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JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
So, we have a month of Death Guard releases coming up, and then after that...what? There can't be two months of no 40k model releases, right? Have we seen anything or even have strong rumors?

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PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

JoshTheStampede posted:

So, we have a month of Death Guard releases coming up, and then after that...what? There can't be two months of no 40k model releases, right? Have we seen anything or even have strong rumors?

The only rumors AFAIK are those coming out of the Rumor Engine preview pics. Interestingly one theory that I've seen about the most recent one (eagle decoration of some kind) is that it's Dorn's shoulder pauldron. It matches up almost perfectly to the artwork, but it's also a design that's pretty generic for the Imperium.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

chutche2 posted:

Since they need a 5+ to hit normally this means they're only slightly better at hitting the enemy than they are at hitting allies
You know what image that puts in my mind? Dark Heresy acolytes do I get full auto bursts all day every day. I love this mental image.
Just 30 farmboys holding the trigger down with eyes closed, praying to the Emperor and hoping for the best.













And then they're hit by their own artillery.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

chutche2 posted:

Will the conscript changes really make a difference? Changing it to 30 instead of 50 man squads doesn't really stop you from clogging the field with them and commissars.

They were only running them 30-large anyway, and unless Commissars were changed significantly, the pseudo-Fearless blob problem is still there. IMHO, if you add the Valhallan rules and strategems, Codex: Astra Militarum is actually MORE powerful than the Index... not good for balance at all. The already best army is getting better.

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer
It's not even out yet so let's not jump the gun. Conscripts for instance could be further balanced by a points increase and that's not the sort of thing they talk about in these previews.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS
They do talk about price changes, they said russes are cheaper.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
Making orders take on them a 50/50 does help a bit though. And we've (afaik) not seen anything about their cost. They might be a bit more expensive, which together with a points drop on overcosted units, like the confirmed one on Russes might encourage people to at least vary it up a bit.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
Yeah, Russes getting cheaper was kinda :eyepop:

i doubt Conscripts are getting a point cost increase. Makes no sense

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

chutche2 posted:

They do talk about price changes, they said russes are cheaper.

That's a buff. They don't talk about nerfs in the previews.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Have they talked about any price increases?

Also I'm warming up to GSC allies getting an alternate doctrine. I was irritated at first, but honestly that makes more sense.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS

Booley posted:

That's a buff. They don't talk about nerfs in the previews.

Except for the two conscript nerfs they just talked about?

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
I just started AdMech, put some doofy robots together tonight, and now these Guard previews make me want to go back to my giant backlog of Guard tanks.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
i just dunno whether to assemble this big ol' tank as a Stormlord or a Shadowsword. guess i'll have to buy another

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Phyresis posted:

i just dunno whether to assemble this big ol' tank as a Stormlord or a Shadowsword. guess i'll have to buy another
Magnetize it. I found a guide on dakka in the five first search results. Gonna use it for my own that I'm definitely going to be doing at some point. It might even be done before 9th comes out.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

JoshTheStampede posted:

So, we have a month of Death Guard releases coming up, and then after that...what? There can't be two months of no 40k model releases, right? Have we seen anything or even have strong rumors?

November is all the new Necromunda stuff plus the Eldar & Tyranid codexes. I expect CWE will at least get plastic Eldrad is a separate release just like those GK/AdMech did.

Who knows what else there will be. Perhaps they'll take this chance to clear out the last resin/OOP stuff in the Tyranid range with plastic Lictors / Shrikes / Biovores / Pyrovores?

edit: I also expect that after a few months of Primaris & Death Guard we'll see more of a focus on AoS. Pretty sure that Cthulu Elves were rumored earlier this year.

xtothez fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 28, 2017

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
i was under the impression that only the new factions (3 remaining Traitor Legions and Primaris) were getting new models. i would be very excited for new Eldar kits but the odds are incredibly unlikely

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Eldar and Nid codexes are due before November, so that'll be the rest of October sorted. Probably see Plastic Eldrad released separately.

November is looking to be Specialist Games month. Necromunda/Blood Bowl releases, as well as this new Shadespire game's expansion boxes and the like.

And December of course is all a mystery. Some years they release new stuff, other years they focus purely on limited release xmas goodies. Hope the megaboxes are as good value as last year's were.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Phyresis posted:

i was under the impression that only the new factions (3 remaining Traitor Legions and Primaris) were getting new models. i would be very excited for new Eldar kits but the odds are incredibly unlikely

I was under that impression too but when I went looking for why it looks like everyone interpreted "Our focus is mainly on Imperials vs Chaos in 2017" as "Only those will get models at all" which isn't necessarily the case.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

JoshTheStampede posted:

I was under that impression too but when I went looking for why it looks like everyone interpreted "Our focus is mainly on Imperials vs Chaos in 2017" as "Only those will get models at all" which isn't necessarily the case.

idk man i don't follow the rumors or anything, this is an independent observation from a former 40k vet who has only started catching up a couple weeks ago. we'll see

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Chances are if you're not a new faction you're not getting new models for a while. This latest round of codexes seem more of a means to get everyone out of the Indexes and up to speed with their unique gear/traits/strategems and whatnot.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
Maybe there'll be plastic Sisters before I die of old age. :v:

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
A Primaris mega box with the new dread and repulsor at a good discount seems like a good bet for December.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Groetgaffel posted:

Maybe there'll be plastic Sisters before I die of old age. :v:

I'm actively sick to death of everyone taking the sarcastic quips the Community team does to questions about new Sisters as gospel.

I'm also sick of them responding to said questions with sarcastic quips. The joke got old long ago and goddamn it just say if they're coming out or not so I can stop my regular Hams from arguing if the "New Plastic Sisters" line in that one video meant SoB or SoS.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS
So Black Library is now on audible.

Now you can own audiobooks of The Beast Arises for the low price of $31.97 per 6 hour audiobook, or $383 for the series of 12.

But wait! If you're an Audible member you can buy them for $22.38. That's a savings of over $100!

Space Butler
Dec 3, 2010

Lipstick Apathy

Groetgaffel posted:

Maybe there'll be plastic Sisters before I die of old age. :v:

This joke is 21 years old now, if the dates on the bases are actually true.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
Valhallan vehicles are pretty funny. Russes don't degrade until they have been reduced to literally 3 Wounds or less. In contrast, Steel Legion vehicles only reduce incoming AP-1 shots to AP0, which is relevant against like, autocannons and a few other things.



Anyone know where one can source a hundred 28mm scale ushankas? Valhallans seem to be baller af

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

Phyresis posted:

a hundred 28mm scale ushankas

Mods username etc.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

Phyresis posted:

Anyone know where one can source a hundred 28mm scale ushankas? Valhallans seem to be baller af

Craft your own template bit and then cast it yourself. Seize the means of production :v:

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Phyresis posted:



Anyone know where one can source a hundred 28mm scale ushankas? Valhallans seem to be baller af

https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=ushanka

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
could just use Canadians for conscripts

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Phyresis posted:

Valhallan vehicles are pretty funny. Russes don't degrade until they have been reduced to literally 3 Wounds or less. In contrast, Steel Legion vehicles only reduce incoming AP-1 shots to AP0, which is relevant against like, autocannons and a few other things.



Anyone know where one can source a hundred 28mm scale ushankas? Valhallans seem to be baller af

Anvil has unmasked, masked, and masked with visor.
Mad Robot has unmasked, masked, and masked with side-things up.
Pig Iron has masked.

E: gently caress, fixed.

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Sep 28, 2017

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
Hey nerds, I done made a video about why bases are super cool and good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbyz6aqDtnc
I do not touch on the black base rim vs. brown base rim discussion, I try to keep politics out of my channel

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
Black rims or retro goblin green or get the gently caress out :colbert:

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:
Always Black. Never compromise. Suffer not the heretic to live.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Mugaaz posted:

Always Black. Never compromise. Suffer not the heretic to live.

Once you go black you never go back

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
Catachan

DOCTRINE: Brutal Strength

Infantry - +1S, +1Ld if within 6" of a friendly CATACHAN OFFICER

Vehicles - can re-roll one of the dice used to determine random numbers of attacks

ORDER: Burn Them Out! - some poo poo with flamers and heavy flamers (reroll Wounds, if i had to guess)

STRATAGEM: Vicious Traps (1CP) - use when an enemy unit finishes a charge move within 1" of a CATACHAN unit that's fully within a terrain feature, roll a dice: on a 4+ the enemy unit suffers D3 mortal wounds

Mordian

DOCTRINE: Parade Drill

Infantry - if they are all in B2B, +1Ld & +1 to Overwatch hits (doesn't work atm, can't modify Overwatch :rolleyes:)

Vehicles - add +1 to Overwatch hit rolls if within 3" of another friendly MORDIAN VEHICLE (same thing)

ORDER: Form Firing Squad! - can target any CHARACTERS with Rapid Fire weapons

STRATAGEM: :shrug:

Vostroyan

DOCTRINE: Heirloom Weapons

Infantry & Vehicles - +6" max range on Heavy and Rapid Fire weapons with 24"+ range

ORDER: Repel the Enemy! - can shoot at enemy units within 1" (the engaging enemy unit when engaged melee)

STRATAGEM:

Valhalla

DOCTRINE: Grim Demeanor

Infantry - half the number of models lost when they fail a Morale test

Vehicles - double remaining Wounds when consulting damage table

ORDER: Fire on My Command - can shoot at enemy unit within 1" of friendly units, but hit rolls of 1 hit the friendly unit

STRATAGEM: Send in the Next Wave! (2CP) - can send in the next wave


----------------

unrevealed Regiments: we only know Doctrines rn

Tallarn: Infantry can fire non-Heavy weapons as Assault weapons without the -1 penalty. Vehicles don't suffer -1 To Hit for firing Heavy weapons after moving

Militarum Tempestus: every To Hit roll of 6 procs an extra shot if they're within half range.

Canadian: reroll To Hit rolls of 1 if they don't move. Infantry that receive the Take Aim! order reroll all failed To Hits if they don't move.

Steel Legion: Infantry have 18" for Rapid Fire range (same as Death Guard) Vehicles treat AP-1 wounds as AP0

Phyresis fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Sep 28, 2017

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
It's so lonely in the Rhinox Hide base trim club.

EDIT:

On my next base rim I guess.

richyp fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Sep 28, 2017

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

richyp posted:

It's so lonely in the Rhinox Hide base trim club.

EDIT:

On my next base rim I guess.

Yeah but the Rhinox Hide club is the right club.

And nobody edges like Fulgrim

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer

SRM posted:

Hey nerds, I done made a video about why bases are super cool and good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbyz6aqDtnc
I do not touch on the black base rim vs. brown base rim discussion, I try to keep politics out of my channel

Please do a full episode on Mr. Pebbles, tia

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Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
Both Emperor's Children Pink and Fulgrim Pink are part of my pink granite recipe that I use for my 30k DA bases. I've been working on another batch of 20 for a soon-to-be-completed tactical squad. Total War has put a hold on that project for at least a couple of days though. :shepface:

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