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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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EvanTH posted:(Shirley Ellis - The Clapping Song [1965]) Guess we'll just have to see how it plays out with Russ running the show. That's Mr. triple double whenever he drat well feels like it Russ to you, Melo.
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Sep 28, 2017 18:39
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I wonder what the Knicks woulda gotten back from the Cavs or the Pacers?
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Sep 28, 2017 18:41
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Carlosologist posted:am I crazy in thinking that Blake Griffin is actually kind of underrated at this point? my buddy said he was like a proto-Jokic and I found myself largely agreeing His health has been a knock against him, you don't get credit for being really good when you miss almost 100 games in 3 seasons. He's also taken a small step back during a time when you'd think he'd be entering his prime, which is always disappointing. Finally there's a kind of dumb pervasive attitude that if your not shooting 3s your not really valuable that exists right now, and Griffin started launching a bunch more to not a great effect. I do agree though, he is probably underrated right now in general, and if he can get to where is isn't missing many games or playing with injuries he is definitely an elite player.
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Sep 28, 2017 18:41
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dokmo posted:The hot hand is alive and well in the video room. The fact that hot hand is schemed against means that it will present less obviously in the numbers The assumption that hot hand exists is yet more proof that hot hand exists Carlosologist posted:am I crazy in thinking that Blake Griffin is actually kind of underrated at this point? my buddy said he was like a proto-Jokic and I found myself largely agreeing I think people haven't really changed their position on his play, but "won't be available by the end of the season due to injury" sort of has to factor into an evaluation
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Sep 28, 2017 18:43
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https://twitter.com/itsgabrielleu/status/913432455004205056
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Sep 28, 2017 18:44
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IT DRose Wade Lebron KLove Khloe Kardashian JR Smith Richard Jefferson's podcast Comic Sans Dan Gilbert's son THE TEN ALPHAS
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Sep 28, 2017 19:11
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Latinx posted:arsenal will gently caress this up and i will do a big lol Wenger must walk
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Sep 28, 2017 19:18
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Latinx posted:arsenal will gently caress this up and i will do a big lol Delonte West or Agent Zero?
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Sep 28, 2017 19:27
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R.D. Mangles posted:if wade and rose are good for the cavs i am going to fake my own death and then haunt the united center like the phantom of the opera I'm late but lmao
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Sep 28, 2017 19:31
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Why do we think these secret Melo trades didn't happen again?
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Sep 28, 2017 19:38
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RBX posted:Why do we think these secret Melo trades didn't happen again? If they even existed, because the Knicks didn't want to do them.
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Sep 28, 2017 19:41
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this bromance is so much better the now that it's aged and i'm all nostalgic and poo poo.
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Sep 28, 2017 19:43
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Well, ok https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/913478283387215872
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Sep 28, 2017 20:00
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Love to have my team commit to tanking when a quarter of the league is doing the same thing, right before the NBA implements lottery reform
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Sep 28, 2017 20:03
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Ben Simmons calling Trump a dickhead is great
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Sep 28, 2017 20:06
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xbilkis posted:Love to have my team commit to tanking when a quarter of the league is doing the same thing, right before the NBA implements lottery reform I dunno, there's probably fewer than at any time in the last decade. Bulls, Suns, Knicks, Hawks? Lakers and Nets don't own their picks, Sacramento's probably going to be real bad but they've got all those veterans.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:08
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Sep 28, 2017 20:08
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I'm not sure I like this draft reform. I guess teams aren't incentivized to tank anymore but doesn't this make it harder for a bad small market team to get a top talent?
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Sep 28, 2017 20:14
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They are still incentivized to tank. It is just harder to get better
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Sep 28, 2017 20:15
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xbilkis posted:Love to have my team commit to tanking when a quarter of the league is doing the same thing, right before the NBA implements lottery reform It's for the 2019 draft. Not this upcoming season's, but the one after.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:21
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chunkles posted:
Is there a link to this anywhere? nvm got one
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Sep 28, 2017 20:33
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euphronius posted:They are still incentivized to tank. It is just harder to get better In particular, this seems likely to increase the number of Anthony Davis-type players languishing in a bad situation. You get the top pick, you end up the fourth or fifth worst team in the league next year, and you're more likely to be picking outside of the top 5 than in it.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:36
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Hmm, interesting. I actually don't hate this?
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Sep 28, 2017 20:37
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it feels like the whole tanking controversy was hot take sports dad territory anyway, can't believe they actually changed poo poo cuz of that silliness.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:42
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Punkin Spunkin posted:it feels like the whole tanking controversy was hot take sports dad territory anyway, can't believe they actually changed poo poo cuz of that silliness. This but also I'm glad my team finished tanking before the changes happened 
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Sep 28, 2017 20:43
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Silver now has the scalp of Hinke and changed odds. He can say he did something and can credibly threaten GMs from philly style tanking .
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Sep 28, 2017 20:44
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I'm still waiting for the day the dress code is gone. yah yah I know "players ended up having fun with it and reinvented fashion" I just hate this Boomer-type poo poo in my basketball
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Sep 28, 2017 20:47
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I like the lotto changes. Rewards teams that try yet are still bad (like the Knicks last year) and disincentives the arms race to the worst. Will still happen, of course, but I think teams will start examining if lower ticket sales from being the absolute worst is better than being medium bad while still having a shot at #1.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:52
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I don't get why they took odds away from the worst team and gave it to other teams if they wanted to disincentivize tanking. Now you don't even have to engineer a worse team than everyone else who's tanking as well as the really-lovely-by-accident teams to get the best odds. It reduces the barrier to tanking.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:16
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Paul Zuvella posted:Hmm, interesting. I actually don't hate this? euphronius posted:Silver now has the scalp of Hinke and changed odds. He can say he did something and can credibly threaten GMs from philly style tanking . We know what it looks like when a bad team doesn't have draft incentive: The Brooklyn Nets. It didn't make them win any more games and they were still appalling basketball. They just traded away their best player this offseason and they still don't have their pick. It won't do anything other than make bad teams stay bad longer, and reward some waffling, 30 win team with no clear strategy with a top pick.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:16
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/913495658245607424 Surprised at how many teams were on board with this
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Sep 28, 2017 21:20
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Jota posted:Wenger must walk
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Sep 28, 2017 21:22
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Because we were actually the out of touch old fogies
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Sep 28, 2017 21:23
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xbilkis posted:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/913495658245607424 I assume it's because what the Suns and 76ers did of years ago did more harm than we thought to the overall product, and owners at the end of the day want more money.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:24
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It seems like the new odds will also broaden the scope of tanking, too. Before, when you were the 10th worst team, there's no real reason to put in a lot of effort to move up two picks unless some protection scenarios gave you an incentive to do so, because moving up in the lottery is still a long-shot. Now, you can get a 1/4 chance of getting a top-5 pick if you're the eighth-worst team, so why not maximize your chances?
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Sep 28, 2017 21:25
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xbilkis posted:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/913495658245607424 Owner's hubris. None of them believes their team is ever going to be bottom-5 garbage. So if they have a "down year," they'll have a better shot at the top pick under this new system.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:28
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Looks fine by me. It still rewards you for being bad, just takes away some of the really high odds for the bottom three teams. So you can rebuild and be bad in sane ways instead of torpedeoing yourself to the ground to slip as far as possible. In theory. Guess we'll see how it plays out, but I'm fine with it.
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Sep 28, 2017 21:34
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Finnish news sites have picked up basketball to the extent of making clickbait: "Markkanen to share the floor with record 3 pt shooter" *its the record for 3 pointers @ the uni of wisconsin
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Sep 28, 2017 21:34
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I am fine with the lottery reforms because watching your team purposely tanking is not fun. Bad teams should get chance to get better via draft, but they should also be better in making smarter basketball decisions and not rely on draft as a hail mary for their lovely decisions.
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Niwrad posted:I am not being hyperbolic about this statement. Cameron Payne is the worst player I've ever seen play at the NBA level. I'm sure there are worse but I've never seen someone that bad with my own eyes. Let me tell you about a fellow named Uwe Blab.
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