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Handsome Ralph posted:https://twitter.com/noonanjo/status/913053252681428994 On a related note: https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/913088395286597633
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I wonder if Donnie has ever tried to subtly hold a grocery bag up to someone's face when trying to decide if he's going to do something that might benefit them.
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Sep 27, 2017 19:20
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Casimir Radon posted:I wonder if Donnie has ever tried to subtly hold a grocery bag up to someone's face when trying to decide if he's going to do something that might benefit them. lol at him being "subtle" about it
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Sep 27, 2017 20:08
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#1 Puerto Rico aid problem right now appears to be no truck drivers to move the supplies out of the port. https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/913088574983168000
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First major polling on the NFL stuff, HuffPo/YouGov. Sort of sounds like people are thinking. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59cbe8dfe4b05063fe0e933f quote:Those polled say, 48 percent to 36 percent, that it’s inappropriate for NFL players to kneel in protest during the national anthem. Among those who find it inappropriate, 8 percent think the players should find a different way to protest during games, 76 percent that they should only protest in private life, and 13 percent that they should not protest at all.
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facialimpediment posted:#1 Puerto Rico aid problem right now appears to be no truck drivers to move the supplies out of the port. they should ship puerto rican truck drives to puerto rico from their american diaspora
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FAUXTON posted:Spain definitely shares a good part of the blame since they financed Columbus and St. Augustine predates Jamestown by quite a bit. But Denmark and/or Norway discovered North America centuries earlier... You know what, lets just sue Leif Eriksons descendents.
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facialimpediment posted:First major polling on the NFL stuff, HuffPo/YouGov. Sort of sounds like people are thinking. Listening to talk radio yesterday, conservative radio host made an alright point that then spiraled into dumb to the tune of "You see everyone was raised to think of the flag differently, if you're a pinko liberal from California you probably where raised to think the flag represents opportunity and fairness for all, where as if you where raised as say a conservative from Oklahoma you where probably raised to think the flag represents the sacrifices of are troops, and because you where raised that way you are gonna look at the other side of the argument as idiots. This is a lot like the confederate statues thing, if you where raised to look at a statue of Robert E. Lee and your parents tell you that is an american hero, you're gonna be real pissed when someone try's to take the statue down. The other side doesn't hate america, it just wasn't raised the same way." A nice sentiment, but Robert E Lee, American Hero is all sorts of 
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Sep 27, 2017 20:47
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Zeroisanumber posted:lol at him being "subtle" about it
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KildarX posted:Listening to talk radio yesterday, conservative radio host made an alright point that then spiraled into dumb to the tune of Well Benedict Arnold was a much bigger American hero than Lee, if you think about it...Lee was a traitor, what part of that do they not get.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:06
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KildarX posted:Listening to talk radio yesterday, conservative radio host made an alright point that then spiraled into dumb to the tune of Plenty of southerners wouldn't be around today if not for Lee's leadership, which probably affects their opinion of him. Then again, if a less competent general led the south, maybe they would've surrendered sooner and lost fewer overall?
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Sep 27, 2017 21:12
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Zeris posted:
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KildarX posted:Listening to talk radio yesterday, conservative radio host made an alright point that then spiraled into dumb to the tune of Without him our military cemeteries wouldn't be nearly as big and impressive as they currently are. 
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Zeris posted:Plenty of southerners wouldn't be around today if not for Lee's leadership, which probably affects their opinion of him. If it wasn't for Lee, Meade probably wouldn't have that bangin' statue in DC.
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Zeris posted:Plenty of southerners wouldn't be around today if not for Lee's leadership, which probably affects their opinion of him. Lee was certainly not afraid to get his troops killed. This is one of the big problems at the start of the war, the generals on the union side of the eastern front were afraid to take losses while lee wasn't afraid of a big ol' bloody fight
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Slim Pickens posted:The fuckin replies, man Yes No Yes No Yes Yes No No No
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Scott Pruitt, EPA head, wants to spend $25k of your money so he won't have to listen to you. or, Pruitt spends $25,000 on "NANANANANA, I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU" machine. He sorta looks like a chunky Maxwell Smart
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joat mon posted:Scott Pruitt, EPA head, wants to spend $25k of your money so he won't have to listen to you. spending money on poo poo like this should go like this:  "I want to spend $25k on this" "Is it absolutely essential to your ability to do your job?" "No"# "Okay, $25k to Puerto Rico then."#Not the actual answer that would be given.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:23
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Lee was actually pretty drat incompetent. Remembering him as a legit general is part of the myth
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joat mon posted:Scott Pruitt, EPA head This just came out, he's a private/military jet motherfucker too. $20k for a flight from Cincinnati to New York on an Air Force jet. A trip on July 27 to Oklahoma cost $14,285.71. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cabinet-officials-under-fire-costly-flights/
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Sep 27, 2017 23:37
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And yet the government complained when I took premium economy to Colorado a few years ago.
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FastestGunAlive posted:Lee was actually pretty drat incompetent. Remembering him as a legit general is part of the myth Eh, he made some bad errors, but there was a reason why the war lasted four years.
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Yea, the union was even more incompetent but they actually learned and improved. Dude refused to go take command of the west when that theater was about to be lost: he only cared about Virginia. He couldn't keep his generals under control, or even his own men.
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FastestGunAlive posted:Yea, the union was even more incompetent but they actually learned and improved. Dude refused to go take command of the west when that theater was about to be lost: he only cared about Virginia. He couldn't keep his generals under control, or even his own men. Ehh, that's actually fairly consistent. Lee didn't give a poo poo about the southern cause until Virginia joined in.
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These tools have students putting out tables on the regular at my school with equally cringeworthy signs. I imagine it's probably some lovely far right funded astroturf group.
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FastestGunAlive posted:Yea, the union was even more incompetent but they actually learned and improved. Dude refused to go take command of the west when that theater was about to be lost: he only cared about Virginia. He couldn't keep his generals under control, or even his own men. The fact that he commanded any discipline among the other Southern generals was quite the mark of leadership when you consider the entire M.O. of the South was that states were independent entities. Each state had its own army, which they soon realized was not the way to fight a war. The Confederacy was kind of a bastardized misnomer from the start. Lee was the star of the Mexican War, and the guy Lincoln and the War department wanted.
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but is the difference so great that it overrides the simalarities, that both footballers and the military are used by exceptionally powerful white guys to grab lots of money at the expense of their bodies?
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that money pays for your freedom. freedom ain't free, friend.
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:that money pays for your freedom. what does $1.09 get me these days after being adjusted for inflation?
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:that money pays for your freedom.  pithy post withdrawn.
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Wouldn't the military be a leftist organization compared to the NFL anyways? loving people.
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facialimpediment posted:First major polling on the NFL stuff, HuffPo/YouGov. Sort of sounds like people are thinking. I can't recall the last time the public exceeded my expectations.
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Mr. Mambold posted:The fact that he commanded any discipline among the other Southern generals was quite the mark of leadership when you consider the entire M.O. of the South was that states were independent entities. Each state had its own army, which they soon realized was not the way to fight a war. The Confederacy was kind of a bastardized misnomer from the start. Lee was the star of the Mexican War, and the guy Lincoln and the War department wanted. He didn't so much lead them as he did direct and suggest. He was very hesitant to be direct and was too hands off. He often gave very broad guidance and stepped away, expecting his generals to plan the details together. Which, did not work out well given the independent streak you mention. Im not saying he is the worst general ever or even the worst confederate general; the confederacy could have done far worse for a head general but the union could have done far better (they did)
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DoktorLoken posted:These tools have students putting out tables on the regular at my school with equally cringeworthy signs. I imagine it's probably some lovely far right funded astroturf group. https://twitter.com/charliekirk11 
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The last thing a drunk sorority girl sees.
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FastestGunAlive posted:He didn't so much lead them as he did direct and suggest. He was very hesitant to be direct and was too hands off. He often gave very broad guidance and stepped away, expecting his generals to plan the details together. Which, did not work out well given the independent streak you mention. Im not saying he is the worst general ever or even the worst confederate general; the confederacy could have done far worse for a head general but the union could have done far better (they did) Counterpoint: Lee was a highly intelligent and aggressive general who was an expert at identifying the psychology of his opponent, and only very rarely made truly disastrous decisions (Picket's Charge). He was hands off, but that was because he knew how to delegate to his typically subordinates, particularly Stonewall Jackson and Longstreet (Though obviously this was far less effective after Jackson died and Longstreet was transfered west). To put it bluntly: A mediocre general does not win Chancellorsville. Hell, a merely good general doesn't win Chancellorsville. And Lee didn't just win-he inflicted one of the most crushing military victories of all time on Joe Hooker. That, in spite of everything else, says a hell of a lot for his ability.
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