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Ghost-Slug posted:I love the Basara designs for taking historical elements and either subverting them like crazy or dialing them up to 11! Shingen Takeda SW: Wisecracking old man with a fondness for cavalry charges. SB: RIDES ON TWO MOTHERFUCKING HORSES AT THE SAME TIME!!! YUKIMURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Dumb Basara 4 Sumeragi question to anyone who knows Japanese: I had a message come up twice when I select the start of the anime route stages for two different characters now (Though I never can get the message to appear again after it initially appears.), and it seems to automatically change my partner character? I can easily change them back, but now I am curious about what that message says.
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Sep 28, 2017 07:26
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Did I once read that Kanetsugu Naoe being such a joke was a dig at Koei because they're all about him or is that just a dumb Internet theory? Either way there's another excellent contrast between versions.
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Sep 28, 2017 08:17
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Sep 28, 2017 16:09
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Tae posted:
But one pant leg, apparently
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Sep 28, 2017 16:19
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Wamdoodle posted:But one pant leg, apparently Tidus fashion.
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Sep 28, 2017 17:04
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Sep 28, 2017 17:13
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That's Yue Ying
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Sep 28, 2017 17:16
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At this point I'm just glad she has a pole arm again after that stupid dart gun bullshit.
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Sep 28, 2017 17:54
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 Cao Xiu, Xun Yu, Zhu Ran, Jiang Wei, Yue Ying, Wen Yang, and Zhuge Dan spotlight. Open World mechanics explored.
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Sep 28, 2017 18:00
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I have a pet affection for this series but I'm just not sure about DW9 still. Hopefully we'll see some tangible video content sooner or later.
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Sep 28, 2017 19:32
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Getting rare weapons in SW4-2 is a pain the arse. It took me 10+ attempts to get Magoichi's.The first attempt made it look like I got the weapon but wasn't awarded it after the battle, some attempts had the mission spawn without the weapon being available as a reward even though I followed the guide, one attempt was ruined by the mission spawning a minute too late, two attempts were ruined by the reward just fading away in the objective text, and the successful attempt made out like I failed but was awarded the weapon anyway (not that I'm complaining about that). It took a few attempts to get Keiji's as well and it made out like the first attempt was successful and gave no reward again. I swear the game is loving with me. Maxing out characters is also way harder than in SW4. I looked at one characters skill board and it takes just shy of 50 special tomes and 180 each of the other types. You're lucky if you get an average of 10 of each type per battle. There are 56 goddamn characters and 61 epiphany skills. They could have at least done something to speed things up for you; exp storage like WO3, unlimited stocks of tomes in the shop, a massive bonus for having a SW4 file. Policenaut posted:Cao Xiu, Xun Yu, Zhu Ran, Jiang Wei, Yue Ying, Wen Yang, and Zhuge Dan spotlight. Open World mechanics explored. No more police brutality from Zhuge Dan:(
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Sep 28, 2017 19:59
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i highlt suggest using a guide if you want the rare weapons, the one i found best is the one on ps trophies. for the tomes, always rush the skill that lets more tomes drop. by the time you have all the other stuff done, you will have enough tomes left over that you can max a bunch of characters. the more xp scrolls skill is essential too. dont forget to buy up all tomes in the shop after every battle
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Sep 28, 2017 20:33
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At least Zhu Ran doesn't have that godawful flame bow any more.
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Maleketh posted:At least Zhu Ran doesn't have that godawful flame bow any more. This is something I'm excited about. I loved his design and wanted to play as him but gently caress playing a bow character.
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PureRok posted:This is something I'm excited about. I loved his design and wanted to play as him but gently caress playing a bow character. I honestly didn't have a problem with most of the bow weapons in DW9, but the flame bow was just so hard to use that it was entirely worthless.
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Sep 28, 2017 22:31
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Lunethex posted:I have a pet affection for this series but I'm just not sure about DW9 still. Hopefully we'll see some tangible video content sooner or later. I've only just gotten into the series, but what I've seen of DW9 still makes me skeptical. Open-world design is one those things that has gotten sort of played out in recent years, with a lot of games utilizing it without really filling the world with substantial content. On the other hand, I'm still curious about how it'll be implemented in the grand scheme of things. The idea of being able to traveling from Luoyang to Chibi and witnessing the Battle of Red Cliffs is interesting compared to just selecting it from a list of stages. The open-world design also seems like it would benefit in depicting the movement of armies through the land and attacking castle and whatnot. That being said, I know it probably won't be as executed in the way I think it will, but I'm stil cautiously optimistic.
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Sep 28, 2017 22:31
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I just want to know why they seem hell bent on getting rid of the fun weapons. I already miss Wang Yi's super-fast stabby needles and Lu Lingqi's pinwheel sword. They're going to come for Liu Shan's naptime bench next, aren't they?
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Sep 28, 2017 23:40
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*In extremely Capcom voice* To high level players it's really more like Function Warriors.
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Sep 28, 2017 23:45
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Probably because they're doing a brand new combat system and I'd guess TK wants to get the basic weapons down pat before they go full retard again by giving everyone fringe case unique poo poo.
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chumbler posted:*In extremely Capcom voice* To high level players it's really more like Function Warriors. ARGHGHGH!
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Sep 28, 2017 23:55
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Yeah, since they revamped the combat, they basically have to re-do all the movesets again and re-tinkering over 80 unique movesets to match the new engine takes time.
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I honestly don't mind too much that they removed all the weapon variety as long as the combat turns out to be actually fun and good. Maybe throw in one unique move per character too, or something.
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Jack Trades posted:I honestly don't mind too much that they removed all the weapon variety as long as the combat turns out to be actually fun and good. Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel about it. It sucks that some of the veterans (i.e. Zhang He) lost their unique weapons but there's a bunch of people who've not even been around for 1 mainline game who lost theirs and I can't even muster any anger over it. I'm sure they'll bring back all the weird, fringe case weapons that only 1 person ever used in later spinoffs and installments (should DW9 be a success) but so long as the game is fun to play I really don't care. I would have been fine with DW6 going full quasi-realism if I didn't hate Renbu so much! Max Wilco posted:I've only just gotten into the series, but what I've seen of DW9 still makes me skeptical. Open-world design is one those things that has gotten sort of played out in recent years, with a lot of games utilizing it without really filling the world with substantial content. There's been a bunch of stuff coming out of TGS, like full 20 minute gameplay demos and such, and it looks interesting. One of the big gimmicks is that you have your big money battles like Hu Lao or Chi Bi but there are lots of tinier battles and events surrounding them you can complete to make those battles easier, so like you could learn about a supply delivery going to Hu Lao and intercept it and then during the Hu Lao fight they may not have as many supplies so their forces aren't as strong for example. The link I posted earlier shows a lot of the smaller things going on, like tiny skirmishes and hunting and exploring cities.
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Policenaut posted:There's been a bunch of stuff coming out of TGS, like full 20 minute gameplay demos and such, and it looks interesting. One of the big gimmicks is that you have your big money battles like Hu Lao or Chi Bi but there are lots of tinier battles and events surrounding them you can complete to make those battles easier, so like you could learn about a supply delivery going to Hu Lao and intercept it and then during the Hu Lao fight they may not have as many supplies so their forces aren't as strong for example. The link I posted earlier shows a lot of the smaller things going on, like tiny skirmishes and hunting and exploring cities. I watched one of the TGS presentations (the 50 minute one with Xiahou Dun in the first part), and I sort of figured that it worked along those lines. The change to the weapon system I picked up on when I saw you could plant explosive pots and then pull out an bow to shoot them with. I had heard that Xiaohou Yun lost his bow weapon, which made me think that the change was done because him having two bows would be sort of redundant. The new side-content is more what worries me. You could make a drinking game from going through Steam and finding all the games that use exploration/hunting/crafting system. It might be fine, though. It just seem like something that's drastically different from Omega Force's other work.
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Is there still gonna be couch co-op in DW9? My girlfriend and I love playing these games together, it'd be super lame if we can't do that anymore.
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They've ditched splitscreen in most of the games after Samurai Warriors 4, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Death Zebra posted:No more police brutality from Zhuge Dan:( Probably the most hosed up part of all of this.
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Policenaut posted:Probably because they're doing a brand new combat system and I'd guess TK wants to get the basic weapons down pat before they go full retard again by giving everyone fringe case unique poo poo. I'll see them in two games' time then. This is a series that, to me, admittedly not everyone, lives and dies on its character diversity. Consolidating the movesets the way they have, while an entirely understandable move given the ambitious additions they wanted to make, has really put me off. I mean sure, "technically" they have 90 characters or whatever, but functionally speaking they have 18 characters with 5 skins each. Or however many. Even if I didn't enjoy every moveset from 8XL, it was nice having them.
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Epi Lepi posted:Is there still gonna be couch co-op in DW9? My girlfriend and I love playing these games together, it'd be super lame if we can't do that anymore. They already confirmed in some earlier article buried in this thread that they're ditching coop entirely.
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Allarion posted:Yeah, since they revamped the combat, they basically have to re-do all the movesets again and re-tinkering over 80 unique movesets to match the new engine takes time. Heaven forfend they take that time. Much better to do something that will piss off a lot of people, and rightly so, who are frankly astonished that they don't seem to have learned much from DW6.
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Thing is, even DW7 (to say nothing of many of the previous games) shared movesets between characters to a greater or lesser degree. DW6 was neither the first nor the last time.
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Ardryn posted:They already confirmed in some earlier article buried in this thread that they're ditching coop entirely. How can they be this bad
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Davincie posted:i highlt suggest using a guide if you want the rare weapons, the one i found best is the one on ps trophies. for the tomes, always rush the skill that lets more tomes drop. by the time you have all the other stuff done, you will have enough tomes left over that you can max a bunch of characters. the more xp scrolls skill is essential too. dont forget to buy up all tomes in the shop after every battle Thanks for the advice though I was already following most of it aside from beelining the tome skills. Ardryn posted:They already confirmed in some earlier article buried in this thread that they're ditching coop entirely. Welp, that's another argument against buying then. It's a shame
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Explain how couch co-op would have worked in an open world game without running or looking like rear end. Unless they force the players to be on the same screen I don't think the consoles could handle it. They tend to have small amounts of RAM, and the more of the world they have to keep loaded into RAM, the more difficult it becomes to make the game run well. I mean, I understand being upset about it, but it was totally expected. At least, on my part.
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I can think of maybe a few open world games with couch co-op but they're all stuff like Minecraft, Borderlands, and Ark. And considering the way games like Ark already run on PS4 I dread to see what it's like with couch co-op.
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Policenaut posted:I can think of maybe a few open world games with couch co-op but they're all stuff like Minecraft, Borderlands, and Ark. And considering the way games like Ark already run on PS4 I dread to see what it's like with couch co-op. I hear good things about Dying Light.
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I mostly think of dumb fun shooting games like Borderlands or Mercenaries 2. I would totally got for a lower res Co op open world DW game. They could even make the AI extra dumb.
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PureRok posted:Explain how couch co-op would have worked in an open world game without running or looking like rear end. Unless they force the players to be on the same screen I don't think the consoles could handle it. They tend to have small amounts of RAM, and the more of the world they have to keep loaded into RAM, the more difficult it becomes to make the game run well. I did expect it when I heard open world but I also thought "why they gently caress are they doing open world that is dumb as gently caress" and have been hoping it's somehow a bullshit not real version of open world that keeps the only thing I play these games for. Namely, mindless minion killing with my girlfriend.
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Keeshhound posted:You're gonna do all of those and not mention Nobunaga Oda? Late to the party on this, but I somehow never noticed until I played as him last night that SB Oda is also carrying a GIANT SHOTGUN one handed. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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