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epic Kingdom Hearts LP posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz2Z6hN5YBs Inquisitor 
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That looks sick, what's inquisitor's deal supposed to be? I remember some sort of dual pistol specialization but I don't actually know.
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Sep 18, 2017 21:24
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Grimtools is updated with the 2 new classes if you want to plan ahead. Also I'm pretty pumped.watho posted:That looks sick, what's inquisitor's deal supposed to be? I remember some sort of dual pistol specialization but I don't actually know. Heavy on elemental/tri-elemental/pierce dual-pistol skills and 'seals' which I assume are like the Occultist's Sigil of Consumption. Stokes fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Sep 19, 2017 02:06
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Release date is early october (not yet set in stone) and the two new masteries as well as the new devotions are available for preview on grimtools.com As was expected from the dev stream screenshots, the Inquisitor is a very strong class for both solo and particularly group play, with many viable combinations, whereas the Necromancer is a garbagecannon for everything but pet builds.
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Sep 19, 2017 09:27
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Here's the most obvious melee and ranged builds for Inquisitor. Inquisitor pairs well with Nightblade and Demo because neither has exclusive skills and both have default attack replacers, and you'll want both. (Technically Nightblade doesn't have one, but Shard + the dual wield WPS means it's comparable) Inquisitor + Nightblade melee, featuring 99% enemy cold resist reduction (before your Occultist drops CoF, all of which stacks and can bring negative) and 95% chance to dodge all ranged attacks (this includes almost all AoE attacks) -- 100% if your resident mage runs Shroud of Illusion. http://www.grimtools.com/calc/m23y4EZR Inquisitor + Demolitionist ranged, featuring 82% total WPS of which 62% is AoE. Items are a temporary guess and I assume many will be replaced by new Inquisitor items. 2h chosen over dual wield because it's not clear yet if any 1h weapons will grant the Will of Fate/Vortex of Souls pierce property, which I predict will be bonkers with Fire Strike and Inquisitor WPS. None do currently. http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRvoOZD
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Sep 19, 2017 10:51
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Just looked at the constellations in Grimtools. Screw the new high-end constellations, tbh. The one I'm most excited about? The Quill. Holy crap, that's gonna hella change my Bomberwoman's whole setup, I think.
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Sep 25, 2017 14:14
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Are the Necro summons still temporary?
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Sep 25, 2017 14:24
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They haven't changed in anyway since we all last told you, so yes, the skeletons are temporary but with a summon cooldown lower than their duration. The reason why the devs have done that is the skill can get 6 different skeletons and summons any three of those at once. Also because the skeletons are slow, And you might need them closer?
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Sep 25, 2017 14:34
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ssmagus posted:They haven't changed in anyway since we all last told you, so yes, the skeletons are temporary but with a summon cooldown lower than their duration. The reason why the devs have done that is the skill can get 6 different skeletons and summons any three of those at once. Also because the skeletons are slow, And you might need them closer? I was asking because they kept changing in the prerelease stuff and at one point had an upgrade that made them permanent. Oh well, I won't be grabbing the expansion then 
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Sep 25, 2017 14:38
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Zore posted:Are the Necro summons still temporary? No. They're permanent now.
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Sep 25, 2017 17:52
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Zore posted:Are the Necro summons still temporary? It took me literally 5 seconds to go in Grimtools and check this. If this is the level of self-reliance you'll be bringing to the thread, maybe it's better that you don't get the expansion. For the rest of us.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:00
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Dr_Gee posted:Just looked at the constellations in Grimtools. I really don't feel like looking it up because the constellation UI is garbo, what's it do? Inquisitor looks fun but there's a lot of skills there that look not great, on paper at least. I might give a fire/lightning demo inquisitor build a go, that might be fun.
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Sep 25, 2017 22:56
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I'm not sure I can think of a single tree that is as good at face value as Inquisitor. Word of Renewal is probably the single best (group) buff in the game. Inquisitor's Seal is solid and situationally overpowered (Deathmarked Nightblades). Word of Pain is CoF-light. The two exclusives are both group-friendly. I can't think of a group setup that wouldn't run at least one, preferably two, Inquisitors currently.
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Sep 26, 2017 10:13
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FFFFFF died on the last guy on a Bastion of Chaos run I get like one day every few weeks to play a solid hour argghhgh looking forward to building an extremely gimped cabalist petmans in the expansion
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Sep 26, 2017 10:28
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So this is me faffing about at work and figuring out skills for a cabalist. http://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2my3W2j I haven't looked at the new constellations much or all the new gear, so any advice there would be nice. I'm really just going on what the tooltips say since I haven't watched any of the dev streams, so if something is better/worse than it looks, I don't know. Really just spitballing a cabalist version of my old warlock summoner, who spat out a ton of wisps and bugs from assorted gear and buffed them via occultist. Wanted to get Manipulation but going 50/50 mastery is tough enough, let alone dumping another 13 points into it.
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Sep 27, 2017 19:32
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I'll just throw points wherever and play til I get bored with the character. I look forward to playing all of Normal and about 1/10th of Elite twenty more times.
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Sep 27, 2017 19:36
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Yawgmoth posted:So this is me faffing about at work and figuring out skills for a cabalist. http://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2my3W2j I haven't looked at the new constellations much or all the new gear, so any advice there would be nice. I'm really just going on what the tooltips say since I haven't watched any of the dev streams, so if something is better/worse than it looks, I don't know. Really just spitballing a cabalist version of my old warlock summoner, who spat out a ton of wisps and bugs from assorted gear and buffed them via occultist. Wanted to get Manipulation but going 50/50 mastery is tough enough, let alone dumping another 13 points into it. Aren't you the guy who gave me poo poo for providing you excellent feedback the last time you posted a garbage build? And then proceeded to self-own and disappear from the thread? What the hell are you doing back here? Fix your builds yourself, you still haven't apologized for the last time you "asked for help".
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Sep 28, 2017 07:59
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watho posted:I really don't feel like looking it up because the constellation UI is garbo, what's it do? It's a 4-node elemental constellation that requires 1 green and gives 3/3 green/purple. There hadn't been a great bridge from green to purple prior to this and (I suspect) it'll really help elementalist ranged/caster builds a whole lot. Probably won't need to take something like Hammer on my Bomberwoman just to get those sweet purp points. Elementalist melee will probably go a different route. Here's a hella basic, no-gear non-optimized Bomberperson that's fire/aether oriented: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jaOxN9. Could probably easily do Fire/Lightning and swap in Inquisitor/Shaman instead of Arcanist...or not. Like, it just seems like the tweaks they did to the lower-left of the constellations (Murmur, Wretch, Quill; where I tend to spend most my time) are going to massively support some of my favorite builds. I have a hunch the upper-right of the constellations also got tweaked, too, but I don't spend as much time over there. Also, while a whole lot less experienced with the game than Mash (with 0 multiplayer time), I concur with what they're saying about Inquisitor. poo poo's ridiculous unless you're really trying to avoid all elemental damage...and even then it seems like it still has decent nodes. Dr_Gee fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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Sep 28, 2017 15:15
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The Mash posted:Aren't you the guy who gave me poo poo for providing you excellent feedback the last time you posted a garbage build? And then proceeded to self-own and disappear from the thread? What the hell are you doing back here? Fix your builds yourself, you still haven't apologized for the last time you "asked for help".
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Sep 28, 2017 15:30
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Yawgmoth posted:lol nice meltdown Nice threadshitting, dickweed. Just stop posting. I wasn't the only one who called you out last time you asked for help and then turned around and gave me poo poo for giving you exactly the help you asked for.
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Sep 29, 2017 07:34
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Yawgmoth posted:lol nice meltdown You suck.
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Sep 29, 2017 07:59
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:You suck. ok
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Sep 29, 2017 14:11
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It took me a while to find the info, but for those of us who backed this way back in the day at a high enough tier, apparently expansion keys will be distributed through humble bundle. It doesn't seem to be stickied anywhere on the Grim Dawn forums. I'd forgotten that the keys were even distributed like that in the first place.
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Sep 29, 2017 15:00
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:You suck. People extending this conversation is making the whole thread suck. If you don't like someone, ignore him. I don't know why 2 month old, barely noticeable drama is worth dredging up to get into an absurd, childish discussion of who is and who isn't allowed to post in the thread. Edit: To at least keep this partly relevant so I can pretend like I'm not being part of the problem, depending on itemization, I'm looking forward to playing a vitality decay death knight, using the new necro skills and vitality conversion with transmuted blade sweep to make a new type of tanky, DoT based, mixed range fighter/mage -- overall my favorite character type in Grim Dawn. Heithinn Grasida fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 29, 2017 |
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Sep 29, 2017 15:17
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Heithinn Grasida posted:Edit: To at least keep this partly relevant so I can pretend like I'm not being part of the problem, depending on itemization, I'm looking forward to playing a vitality decay death knight, using the new necro skills and vitality conversion with transmuted blade sweep to make a new type of tanky, DoT based, mixed range fighter/mage -- overall my favorite character type in Grim Dawn. I'm also curious about this type of build. Pet builds aren't really my thing, but it looks like there are other options in the necro tree. Haven't dug into it much (frankly haven't played GD in months, been waiting for the expansion), hopefully it pans out.
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Just checked Humble to see if I was getting the expansion but only bought the alpha/beta tier. Oh well they were gonna get my money either way. Apparently I was meant to get the hat/coat/beer goodies, which was unexpected. Edit: found it wooo Chubby Henparty fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 29, 2017 |
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Sep 29, 2017 15:59
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Heithinn Grasida posted:People extending this conversation is making the whole thread suck. If you don't like someone, ignore him. I don't know why 2 month old, barely noticeable drama is worth dredging up to get into an absurd, childish discussion of who is and who isn't allowed to post in the thread. Heithinn Grasida posted:Edit: To at least keep this partly relevant so I can pretend like I'm not being part of the problem, depending on itemization, I'm looking forward to playing a vitality decay death knight, using the new necro skills and vitality conversion with transmuted blade sweep to make a new type of tanky, DoT based, mixed range fighter/mage -- overall my favorite character type in Grim Dawn.
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Sep 29, 2017 21:02
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Yawgmoth posted:This sounds pretty fun and a bit like what I do with my blademaster but with less charging about the world. Wanna drop a grimtools link and we can discuss it? Vitality Decay Death Knight This is just a very basic concept of the build with no devotions. I don't know what kind of gear will support it, whether there will be anything that supports bleed + vitality decay which could push the build in a different direction, or whether vitality decay is even a worthwhile concept in the expansion at all. One major weakness is that there is no real devotion proc that supports the build other than the new tier 3 devotion with -vitality resistance. Compared with a poison witchblade, which has fairly weak gear support, but can get massive poison explosions from Abomination, this build might really lack ways to apply vitality decay other than directly from its skills, which might not be enough. I stopped at 32 Soldier, but I'm not sure if maxing Soul Harvest is worth it. I could leave it at one point and squeeze a few points into Scars of Battle instead, which might be better. Also not sure whether the massive single target vitality decay from Reap Spirit would be worth considering in spite of the fact that the aether damage and summon would likely be useless.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:People extending this conversation is making the whole thread suck. If you don't like someone, ignore him. I don't know why 2 month old, barely noticeable drama is worth dredging up to get into an absurd, childish discussion of who is and who isn't allowed to post in the thread. It was literally only me extending it, I just didn't want The Mash to feel like he was standing on his own. People acting like assholes should be called out on it. I insulted someone for making GBS threads on the most helpful poster in the entire thread, I regret nothing. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 07:31
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I always found that it barely mattered what you "specced into" as far as class goes, because your build is more determined by what equipment you put on. Similarly, Constellations (available to every class) always seemed to have a greater effect than the base class skill trees, as well. Therefore...the best choice is to choose two classes that give you the class name you want. IE: Necromancer-Inquisitor is going to be the best combination in the expansion because then you're called an "Apostate" http://www.grimdawn.com/guide/character/masteries.php
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Sep 30, 2017 11:26
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mash isn't much better for spazzing out up there months after the fact.
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I wanted to play this game some again, but I'll guess I'll wait for the expansion since it's less than a month out. Would necro be worth including on a poison build? Occultist/Necro I guess. Poison caster is the next thing I want to try.Half-wit posted:I always found that it barely mattered what you "specced into" as far as class goes, because your build is more determined by what equipment you put on. Occultist/Inquisitor is "Deceiver" which is pretty good.
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I'm honestly just looking forward to being able to dual-wield pistols without waiting til level 20 or 25.
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Sep 30, 2017 15:18
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docbeard posted:I'm honestly just looking forward to being able to dual-wield pistols without waiting til level 20 or 25. Did they change the mechanics of dual pistol firing any? I mean, can the new class actually fire two shots at once or is it still that annoying stutter-shot?
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Sep 30, 2017 16:47
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baram. posted:mash isn't much better for spazzing out up there months after the fact. mostly it just looks like two assholes being assholes to each other in an otherwise dead thread
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Sep 30, 2017 23:47
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Steam has been updated with the expansion achievements.
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baram. posted:mash isn't much better for spazzing out up there months after the fact. I was literally two thirds way through typing up a thorough response to his question when I realized he was the guy who gave me poo poo the last time I did exactly that, and as long as I'm the only person in the thread giving feedback on endgame builds, I reserve the right to call out shitheads for what they are SolidSnakesBandana posted:It was literally only me extending it, I just didn't want The Mash to feel like he was standing on his own. People acting like assholes should be called out on it. I insulted someone for making GBS threads on the most helpful poster in the entire thread, I regret nothing. Thanks, appreciated 
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Oct 1, 2017 12:34
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Stokes posted:Steam has been updated with the expansion achievements. B...but...how do I get the achievements if the expansion isn't out yet?
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Half-wit posted:IE: Necromancer-Inquisitor is going to be the best combination in the expansion because then you're called an "Apostate" :anderswasrightfuckthechantry: e; Fintilgin posted:It took me a while to find the info, but for those of us who backed this way back in the day at a high enough tier, apparently expansion keys will be distributed through humble bundle. It doesn't seem to be stickied anywhere on the Grim Dawn forums. Oh gently caress I forgot I'd even backed. Do you recall what the needed amount for this is? I backed a fairly high sum IIRC and I'll be as happy as a pig in shite if I get AoM for no further money.
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Mister Adequate posted::anderswasrightfuckthechantry: I think I backed at $58 which was sufficient, but you should be able to just log into kickstarter and check your old pledge.
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