not mistake the sheer omnipresent size of the Chinese government with any even half hearted pretense that the government gives a poo poo about helping its citizens. the Chinese social safety net, as a whole, is barely comparable to Russia's in both breadth and funding, which implicitly makes it about 20 times worse just due to the number of people involved.

the most mercenary and baldly brutally capitalist portions of the United States and Switzerland do more for the common downtrodden poor child than the ccp has ever done at any point in its history.

do not ever let yourself think for a moment that there is hope in China that comes from the authorities. hope exists there but it comes from everyone who is not in the ccp. the ccp itself exists to perpetuate itself at the expense of everyone and every thing else.

this is China. Enjoy your stay, motherfucker.

post this in the China D&D thread for a rational, completely unbiased and super non-emotional response and critique of your ideas

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
dammit Naba

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Too fast.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Can you make five piece suits?

If by that you mean a suit from five different pieces of material unrelated in size, fabric and colour, they might be able to help you out. For a real five piece suit though, the thread expert is our boy oohhboy. He's going to be posting the picture of his any day now.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Bajaj posted:

In local India news:

There's a stray Holstein cow cruising around in my neighborhood. Some farmers and dairy people prefer Holsteins because it's a fact that compared to Brahma-style cows they produce milk with higher fat content, whereas the Brahmas give more a "skim" milk. For making cheese and butter, Holsteins win. The main problem is that Indian cows are used to the heat and humidity, where Holsteins are not, and they sometimes get heat-related issues and fussy.
Anyway, my friends don't think it's very amusing that whenever I see this cow I scream "foreigner" at it and say it should go back where it came from and it's taking Indian jobs.

Oh my goodness, I want to witness this so badly!

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Bajaj have you got any ayurveda stories? You mentioned that you've got some friends who became more religious and quit eating garlic and onions, is stuff like that more of an issue of personal choice or do you get people enthusiastically insisting on ayurvedic stuff over "western" medicine like with TCM devotees?

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
No eating garlic and onions in India? What madness is this?

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

JaucheCharly posted:

No eating garlic and onions in India? What madness is this?

It's a particular religious sect thing. Certain Buddhists in Taiwan do this.

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?
you kill the whole plant by eating the bulb

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Coolguye posted:

let's be real about something rn regarding the child protective services question on the last page: do not mistake the sheer omnipresent size of the Chinese government with any even half hearted pretense that the government gives a poo poo about helping its citizens. the Chinese social safety net, as a whole, is barely comparable to Russia's in both breadth and funding, which implicitly makes it about 20 times worse just due to the number of people involved.

the most mercenary and baldly brutally capitalist portions of the United States and Switzerland do more for the common downtrodden poor child than the ccp has ever done at any point in its history.

do not ever let yourself think for a moment that there is hope in China that comes from the authorities. hope exists there but it comes from everyone who is not in the ccp. the ccp itself exists to perpetuate itself at the expense of everyone and every thing else.

this is China. Enjoy your stay, motherfucker.

This is accurate. China is the most extreme capitalist gently caress you got mine state I have ever read enough about/lived in to understand. The US is like Denmark in comparison.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Meanwhile in the Hurt Feelings Hall of Fame

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/25/16360656/china-wechat-nasa-blue-marble-fy-4

quote:

Chinese messaging app WeChat dominates its domestic market, as its would-be foreign competitors are often blocked in China. Today, WeChat has removed what could be considered its most “American” feature: a famous photo of Earth called Blue Marble taken from outer space in 1972 by NASA. For years, the image was prominently displayed on the app’s start screen, but WeChat is replacing NASA’s photo with one taken by a Chinese satellite. Both images are Photoshopped to have the silhouette of a human standing before the Earth.

The difference is subtle but political. The NASA photo shows Africa as the center of the sphere, while the Chinese photo shows China. According to Sina.com, WeChat said in a statement that while the African continent is the origin of human civilization, it was also important to show the app’s millions of users the significance of Chinese civilization.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


lol that is incredible.

Vapor Moon
Feb 24, 2010

Neato!
The Human Font

Bajaj posted:

In local India news:

There's a stray Holstein cow cruising around in my neighborhood. Some farmers and dairy people prefer Holsteins because it's a fact that compared to Brahma-style cows they produce milk with higher fat content, whereas the Brahmas give more a "skim" milk. For making cheese and butter, Holsteins win. The main problem is that Indian cows are used to the heat and humidity, where Holsteins are not, and they sometimes get heat-related issues and fussy.
Anyway, my friends don't think it's very amusing that whenever I see this cow I scream "foreigner" at it and say it should go back where it came from and it's taking Indian jobs.

Please post pictures of your local cows.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

I had a Korean friend who was surprised to learn that humans didn't originate in Asia.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Bwahahahaahaha.

That'll show those American bastards! They gonna build a statue of the moon next?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

The Great Autismo! posted:

post this in the China D&D thread for a rational, completely unbiased and super non-emotional response and critique of your ideas

yeah I'm dumb but not this dumb

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
here's the story of the first private car purchased in beijing, circa april 1984

what was reported:



what actually happened:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Miss Sun eat the eggs

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Bajaj posted:

RIP on losing your mind all the time due to Chinese superstitions that were once hidden, but will now be at the forefront of your every day life forever. The woman you married is not the woman you married, etc.

---

Korean looking good.


Miss Mongolia getting my horses running :pervert:

big time bisexual posted:

here's the story of the first private car purchased in beijing, circa april 1984

what was reported:



what actually happened:



Ha ha, that almost sounds like an Onion article. The last line especially

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Line up the "face culture" jokes...

quote:

Chinese workers go ‘faceless’ for a day to avoid stress of faking facial expressions

AS EVERY office worker knows, making facial expressions all day long is exhausting. Luckily for these employees in China, they’ve been given a day off to go “faceless”.

The Associated Press reports staff at a property service company in Northern China’s Handan province wore masks on Tuesday so they didn’t have to fake their facial expression throughout the day.

Woffice, which specialises in leased office space, holds a monthly ”relaxation day” using different themes, with the “faceless” day the latest iteration.

Some were pictured wearing Guy Fawkes masks, popularised by the Anonymous movement and the film V for Vendetta, while others wore masks depicting the “No Face” character from the 2001 animated film Spirited Away.
Most workers chose to go with the “No Face” mask to relax their smiling muscles and remain anonymous in front of customers, Yahoo News reported.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!


:wtf:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

HAT FETISH posted:

Bajaj have you got any ayurveda stories? You mentioned that you've got some friends who became more religious and quit eating garlic and onions, is stuff like that more of an issue of personal choice or do you get people enthusiastically insisting on ayurvedic stuff over "western" medicine like with TCM devotees?
I don't have any ayurveda stories except the ayurveda doctor selling opium pills for sleep problems. It was pure stuff and one pill knocked me out for nearly 24 hours.

Various forms of folk medicine are popular the most with poor people, because they are the cheapest. People with money and education go for allopathic every time because they know it will fix them, but will sometimes supplement with quackery. Homeopathy is absolutely rampant in this country, and they actually get to call themselves "doctor" and put it in their titles and signs. It's cheap and their signs say "doctor," and I feel bad when I see toothless villagers sitting outside their shops with a super ill baby because I know that kid is not going to get the help it needs.
Ayurveda is popular with the poors, but it's weird to me because 90% of the medicine is made up of amla (Indian gooseberries) and neem. Fresh amla is extremely bitter, and tiny slivers of it are so bitter that your tongue takes it back around to being sweet, and it's amazing to eat that way.
Ayurveda is never as pervading or damaging to social and personal life as TCM. Many times, I don't think anyone can even tell you what the philosophy behind it is, or what it helps. A huge portion of it has to do with daily eating habits, but many people tend to think it's strictly a medical system. It's popular now for soaps and lotions to be "ayurvedic" and stick on neem or amla in them like it helps make them work better or be more pure. People tend to mind their own business and won't try shoving their bullshit ideas down your throat like they will in China. Plus, being a hot country, no Indian will ever deny the healing power of air conditioning or cold drinks. In fact, AC is like a cure-all to a lot of problems. If I didn't feel well and I told people I stayed home all day in my room with AC, they will tell me that's the smart thing to do and best for my health.

A lot of people here just divided different medicine types into categories, but have no issue going to allopathy when they can afford it. It's not like Chinese who will actively avoid certain things and surgeries based on TCM hocus pocus. At least you'll still meet people that will outright say "why would anyone try ayurved/homeopathy/something else? They don't make antibiotics for your infection. They don't do surgeries. They aren't going to sew you up."

Somehow though, due to many people putting importance on food and trying to be healthy, they buy into a lot of marketing bullshit of Western ideas for healthy food. Jared (of Subway fame) was very well-known, and Subway is a diet food that fat people flocked to for a time. Smoothie shops selling sugary juices and smoothies are diet foods. Those 700 calorie salads are diet foods. XYZ fad-of-the-week diets and foods that we forgot about ages ago in the Americas and Europe are doing their rounds. If something is "natural" it is touted as healthy, like dates. One local shop on Facebook was selling "healthy" sweets made from dates, saying they were good for diabetics. Dates are 80% sugar by weight.

Gyms are a dime-a-dozen as the middle-class shifts from obese to less-obese. Gyms are of all varieties, from hole-in-the-wall free-weight gyms (one I went to look at was 500 rupees, or $8 USD per year), to super fancy ones with all-imported stuff and all sorts of fitness classes. Women are very under-represented in the gyms though, and that's probably due to feeling too weird being surrounded by a ton of young guys. The gyms I've been to have very strict policies about NO PHONE, probably because of guys taking photos. The guys all arm exercises. Many Indian men have those itty-bitty genetically scrawny calves that are the size of most people's wrists, and tend to skip leg day always. One guy in my gym is only biceps and nothing else. He just pumps his 'ceps and leaves, and it's the only part of him that isn't scrawny.
Still, I see arms here or guys with muscles every single day, and in ways that I only saw once or twice in my entire year in China. It might be the whole "beans and milk products" at every meal thing, but without following all that strict TCM garbage and Chinese diet or the gorging on meat, Indians put on muscle way better than Chinese. The owner of my gym is pure veg, like many of his clients, and just eats tons of milk and beans. The dude is huge without being fat, and his arms are as big as my head.

I had a friend that was studying ayurveda. I read one of the books he had and a lot of it was like "eh," but not as weird as TCM. Instead of 2 things needing to be balanced it was 3. It had a lot to do with semen retention. Foods were classified by how they affected the mental and spiritual energy, rather than just "good for lungs."

Many sects of Hinduism see garlic and onions as foul, and they can't be offered in the temple or cooked for the gods. Foods, actions, and people are divided into tama-gun (darkness, ignorance), raja-gun (energetic, passion, fire), and sattva-gun (goodness, religious, pure, etc). Garlic and onions fall into tamasic, so they are considered ignorant and stinky. Ayurveda uses this classification (which actually comes from the Bhagavad Gita) to divide foods as well.

quote:

Tamasic items include meat, alcohol, tobacco, onions, garlic, fermented foods, such as vinegar, and stale left over food, contaminated or overripe substances. Overeating is also regarded as tamasic. Tamasic is the unhealthiest food of all.

FillInTheBlank posted:

Please post pictures of your local cows.
I would, but they are always roving around. They move at night because people dump their daily vegetable and food scraps outside their doors and the cows go from house to house to clean it up. I could get a photo of any cows, though.
I was biking home tonight at about 23:30 and had to wait for about 10 moos to pass. I am terrified to be gored by them so now I always make sure to give them a strong right-of-way. They still parted for me as I waited, being as courteous as street animals could be. The Holstein was with them, but I didn't want to draw more attention to myself when surrounded by 5-tons of horned animal.

Wamdoodle posted:

Miss Mongolia getting my horses running :pervert:
Never again! No Mongols for me. I can't even.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Bwahahahaahaha.

That'll show those American bastards! They gonna build a statue of the moon next?

So now when Haier goes new one night lay hunting he will be reminded of the glories of China having a 5000 year old culture.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

big time bisexual posted:

here's the story of the first private car purchased in beijing, circa april 1984

what was reported:



what actually happened:



refreshing to see attitudes, values and culture haven't changed at all in the past 33 years

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Wamdoodle posted:

Miss Mongolia getting my horses running :pervert:


Her face has to be flat like a salt lake. Her eyes have to be narrow. Evil spirits dive into big eyes, and she will go mad...seeing things that aren't there. And most important: Don't forget to look at her legs. A woman has to have strong legs to make a man happy. Understand?

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

VideoTapir posted:

Her face has to be flat like a salt lake. Her eyes have to be narrow. Evil spirits dive into big eyes, and she will go mad...seeing things that aren't there. And most important: Don't forget to look at her legs. A woman has to have strong legs to make a man happy. Understand?
I used this quote on my ex-Mongol because her legs were strong, but she said all the Chinese men hate her legs and she feels like a freak. She had thighs and a good butt, but those two things don't really exist in southern China. Even the women scoff at photos of the effects of squats on the legs and butt, and call it all "fat." A girl can go to a gym for years, but the last thing she'll do is pick up anything with weight.

That was a p good movie, though.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
Indian TCM sounds exactly as bad as Chinese TCM

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Darkest Auer posted:

Indian TCM sounds exactly as bad as Chinese TCM

in terms of how likely it is to affect a specific disease it pretty much is. there's some effective treatments but most of it won't do anything. the difference is the cultural attitude toward it. in china, TCM is regarded by a disturbing amount of the population as at least equal to and frequently better than evidence based allopathic medicine. in india, it's mostly seen as 'better than a swift kick in the rear end'.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
My GF, who came to the US from Beijing when she was a child, has had some acne flair up after the pharmacy+health insurance changed the generic BC she was getting.

This has resulted in her mother insisting she see a local TCM doctor. She refused, but eventually her mother called the "doctor", made some appointment, and then said she would pay for it. So, to prevent an argument she goes along with it.

Cut to the consultation, the TCM doc "measures her pulse" and tells her that "she has a lot of heat" in her abdomen that needs to be "cooled down". He then prescribes her a poo poo ton of herbal supplements to take, at an outrageous volume. Two bottles she's supposed to take 10 pills each, after each meal, and another bottle of pills which he says he makes himself, she was supposed to take 5-10 after each meal. I think she was told, ultimately to take something like 40-50 of these pills a day.

After looking at the bottles, and talking to her mom, we find that they are all laxatives of some form or another.

Honestly I was more worried that he was going to somehow give her antibiotics and muscle relaxers, based on what I've read in this thread.

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

MetaJew posted:

My GF, who came to the US from Beijing when she was a child, has had some acne flair up after the pharmacy+health insurance changed the generic BC she was getting.

This has resulted in her mother insisting she see a local TCM doctor. She refused, but eventually her mother called the "doctor", made some appointment, and then said she would pay for it. So, to prevent an argument she goes along with it.

Cut to the consultation, the TCM doc "measures her pulse" and tells her that "she has a lot of heat" in her abdomen that needs to be "cooled down". He then prescribes her a poo poo ton of herbal supplements to take, at an outrageous volume. Two bottles she's supposed to take 10 pills each, after each meal, and another bottle of pills which he says he makes himself, she was supposed to take 5-10 after each meal. I think she was told, ultimately to take something like 40-50 of these pills a day.

After looking at the bottles, and talking to her mom, we find that they are all laxatives of some form or another.

Honestly I was more worried that he was going to somehow give her antibiotics and muscle relaxers, based on what I've read in this thread.

You shouldn't have intervened, the results would have been hilarious.

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