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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Lastgirl posted:

these obamacare references are so fkn abstract

its scrweing with my mynd m8 :psyboom:

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Reality Winner posted:

America would be good if barry could dissolve congress until they found one that worked

he would have dissolved congress until he got one capable of passing a grand bargain and then stopped

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Baloogan posted:

i can't believe how they hosed it up so badly.

arararararar

yes please god drat it i want to watch modern military equipment destroy fantasy creatures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5-hthd39wM

you can tell the animators were digging it, but the character design and plot is so bad

oh wow an anime had a bad plot???????

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
I can't wait to be killed by a spider tank and/or titty-bot.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/AP_NFL/status/913193549331435521

we've come Full Circle

many of my friends are troops

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Yinlock posted:

also that one monologue in GATE where a general is like "if we're not careful japan may commit a war crime, for the first time ever" which still cracks me up

how kawaii desu~~~ of them

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
yeah

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Baloogan posted:

i can't believe how they hosed it up so badly.

arararararar

yes please god drat it i want to watch modern military equipment destroy fantasy creatures

you can tell the animators were digging it, but the character design and plot is so bad

if it was just more stuff like dudes with rocket launchers vs a fuckin dragon then it would be the greatest

but alas

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Epic High Five posted:

Is there a party that Abe is underestimating the support of like with Labour and Abe is winding himself up for a cucking?

Or is this a savvy move to streamline war preparations

politics in japan is so :matters: it would make this thread blush.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


mm-hmm

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
i got an appointment on friday morning to go get new glasses

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

yer braking mah heart Replacenikan

Repealmidala, I... the careforce, it was not strong in me...

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
i made a great beef stew tonight

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice



*takes a knee*

m8...

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
i'm glad hugh hefner is dead

zakkro
May 29, 2015


https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
face/off reference

GrimGypsy
Mar 27, 2007

lol I might be moving to asia in a year or less so I'm glad things are gonna be real exciting

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
asia is incredibly large so saying you're moving to asia doesn't mean poo poo

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Baloogan posted:

i made a great beef stew tonight

that sounds good right now Baloogan

i add lots of Worcestershire to mine

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

ScrubLeague posted:

i'm glad hugh hefner is dead

does #woke porn exist??

afaf

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



can somebody shove this dick into a toilet or something please

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
oh gently caress thats whats missing

its still needs like, another hour and a half in the slow cucker but i just had a bowl to figure out what to spice it with and it was already p good

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
the rice is still a bit 'al dante' and it needs to be more 'lol nothing matters'

GrimGypsy
Mar 27, 2007

ScrubLeague posted:

asia is incredibly large so saying you're moving to asia doesn't mean poo poo

probably a coastal chinese city, small chance of japan

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!



:matters:

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

GrimGypsy posted:

probably a coastal chinese city, small chance of japan

those places don't exist

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Baloogan posted:

i can't believe how they hosed it up so badly.

arararararar

yes please god drat it i want to watch modern military equipment destroy fantasy creatures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5-hthd39wM

you can tell the animators were digging it, but the character design and plot is so bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfKPlfU1X08

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

GrimGypsy posted:

probably a coastal chinese city, small chance of japan

what is, the next thing to be destroyed? alex

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Guy Goodbody posted:

I heard a reveiw of the movie, the twist is the guy who says he wants peace actually wants war, right?

Well, sort of.

Ares is the guy advocating peace, but only to amplify the panic when that expected peace is shattered. He is not revealed to be the god of war; he is revealed to be the god of war profiteering. He is meant to symbolize the hidden evil that enables peak villainy, then solemnly sends heroes (armed with more of his weaponry) to reestablish order.

The movie is, on the surface, about World War I, but it begins at the tail end of said war. On close review, it is not about World War I at all; it is instead an indictment of American, French, German, and British capitalists for enabling the rise of fascism in Germany.

Ares disguises himself as British Lord who, under auspice of armistice, travels to Germany. He is actually there to ensure the bombing of London with a deadly gas. This bombing was planned by Ludendorff, who Wonder Woman initially thinks is Ares -- until she kills him and the war rages on. Chris Pine speculates that this is because war has nothing to do with Ares, but his argument is proven wrong. When she spares the other fanatic, Maru, and instead kills Ares (war profiteering), the war comes to an immediate end.

Ludendorff, by the way, was an actual German General. In real life though, he didn't die in 1918.

In 1917, a full year prior to the events in the film, the German Reichstag had voted in favor of an armistice that would allow Germany to claim victory in a defensive war and keep their borders intact. These were terms the Entente would have almost certainly accepted. Ludendorff, though, was furious. He successfully lobbied to have the Chancellor removed, and bullied the representatives into funding the war indefinitely.

Ludendorff argued that Germany needed to have expanded borders for defense against future aggression. In reality, he was steered to this conclusion. War profiteers in his orbit were hungry for French minerals in the resource-rich border regions. They had already succeeded in pushing him to modify Brest-Litovsk and the Romanian armistice to line their pockets, and still they were not satiated.

As a result, Germany fought on with no hope of securing victory. Ludendorff, a man who had never been one to lie to his own soldiers, suddenly began distributing false propaganda about America and Britain's "weak position". His fanaticism would end up losing Germany even the mineral-rich region they had taken from France a half-century prior, Alsace-Lorraine. Ludendorff was eventually removed by the Kaiser and a new nobleman Chancellor because he was a roadblock to any realistic path to peace. Both these men were from old nobility, and thus were both aware of the wiles of the profiteers, and too respectful of the lives of the German people, to engage in artificially extending the conflict themselves.

When the war was lost, Ludendorff could have blamed himself. He could have also blamed the industrial profiteers who pushed him to rebuke armistices time and again. Since he was anti-Semitic from jump, though, these specific industrialists were obviously not Jewish.

What he did instead was work through his trauma by creating the stabbed-in-the-back myth. He also blamed the social democrats, who were forced to sign a terrible agreement solely because he himself had blocked their prior armistice. His industrialist friends were not an option, but he was more than willing to blame all the other profiteers -- especially those he was already bigoted against. Soon enough, he was close friends with Adolf himself.

In Ludendorff's post-war memoirs, he accurately proclaimed,

quote:

In twenty years' time, the German people will curse the parties who now boast of having made the Revolution."


He went on to participate in the Kapp Putsch, then the Beer Hall Putsch. During the latter, Hitler proclaimed Ludendorff would lead the Nazi army.

As the Putsch marched on the capitol, the following d e c o r u m occured:

quote:

Ludendorff and his adjutant Major Streck marched to the police line where they pushed aside the rifle barrels. He was respectfully arrested. He was indignant when sent home while the other leaders remained in custody. Four police officers and 16 Nazis had been killed, including Ludendorff’s servant.

In 1924, he was elected to the Reichstag. In 1925 he stood for Chancellor against his friend Hindenberg, and he couldn't handle losing that election. A Berlin paper's 1925 above-fold ran with a now-even-more-awkward headline:

quote:

Ludendorff's hate tirades against Hindenburg - Poisonous gas from Hitler's camp

Ludendorff, however, was so absurd a character that even Hitler could not remain his ally once he rose to power. Ludendorff's sin, according to Hitler? He bought into too many conspiracy theories. Turns out, some of them may have been on point.

Ludendorff's 1933 telegram to Hindenberg is hard to source, but it can be found in contemporaneous books. Meanwhile, the only people I could find dismissing it as a forgery were internet neonazis. Seems like a confirmation to me! It purportedly read:

quote:

"Through the nomination of Hitler as Reich Chancellor, you have delivered our holy German Fatherland to one of the greatest demagogues of all time. I prophesy to you solemnly that this unholy man will plunge our realm into the abyss and bring our nation into unimaginable misery. Coming generations will curse you in your grave because of this action".

Ludendorff finally died in 1937. In one of Hitler's most Trumpian moves ever, and that says a lot,

quote:

He was given — against his explicit wishes — a state funeral organized and attended by Hitler, who declined to speak at his eulogy.

So when Wonder Woman kills Ludendorff and the war does not stop, the implication is that Ares is meant to symbolize war profiteering, and since there is a ready supply of nationalist zealots in all nations, war can only end with Ares' death.

Solid flick.

Oiled and Ready has issued a correction as of 05:06 on Sep 28, 2017

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
how many rapes do you think hugh hefner did i bet he's over the cosby line

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
oiled and ready more like too long didn't read

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/912776487765463040

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Nichael posted:

can somebody shove this dick into a toilet or something please

americanihsly, with a mouthful of hotdog on my motorized scooter:] ya somebody should get right on that *slurps a big gulp out of my silly straw glasses in a drawn out obnoxious way, then sighs refreshed-like but like in an exuberant way*

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

hell yeah operation paul bunyan 2: ed balls

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Hmm I'm gonna have to play Jackal on NES to prepare for the inevitable ground war

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
rip hugh

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

lucky fucker

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

dumb cuck duck posting fake news lol

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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


many sides

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