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OwlFancier posted:I fear I may be too radicalized because I automatically read that as "the godlessness of the free market" and got confused why ukip was promoting it. 
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ronya posted:it occurs to me that the question of how some liberal democracies relegate charismatic populists to small, personal machines and some fail to quarantine them this way A note that Boris is a leading candidate for next Prime Minister of this country...
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Cerebral Bore posted:Pretty bad wargamers who didn't realize that the RN had about 20 warships based in the channel ports themselves. Or move to the milhist thread in Ask/Tell. We love talking about how impossible Sealion was there  feedmegin fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Sep 29, 2017 |
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Sep 29, 2017 17:08
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feedmegin posted:A note that Boris is a leading candidate for next Prime Minister of this country... touché... Powell had pretty good odds once too, so there remains hope that Bojo has made enough enemies
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feedmegin posted:A note that Boris is a leading candidate for next Prime Minister of this country... I wonder that is happening in the Light Universe right now.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Pretty bad wargamers who didn't realize that the RN had about 20 warships based in the channel ports themselves. http://www.megagame-makers.org.uk/megagame-dp.htm These guys do it a lot with various different scenarios but I can't find the report of the "War starts in 38" one they did a few years ago that panned out as I said. The big Sandhurst one in the seventies also had the mine-screening idea but kinda handwaved the RN's ability to defeat the screen and also was based around the RAF being in the situation it was at Adlertag, rather than having been wiped out - there's a *lot* of words about it here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=178886&start=465 But yeah, I've not really got a dog in this fight, it's just an interesting topic of conversation is all, so I'll admit I'm wrong and move on.
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Gort posted:That doesn't make sense to me as an argument against organ donation being opt-out. Listen you obviously don't know science. If they do something to improve the availability of organs it means they're want to do that. Opt-out donations are but one step. The most effective step would be to legalize killing people for their organs. At the same time, the loony left who support opt-out donations also support the NHS being free to everyone, even foreign immigrats. This is war against white people and supporting opt-out organ donation clearly means you want to slaughter all the good white people so the browns can steal all our organs.
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The Tories are at danger of plummeting below 100,000 members, which would make them the fourth biggest membership in the country, after Labour (570,000), the SNP (116,000) and the Lib Dems (106,000). The Green membership is at around 51,000 and UKIP's membership is 27,000.
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Sep 29, 2017 17:41
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I made a success of Sealion in hearts of iron 4 and it wasn't even that hard. Check loving mate.
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Speaking of Nazi things named after sea mammals, seehunds are cool. Midget submarines that are actually submersible will be a valuable addition to the post-Brexit supply chain.
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Sep 29, 2017 17:51
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They'll help us access the single market
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Sep 29, 2017 17:55
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Nice reference to include Michael Gove on the far right.
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Sep 29, 2017 17:59
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He finally managed to flush himself down the toilet! along with the rest of us
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TinTower posted:The Tories are at danger of plummeting below 100,000 members, which would make them the fourth biggest membership in the country, after Labour (570,000), the SNP (116,000) and the Lib Dems (106,000). I read somewhere recently that the average age of the Tory party membership is now something silly like 76 - does anyone have a link to stats like that?
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The average? Jesus I wish time would hurry up and waste all these olds that keep loving up everything for people who have a future
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72 apparently, but I can't see a source for that http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tory-party-conference-manchester-theresa-may-win-over-youth-boris-johnson-protests-brexit-a7974396.html "Although ministers will doubtless be surrounded by young faces for the cameras, the average age of a Tory party member is now 72. No wonder the Tories plan to set up a new youth movement."
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Christ. Wait a decade and they'll all be dead.
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mediadave posted:72 apparently, but I can't see a source for that Yeah, but that includes a bunch of 1000 year old vampires that throw off the average.
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mediadave posted:"Although ministers will doubtless be surrounded by young faces for the cameras, the average age of a Tory party member is now 72. No wonder the Tories plan to set up a new youth movement."
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mediadave posted:I read somewhere recently that the average age of the Tory party membership is now something silly like 76 - does anyone have a link to stats like that? It's more like 60. But party membership across most parties trends towards olds, as they have the free time to engage in that sort of thing.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The average? Jesus I remember reading something rather depressing in the healthcare megathread a few years back about orientation questions for old people suffering from dementia. They barely remembered their own name, didn't know what year or even decade it currently was, but if you asked them who the current president was, hoo boy. Long after most of their mind is gone, plenty of people seem to wither down to nothing but burning hate until their very last breath. I will never celebrate death, but I can at least be glad when these people are gone.
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I don't think they're like that because they're old. I just think their generation was trash. Broken by war or the immediate consequences. WW II, rationing, waves of immigration, the collapse of the empire, the cold war. It all came together to produce a completely hosed up idiotic hateful generation. They want to go back to a world that didn't even exist for long. The concept of Britain, so ethereal that it can't be defined lest it shatter into a million patriotic tears, is all they have to cling onto. The world is now smart phones, google and people of other races. They could have joined this world, but chose not to. Now they can't. They're too old, too set in their ways and they have nothing. I would be sympathetic but they're assholes and dying alone is too good for them.
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TinTower posted:The Tories are at danger of plummeting below 100,000 members, which would make them the fourth biggest membership in the country, after Labour (570,000), the SNP (116,000) and the Lib Dems (106,000). Couldn't they just spin that into being an "elite" club. Seems like that would, if anything, be a point of pride for them.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I don't think they're like that because they're old. I just think their generation was trash. Broken by war People actually old enough to have served in World War 2 break the Tory mould if I recall correctly and tend to vote more lefty. Those are the people who elected Attlee, remember.
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feedmegin posted:People actually old enough to have served in World War 2 break the Tory mould if I recall correctly and tend to vote more lefty. Those are the people who elected Attlee, remember.
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The Tories' core support is boomers who don't realise things have changed a bit since the 1950s.
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TinTower posted:The Tories are at danger of plummeting below 100,000 members, which would make them the fourth biggest membership in the country, after Labour (570,000), the SNP (116,000) and the Lib Dems (106,000). How does anyone know? According to the BBC the Tories haven't released any figures since 2013 when they had 150k members. Regarde Aduck posted:I don't think they're like that because they're old. I just think their generation was trash. Broken by war or the immediate consequences. WW II, rationing, waves of immigration, the collapse of the empire, the cold war. It all came together to produce a completely hosed up idiotic hateful generation. They want to go back to a world that didn't even exist for long. The concept of Britain, so ethereal that it can't be defined lest it shatter into a million patriotic tears, is all they have to cling onto. The world is now smart phones, google and people of other races. They could have joined this world, but chose not to. Now they can't. They're too old, too set in their ways and they have nothing. I would be sympathetic but they're assholes and dying alone is too good for them. Have to agree with this. According to the statistics the baby boomer generation spent more and had a better standard of living than the previous generation when they were young, and now they're old they spend more and have a better standard of living than the generation after them. They have always been on top regardless of where they were in the age bracket. It's also backed up by the kind of politics they've supported: increasing state spending when they were younger and could benefit from it, taking all the state assets for themselves under Thatcher, and now strangling state spending in order to prop up the value of those assets at the expense of anyone younger than they are. Just a selfish, selfish generation.
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jabby posted:How does anyone know? According to the BBC the Tories haven't released any figures since 2013 when they had 150k members. Someone high-up in the Tories, apparently.
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jabby posted:According to the statistics the baby boomer generation spent more and had a better standard of living than the previous generation when they were young, and now they're old they spend more and have a better standard of living than the generation after them. I think some generations are getting muddled here, the baby boom was after the war. Also poor people don't live as long, which must skew the surviving elderly rightwards.
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Yeah, this is the tail end of the Silent Generation being unfortunately not.
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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/913783126429708288
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She was locked inside cerebro to amplify her brexit thought processes, JEREMY.
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I posted this in the GBS Brexit thread but I find it funny how much public infrastructure in Britain is publicly owned without the public knowing about it - by other EU governments that is (article doesn't list anywhere near all of the companies in question, as quick perusal of wikipedia shows, albeit now it's not the EU but Abu Dhabi/Kuwait/China. ehh, dunno)
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I've always found it crazy that countries just privatise their water/gas/electricity services. We all know by now that the myth of "private sector efficiency" is complete bollocks.
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Pochoclo posted:I've always found it crazy that countries just privatise their water/gas/electricity services. We all know by now that the myth of "private sector efficiency" is complete bollocks. WE do. It's still been orthodoxy since the 80s.
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The power of voter apathy.
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Thanks for this, it's a really interesting bit of gossip- and amazing if true, since it puts the tory grassroots at the same level as the lib dems, which is incredible given the last election %s. One wee thing though, why didn't you post the source originally? Makes it a lot easier to chat about when everyone's on the same page and it's not just some twitter rumour
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https://twitter.com/dwdavison9318/status/913905088804130816 https://twitter.com/dwdavison9318/status/913906100327546881
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Speaking of Boris being an utter prick, has there ever been a campaign like Labour's current one to unseat prominent members of the government? It seems like such an obvious idea to punish those most responsible for loving the country by funnelling resources into taking their seat, but I don't remember it being done before. Some kind of gentleman's agreement to keep politics a game for the rich and powerful?
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