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Your Taint posted:Doesn't he realize that *not* knowing is pretty much just as bad? How can you be that loving clueless? Is that not the definition of lack of institutional control? I've always questioned the logic behind this argument, but that's what he keeps going with.
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Your Taint posted:Doesn't he realize that *not* knowing is pretty much just as bad? How can you be that loving clueless? Considering he'd already played the "I had no idea what was happening" card he probably shoulda gone with a different approach. But hey he was gonna get fired regardless. I guess just burn it all down with 'lack of institutional control' charges on your way out?
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why does the FBI care if coaches are violating NCAA rules?
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Sinteres posted:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why does the FBI care if coaches are violating NCAA rules? People working for publicly funded orgs taking bribes is what they're going for.
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Sinteres posted:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why does the FBI care if coaches are violating NCAA rules? They were violating federal bribery laws. I'm sure someone else can lay out all the details, but it boils down to Adidas bribing college kids to sign with their agents/teams and assistant coaches being bribed to get kids to sign with sporting agents.
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ch3cooh posted:Employees of Nike EYBL have been subpoenaed. As a fan of a Nike school that suddenly pulled the greatest recruiting class in school history I'm  ing all over the place right now. Although I don't think Mizzou's recruits came from that league possibly?I follow AAU ball in that I know everyone who is good plays it and it's kind of scummy and absolutely nothing else about it.
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Sinteres posted:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why does the FBI care if coaches are violating NCAA rules? One of the charges is listed as "Solicitation of bribes and gratuities by an agent of a federally-funded organization ", so id imagine that would incorporate alot of people in college athletics.
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Add Bama to the list, apparently: their associate AD resigned and they're conducting an internal review of the basketball program.
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They didn't break any laws or rules besides the NCAA's. Those kids are the last people that anyone involved in who wants a chance at not going down should be antagonizing.
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Grittybeard posted:As a fan of a Nike school that suddenly pulled the greatest recruiting class in school history I'm 
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Sep 28, 2017 01:04
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Hahaha, welp.
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So glad NC State cleared house this year now we can just forget how borderline shady Gottfried was and move on with our carefree lives. (Dennis Smith Jr probably was legit since he's a lifelong State fan but goddamn if I'm not sweating it anyway. Also it would be such an NC State poo poo move to cheat and still suck.)
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Grittybeard posted:Hahaha, welp. It helps that the big gets are at least from the area (Porters and Tilmon). It also helps to do a totally legal bribe of hiring dad to be an assistant.
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Sinteres posted:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why does the FBI care if coaches are violating NCAA rules? Also, the Adidas guy was basically committing money laundering and lying on official reports about allocation of funds, which starts getting into SEC territory (the ones with the lawyers, not the conference) I wonder if SDSU is gonna get wrapped up in this, thats where USC hired Tony Bland from and he was already considered one of the best recruiters on the West Coast
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elentar posted:Also it would be such an NC State poo poo move to cheat and still suck.) Eh it's more like they're not as good at cheating as everyone else is. Losing at college sports is almost always a moral victory in that sense.
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Also tax fraud
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This means Baylor has a higher or lower chance of a corn fed beef fed grass grown chicken feed big boy champ this year?
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More good news for Arizona: https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/913209683963297792
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Injuries are always bad of course, but at least that is a position they have depth at.
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kiimo posted:I was about to start listing basketball movies with puns about abortions but I got as far as Scoop Dreams before I questioned what I’m doing with my life right now No need to build on perfection man
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anne frank fanfic posted:This means Baylor has a higher or lower chance of a corn fed beef fed grass grown chicken feed big boy champ this year? Need to see the Hillary emails, they're the missing piece
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I'm just going to ask what's going through all of you good posters' mind and ask how hosed Kansas is going to be at the end of this.
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Probably Magic posted:I'm just going to ask what's going through all of you good posters' mind and ask how hosed Kansas is going to be at the end of this. Either every program in the country is hosed, or a bunch of nobodies are hosed and the blue bloods get away with it since they're better at cheating in this fashion imo.
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imagine if somehow this all results in a Coach K Perp Walk
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Grittybeard posted:Either every program in the country is hosed, or a bunch of nobodies are hosed and the blue bloods get away with it since they're better at cheating in this fashion imo. Poor Cleveland State 
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I don't think Iowa did anything here but I'm still willing to vacate the entire Todd Lickliter era as a good faith gesture
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I sure am glad Syracuse received 4 years probation and vacated 100 victories because a player made $500 at a YMCA over the summer. All while this poo poo was going on all over the country. Bahahah. I'm sure new punishments NCAA will hand down from now on will be comparable.
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Grittybeard posted:Either every program in the country is hosed, or a bunch of nobodies are hosed and the blue bloods get away with it since they're better at cheating in this fashion imo. Well it's always been this "if everyone's cheating ain't no one cheating" mentality that's been more or less encouraged by the NCAA, who doesn't benefit from having their major money-making programs missing the Tournament and being branded as cheaters and losing their reputations and money-making potential. The FBI doesn't give a poo poo about whatever unwritten rules the NCAA has and if they start arresting coaches and admins left and right the NCAA's going to look dumber than they already do on a regular basis. If your rooting interest is in the death of the NCAA and some other system being established, root for the FBI to start flipping dudes and hauling everyone under the sun in. Because if the NCAA's whole system is exposed as rotten to the core then school presidents are either going to have to dump athletics or create a new governing body, and only one of those options keeps the cash flow going. e - christ those two paragraphs are written poorly but it's late and i'm tired so suck it
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You might see some tweets that Greg Sankey had summoned all the SEC basketball coaches to Birmingham tomorrow to lay down the law, but turns out that was a regularly scheduled meeting.
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Even as someone who was at the game where Chuck Person's number got retired I find all this completely hilarious War drat Y'all
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R.D. Mangles posted:imagine if somehow this all results in a Coach K Perp Walk when they try to put the cuffs on he completes his lifelong work of transforming into a screech owl and flies away, scot-free
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Well they hired the Porter kids' dad and paid him a shitload of money above the table, which is something the NCAA allows.
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Grittybeard posted:As a fan of a Nike school that suddenly pulled the greatest recruiting class in school history I'm I mean, I love 'Zo but there was that time he tried to gently caress my sister so anything is possible.
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General Dog posted:Had Mississippi State even been implicated yet? Not sure I trust that source after all. I mean it wouldn't surprise me a bit, but gonna wait.
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CBS reports that Pitino is Coach-2 https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/amid-recruiting-scandal-louisville-coach-rick-pitino-effectively-fired/ WSJ agrees https://www.wsj.com/articles/louisville-fires-mens-basketball-coach-rick-pitino-1506531783 quote:Based on cooperating witnesses, undercover agents and secret wiretaps, one of the complaints alleges that a top Adidas executive worked with sports agencies and financial advisories to bribe high-school recruits into signing with Louisville, which has a lucrative apparel deal with Adidas. Pitino wasn’t charged or identified in the criminal filings, but he appears in the complaint as “Coach-2,” people familiar with the matter said.
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