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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Frijolero posted:

Welp, pack it up folks, Communism was right all along:

https://twitter.com/surfbordt/status/913242359789387776

Also, gently caress the Clintons.

How have the French avoided income inequality spiraling out of control after the 70s, like every other country did?

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Main Paineframe posted:

isn't this the same tech guy who made a "how do you delete evidence" thread on Reddit when it all blew up

are you thinking of the goon that installed the clinton server?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I prefer to look at the top 20% instead of the top 10%, because it paints an even better picture of just how hosed over the vast majority of people are. Like, the bottom 80% has something like 11% of the wealth.

edit: Heck, it's even more ridiculous if you look at the bottom 50%, who have than 2% of the wealth.

edit2: It's actually pretty impressive the USSR kept the top 10% income share so low; only ~2.5x as much as you'd expect under a perfectly equitable system is pretty good.

Joementum posted:

podesta even emailed his tech guy to ask "should i click this" but because hillary generates a sphere of incompetence that infects anyone working for her, the tech made a typo and wrote "you should click it" instead of "you shouldn't click it"

IIRC it seemed like the tech guy legitimately hosed up and recommended Podesta click the obvious phishing e-mail, and the "uh, it was a typo" thing was him trying to cover his rear end after the fact.

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 21:50 on Sep 28, 2017

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

punk rebel ecks posted:

How have the French avoided income inequality spiraling out of control after the 70s, like every other country did?

The Socialist Party was good then.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i like that the inequality is likely much greater than that because of the incredible incentive to obscure your wealth from the government

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

just a reminder that chris matthews on hardball was pushing the bernie was lying about being bruce rappaport narrative

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Joementum posted:

That statement from the CA Attorney General also shows that all the DHS is worried about is a port scan.
cyber warfare

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

loquacius posted:

One of the things I've learned in the last couple years is that "competence" as an abstract concept doesn't matter nearly as much to a campaign as the commentariat seems to think.

It was the main thing HRC had going for her -- she was seasoned, she was serious, serious people took her seriously, etc. She generated such an aura of competence that a lot of people didn't even care what she wanted to do with it. I heard so many Clinton supporters compare the election to a job interview attempting to find the most "qualified" candidate it was ridiculous.

But once you get outside the primary, which those same people tried super hard to remove policy and ideology from entirely, people care less about how qualified you are to do whatever you want and more about whether the things you want will benefit them. It's not a job interview. We can't count on them to act as we want, like a prospective employee, because the president's orders will not come from us. Otherwise political parties would be completely irrelevant.
uh she generated an illusion of competence that the media went along with. dread abuela actually generates an aura of incompetence.

she lost 2008 because of incompetence. her campaign strategist in the 2008 primaries thought that the states were winner take all and her campaign did not understand the importance of early states.

she similarly lost 2016 because of incredible incompetence that resulted in such things as her campaign telling union workers to turn around from their plan of trying to campaign in wisconsin, taking millions of dollars in bribe money from wall street shortly before running against her staff's advice, etc.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

uh she generated an illusion of competence that the media went along with. dread abuela actually generates an aura of incompetence.

she lost 2008 because of incompetence. her campaign strategist in the 2008 primaries thought that the states were winner take all and her campaign did not understand the importance of early states.

she similarly lost 2016 because of incredible incompetence that resulted in such things as her campaign telling union workers to turn around from their plan of trying to campaign in wisconsin, taking millions of dollars in bribe money from wall street shortly before running against her staff's advice, etc.

Also you would think that multiple defeats in rust belt states would have clued her campaign in that she had a fundamental weakness in those states.

Instead she ended up ignoring states that Bernie won like Wisconsin and decided not to send any campaign help to Michigan.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

uh she generated an illusion of competence that the media went along with.

this is basically what I meant though

obv she and her campaign did literally everything wrong; the entire appeal of her as a person is that everyone assumed she was Very Smart and would correctly do all the necessary things to accomplish what she wanted (whatever that was)

Anyway here's a gif

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Actually Hillary's campaign was too smart to win

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Frijolero posted:

Putin turned us into an oligarchy :qq:

...yes...ahem, Putin turned us into an oligarchy! He's the one to blame!

*twirls mustache, sneaks away holding giant sacks with big $ signs on them*

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Majorian posted:

*clatters loudly and aimlessly on keyboard, like a hacker in a 90's movie*

*puts on Sneaker Pimps cd, rollerblades out of thread*

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Oh are we doing teenage nostalgia now? Corporate America is ready to cash in:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/28/spotify-playlist-personalized-teenage-years/

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


was losing the election part of your plan?!

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

All leftward dissent against corporate centrists either stems from Russian bots, or unwitting dupes who are the product of Russian dezinformatsiya (that's the Russian word for disinformation, look how scary and Russian it looks)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/913141352971501569

Matt Bruenig gonna be a Senior WH Advisor soon

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/NickAPappas/status/913142207900798976

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Welcome home workers of the Eastern Standard Timezone

The Suck Zone didn't stop sucking just because you had to make a buck Joe and Jane sixpack



These fuckers want to fight working people but the only weapons they have are bad ideas, branding and snark.

Also, I can't believe I fell for all that Russian agitprop about how people deserve more than gently caress all and how we live in a poo poo hole society run by ineffectual, greedy, self-aggrandizing fuckers.

Egg Moron has issued a correction as of 22:49 on Sep 28, 2017

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Captain_Maclaine posted:

*puts on Sneaker Pimps cd, rollerblades out of thread*

*listens to Faith No More*

...not as a 90's thing, I just really like Faith No More.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

punk rebel ecks posted:

How have the French avoided income inequality spiraling out of control after the 70s, like every other country did?

Because they have balls

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


Does this man consider himself part of "the left" and if so why

or even "the center", this is pretty mainstream Republican

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void




oh man this poo poo is great

"I am comfortable as poo poo and I can abstractly imagine myself as part of a continuum of humanity from the comfort of my bullshit nerfball life. Why you complaining poor?"

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

punk rebel ecks posted:

How have the French avoided income inequality spiraling out of control after the 70s, like every other country did?

Lots and lots of rioting. No, seriously. It works.

Majorian posted:

*listens to Faith No More*

...not as a 90's thing, I just really like Faith No More.

They're not bad!

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Clinton is a fascist in a clever disguise

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Over Easy posted:



oh man this poo poo is great

"I am comfortable as poo poo and I can abstractly imagine myself as part of a continuum of humanity from the comfort of my bullshit nerfball life. Why you complaining poor?"

I love how he had to throw in "bad financial habits" too

"I mean and obviously it's everyone's own drat fault they're not super rich. Sure is great having all this moral high ground. You guys sound mad."

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

only from the generosity of productive supermen are jobs birthed. if you do not give them the billions of dollars they are rightfully owed, then they may abscond to galt's gulch and society will be left in abject poverty as a result with no jobs for anyone since no one is there making the jobs anymore

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

loquacius posted:

I love how he had to throw in "bad financial habits" too

"I mean and obviously it's everyone's own drat fault they're not super rich. Sure is great having all this moral high ground. You guys sound mad."

lol

"Sure some have it better than others, but ON AVERAGE we are a just and moral society"

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

americans are effectively lobotomized. many americans believe you are committing a social taboo if you suggest that shareholder or executive wealth and income is unfair compared to the distribution of revenue given to the workers

it's contingent on an insane fairy tale belief that the 'market' is inherently just

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

comedyblissoption posted:

americans are effectively lobotomized. many americans believe you are committing a social taboo if you suggest that shareholder or executive wealth and income is unfair compared to the distribution of revenue given to the workers

it's contingent on an insane fairy tale belief that the 'market' is inherently just

working people know they are getting screwed

the middle class however...

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

comedyblissoption posted:

americans are effectively lobotomized. many americans believe you are committing a social taboo if you suggest that shareholder or executive wealth and income is unfair compared to the distribution of revenue given to the workers

it's contingent on an insane fairy tale belief that the 'market' is inherently just

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Captain_Maclaine posted:

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.

That's so gross. Just so loving gross.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

loquacius posted:

Does this man consider himself part of "the left" and if so why

or even "the center", this is pretty mainstream Republican

he's a very moderate republican who dislikes economic populism

pretty classic "social liberal, economic conservative". if he bitched a little less about the welfare state and minimum wage, he'd easily qualify as a Dem

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

so when were those democracy party people supposed to reveal their fraudulent internet plan today?

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Captain_Maclaine posted:

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.

he may or may not have bookshelves filled with lengthy hardbacks that all have the word "AMERICA" on their spines in one form or another

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Captain_Maclaine posted:

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.

chapo’s kai rysdall/marketplace cold open remains one of my favorites

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Captain_Maclaine posted:

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.
many americans do believe that the fundamental economic system of capitalism is an apolitical issue. to question it is a social taboo. it's an incredibly successful lobotomy.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

comedyblissoption posted:

many americans do believe that the fundamental economic system of capitalism is an apolitical issue. to question it is a social taboo. it's an incredibly successful lobotomy.

It's the natural result of our education system spending over a hundred years completely ignoring Marx.

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NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Captain_Maclaine posted:

NPR had someone on this morning promoting a book he'd written on the history of American Capitalism and over and over he kept insisting that capitalism was best understood divorced from political ideology and purely as a disinterested economic system that just sorta functioned on its own and who's shortcomings were the responsibility of society to ameliorate (and which somehow were not inherent to its own model). I may have sworn a bunch while listening to it.

gently caress that guy

i like 1a's intro thingy and thats about it

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