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Saw this in PYF and started cracking up at the end (watch the whole thing).
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blackguy32 posted:Plus the risk can be high if you get caught. Yeah, but what are the odds you get caught? Unless you stop and park the car first, like cowards.
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# ? Sep 22, 2017 18:32 |
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"I vote for the party of personal responsibility" *Experiences consequences for hate speech* : BUH BUH BUH NO FAIR Side note, I'm super racist about the relative cuteness of children, white kids almost all look like a mistake happened when trying to cook oatmeal in bulk while brushing the cat.
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# ? Sep 22, 2017 19:45 |
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I think it's easier for whites to move out because they have an easier time finding a occupation that generates wealth and they have family with wealth to fall upon in hard times. Black people have neither since we are not hired as often, have next to no black businesses to turn to and our parents and families have squandered any opportunity to create wealth.
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# ? Sep 22, 2017 22:51 |
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The deck is pretty stacked against. Just to name a few 'minor' challenges: Harder to get a good education Harder to get into (and afford) college Harder to get a place of their own Harder to get a loan Harder to get hired
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# ? Sep 22, 2017 22:56 |
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Taerkar posted:The deck is pretty stacked against. Just to name a few 'minor' challenges: Harder to avoid getting unjustly imprisoned and having a rap sheet following you around for the rest of your life Harder to avoid getting murdered by police Edit: speaking of police brutality and excessive force: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...0e1bd9ebee.html I wonder if GFSincere/Negromancer is involved in any of the protesting there; IIRC he was one of the Ferguson protesters from the previous round of unheard people airing their greivances there. Militant Lesbian fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Sep 23, 2017 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Aren't we like the only country that really emphasizes moving out of your house at 18?. It’s an old cliche but not really a thing that happens in the US any more. It’s almost impossible to move out at 18 unless you want like three roommates and if you’re going to do that you might as well live at home. I have friends of all backgrounds and none of them moved out at 18 unless it was to go to college and they all lived with their parents for at least a year after they graduated. I moved out when I was 23 and had a stable enough job. I rented a place with my brother for a few years until I was earning enough to get an apartment of my own. My parents didn’t mind as long as we helped with things and none of my friend’s parents minded either. This was over ten years ago.
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# ? Sep 23, 2017 05:35 |
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sean10mm posted:"I vote for the party of personal responsibility" you can't be racist to white people
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# ? Sep 24, 2017 01:50 |
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stone cold posted:you can't be racist to white people oh thank goodness *scuttles into burrow of white privilege *
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# ? Sep 24, 2017 02:48 |
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Found this interesting tidbit in this article:quote:This transformation began with the Federal Housing Act of 1934, which established the Federal Housing Administration. The FHA originally provided home loans to qualifying (read: white) families during the Great Depression, as part of the New Deal, in an attempt to stabilize the mortgage market. The article is mainly about how land use in the US went from vertical at the beginning of the 20th century to horizontal by the end of it, but it had these interesting insights into some of the causes of white flight and inner city slums of the mid-late 20th century. Shows how the whole 'rising tide lifts all boats' from the Bernie crowd is horseshit, because govt policies enacted to help people in need are almost always applied in an unequal manner that favors whiteness.
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# ? Sep 24, 2017 22:47 |
HotCanadianChick posted:Found this interesting tidbit in this article: That is really interesting! Thank you. I'm gonna have to bookmark that as a source lol.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 01:06 |
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Koalas March posted:That is really interesting! Thank you. I'm gonna have to bookmark that as a source lol. On this topic, someone mentioned the following book in USPol about a year ago: The origins of the urban crisis : race and inequality in postwar Detroit I read a lot of it, and it was pretty eye opening in terms of how redlining and the FHA played out specifically in Detroit, but also argues that this was prototypical of the rest of the rust belt. E: It really lays things out well, like the various race riots (read: white people attacking black people's homes and storefronts, then the cops blaming the black people for it), racist white workers blocking black people from working at factories, the 36-year-serving racist mayor of Dearborn (who literally campaigned on keeping black people out of Dearborn and won by landslides), etc. It's all good stuff to point to when Berniebros go on about the poor white working class of the rust belt. Lead out in cuffs fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Unrelated to the above, some folks from this website were here in PDX for an event today and they sell a zine that so many white liberal (self proclaimed) "allies" need to sit down and read: http://www.archive6.com/zines/everyone-calls-themselves-an-ally-until-it-is-time-to-do-some-real-ally-poo poo
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 07:40 |
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stone cold posted:you can't be racist to white people I really just wanted a pretext to use that turn of phrase.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:On this topic, someone mentioned the following book in USPol about a year ago: I wish more people would learn about Detroit, and even come here. This city is awesome. I know, I know, we have our problems and our abandoned houses and poverty but there is some really great stuff here and the people are amazing and resilient. The Detroit Science Center is great and completely interactive. The African-American history museum is beautiful. There is great street art/graffiti, musicians and food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvg2dDGKgZI
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:44 |
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HotCanadianChick posted:Found this interesting tidbit in this article: A year or two I had a connecting flight in Detroit and I remember looking out the window at the expanse of Detroit as we flew over it. The large grid structure of dilapidated houses and vacant lots was extremely depressing.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:46 |
Taerkar posted:A year or two I had a connecting flight in Detroit and I remember looking out the window at the expanse of Detroit as we flew over it. The large grid structure of dilapidated houses and vacant lots was extremely depressing. haha I live right next to the airport.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:48 |
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Don't remember what direction we approached from but this was when the plane was making the initial approach. Course like I said this was also a year+ so my memory is questionable, but it looked like old style gridwork as far as the eye could see.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 19:51 |
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In the Northeast there's this extremely commonplace idea among liberal/arts/punk scenes that you can buy a house in Detroit for a song, is that still the case or has he gentrification board caught up yet? Or is it a whole other can-of-worms where it's just not that simple?
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:06 |
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Bust Rodd posted:In the Northeast there's this extremely commonplace idea among liberal/arts/punk scenes that you can buy a house in Detroit for a song, is that still the case or has he gentrification board caught up yet? There were homes up for $500~ during the recession, but they were in terribly awful condition and likely burned out. Plus, taxes are actually pretty high on property values in Detroit proper (~68 mils, or 3.4%), which is why a lot were for sale, just to relieve people of the taxes. Got about the same taxes in Ypsi City due to the presence of EMU, and taxes make purchasing a home fairly difficult. Also keep in mind that Detroit is quite large for a city of its population, so while some parts have gentrified, vast amounts are still in dire straights. It's 142 sq mi, and the lately gentrified areas are 7.2 sq mi of that. And the population density is really low, 5000/sq mi, compared to Manhattan's 72,000. Lot of empty space.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:20 |
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I've heard all that unoccupied space opens up the potential to reverse a lot of previous sprawl that has plagued many cities in the present day. Building of green spaces, parks, gardens/farms, and so forth. Unfortunately this probably also costs money and public involvement of people that might have little currently invested in it. But I'm sure posters that actually live in Detroit are probably more keen on this than I am.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:23 |
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https://twitter.com/undisputed/status/912327330579677184 In everyone's rush for unity against Trump for calling players SOBs, many have largely ignored what Kaepernick was protesting in the first place.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:31 |
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Bust Rodd posted:In the Northeast there's this extremely commonplace idea among liberal/arts/punk scenes that you can buy a house in Detroit for a song, is that still the case or has he gentrification board caught up yet? Last time I was in Detroit was for a community bike shop conference, and I stayed in a place like this. The person owning it was working two jobs, and didn't have a lot of time to do all the work on the house they wanted to. And the house needed a lot of work. On that street there were also more vacant lots than standing houses, and I actually saw a wild pheasant roaming around. To bring this back on topic, though: Detroit is pretty awesome, but one of the biggest worries is how the gentrification proceeds. The reason all those neighbourhoods are empty is because of a long history of racism keeping black people down, followed by white people moving out so they don't have to live next to black people, and taking their money with them. Gentrification has a very high chance of driving out people who are already some of the most marginalised in the country.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 21:40 |
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Also, new info about Milestone coming back
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blackguy32 posted:https://twitter.com/undisputed/status/912327330579677184 This is what I continue to confront people about in regards to NFL players kneeling during the anthem- do they even know WHY they are kneeling in the first place? I'm proud of my brother, who is an Iraq veteran and tells the other Jingoists to gently caress off with their 'honor the flag' bullshit. They'll blather on about how disrespecting the anthem and flag is the same as disrespecting dead servicemembers, and he'll point out to them that he was in Honor Guard for several years and fully supports people who see fit to kneel during the anthem or burn flags.
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# ? Sep 25, 2017 22:03 |
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I'm not going to lie I actually really wouldn't mind moving to Detroit or the outlying areas since I do have a definite appreciation of the area (though there's a lot I haven't done or seen there since I live 3+ hours away so it's not really easy to gently caress around as a day trip or what have you) and it would be better in a lot of ways than the conservative shithole I currently live in. But I don't have money and I don't know what sort of employment I'd be able to find and on and on Really should scope out the African American History Museum since I definitely haven't been there and it would be a nice additional thing to do whenever I head down again for a weekend to watch the Tigers lose (seriously, every loving time I've gone to see them, like clockwork, even in their good years)
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 00:21 |
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sean10mm posted:I really just wanted a pretext to use that turn of phrase. fair
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 00:33 |
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Got to see this guy in concert with Sammus, and I really dig his music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQxXubLTIBw
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 05:07 |
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I see housing talk and I just have to share this:
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 20:11 |
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I wished I took a picture, but my wife and I were shopping at Costco and they had some dolls (can't remember if they were Barbie or knockoffs) but the thing that really gave me pause is that while the box came with a white and black doll, the black doll was just the white doll's features with a darker shade of brown; everything else looked like the little white doll, to the extent it looked almost like blackface to me. It made me realize that I see very few genuinely Black dolls, in terms of hair texture and facial features; more often than not they are just 'palette swapped' versions of white dolls. But even I know that Black people have different hair textures and facial features than white people, and just making a really dark version of a caucasian doll is a rather poor analogue for a Black person.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 22:10 |
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That's what happens in a lot of games with character customization. All the facial features are European but you can put black skin on them. It looks super weird. Though I had a friend that was half german and half black and he basically has a very caucasian facial structure but with dark skin so it also happens in real like.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 23:49 |
Yeah, Rashida Jones looks just like her mom. It's weird, I watched Parks and Rec and Twin Peaks back to back and I couldn't shake it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 23:55 |
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There's the Bratz dolls, I guess?
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 23:59 |
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Ken Burns' Vietnam series had about twenty minutes of tonight's episode (8 of 10) mostly devoted to talking about the African-American and minority experience during the war. I'm certainly not qualified to tell (and it is probably not enough about that particular topic) but it may be interesting for anyone who was around during that time or has family who was around, especially if they didn't talk about it much. It's about as unhappy as can be expected.
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 02:53 |
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https://twitter.com/jelani9/status/913031094806745091 Screwing the white man once more! 😠😠😠
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 21:56 |
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Koalas March posted:I have actually been thinking about starting a sticky for that. A lot of our users are minorities or other groups that statistically are having a tough time due to society's institutional prejudices. Maybe a patreon account in Koala March's name, that she is responsible for distributing as she sees fit? I'd find it easier to contribute a few dollars a month than a lump sum all at once. I know that oversight on these things is tough, but I feel like KM has shown enough dedication and honesty that most regulars would trust her. Then if we get somebody who is a long term poster in a rough position (like Fluffdaddy), KM distributes funds. If we reach a certain threshold ($500 or whatever) with no regulars requiring assistance, the money could be donated to an agreed upon charity. Just brainstorming here, but I feel like it has potential.
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# ? Sep 28, 2017 01:09 |
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I think it would be better if people just post their own links. I was in a position of needing to pull funds immediately and waiting would have put me in the streets. Just updating: I am in a car working for Uber still and am job hunting when I am not driving. Still living in the hotel and am hoping I can make enough to get out by the end of the month. Thanks for everyone who has donated. The list is so long I can't even name everyone. I will repost the link since it was pages ago, cause the faster I get into my own place the better I will be. http://paypal.me/mikesherman1082
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# ? Sep 28, 2017 02:38 |
Fluffdaddy posted:I think it would be better if people just post their own links. I was in a position of needing to pull funds immediately and waiting would have put me in the streets. We can do both, honestly? I made the post but I am still working on it. feel free to post your paypal info and what's going on in there.
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# ? Sep 28, 2017 18:05 |
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If anyone else here is in PDX, tomorrow night (Friday the 29th), Don't Shoot PDX is going to have a free screening of the excellent Ferguson protest documentary Whose Streets at 6:30pm: https://pdxactivist.org/events/1618 It's been out for a month or so now, but finding showings in a given city ain't been easy, so I wanted to give a holla in case anyone else here in stumptown might still need to see it (and free-ninety-five is hard to turn down).
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Its good. Try to see it
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