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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:nah I don't think that's 100% of it, it might be a big part for a lot of people but some (read: ex-military) really take patriotism seriously this is nationalism which is nearly always also racism
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the bitcoin of weed posted:it's racism hth Thanks for the sophomoric analysis.
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:nah I don't think that's 100% of it, it might be a big part for a lot of people but some (read: ex-military) really take patriotism seriously It's pretty inaccurate to say the people who are ultra patriotic about these symbols are all ex-military. Most people who join the military do it for the paycheck. The veterans I know all support the player's right to kneel in protest. The people who are super touchy about the anthem and the flag are more the type who also sport a confederate flag bumper sticker I'd wager.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:It's pretty inaccurate to say the people who are ultra patriotic about these symbols are all ex-military. Most people who join the military do it for the paycheck. The veterans I know all support the player's right to kneel in protest. The people who are super touchy about the anthem and the flag are more the type who also sport a confederate flag bumper sticker I'd wager. not all ex-military are nationalistic but many nationalistic people are also ex-military the same kinds of people who film stolen valor videos MY FRIENDS DIED IN THAT UNIFORM SERVING THIS COUNTRY the bitcoin of weed posted:this is nationalism which is nearly always also racism even racism
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it's nationalism that they're angry about percieved disrespect to national symbols, but it's 100% racism, or at least ignorance of racism, to see people kneeling during the anthem in protest of black people being murdered by the police for no reason and think these protesters have gone too far
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hackbunny posted:Help me here: as a non-american I think I miss some bit of cultural context. I can understand being put off by real world issues intruding in the world of escapism, but some of the reactions are baffling to me. As stupid, egocentric and hyperbolic as it is, I even understand the fans who feel personally disrespected by the demonstration, I can even see a connection with veterans, founding fathers, etc. (because football, war, guns, cars, the revolution etc. are the sacred items, rituals and myths of the American religion), but why are so many people calling the kneeling players "stupid"? Because there's a republican in the white house so now if you don't hump the loving flag at every opportunity you're a communist/terrorist/idiot. It's been this way since at least the 80s.
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Like the whole idea of the Republican Party is that when the Republicans are in charge then things are perfect and wonderful and beautiful and if you are critical of america when it's perfect you must be stupid. If the Blues are in charge then America is UNDER ASSAULT and OCCUPIED and the flag has been STOLEN by OUR ENEMIES.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:it's nationalism that they're angry about percieved disrespect to national symbols, but it's 100% racism, or at least ignorance of racism, to see people kneeling during the anthem in protest of black people being murdered by the police for no reason and think these protesters have gone too far yeah well it's not about that anymore is it since the dickhead in charge tweeted a bunch about it and now they kneeled to Protest Trump and America because that's a much easier bullshit narrative for dumbfucks to follow
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my only thoughts on the NFL protest stuff is that it would all be a lot more sincere if the NFL hadn't spent the last several years fining the poo poo out of anybody who dared to 'get political' and say anything remotely critical about any of America's multiple illegal wars. anyways, here's this https://twitter.com/fordmiddleeast/status/913088482838491137
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the bitcoin of weed posted:it's racism hth Yeah in that you can respond to the question "why is [any given american thing]?" with "racism" and be on point 90% of the time
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Lumpy the Cook posted:my only thoughts on the NFL protest stuff is that it would all be a lot more sincere if the NFL hadn't spent the last several years fining the poo poo out of anybody who dared to 'get political' and say anything remotely critical about any of America's multiple illegal wars. anyways, here's this i mean... that's a pretty clever picture.
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Crane Fist posted:Yeah in that you can respond to the question "why is [any given american thing]?" with "racism" and be on point 90% of the time american politics becomes much simpler once you figure out that most of the discourse is based on racial animus
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the bitcoin of weed posted:american politics becomes much simpler once you figure out that most of the discourse is based on racial animus You guys keep saying "american" like we're unique. It's actually quite racist.
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hackbunny posted:Help me here: as a non-american I think I miss some bit of cultural context. I can understand being put off by real world issues intruding in the world of escapism, but some of the reactions are baffling to me. As stupid, egocentric and hyperbolic as it is, I even understand the fans who feel personally disrespected by the demonstration, I can even see a connection with veterans, founding fathers, etc. (because football, war, guns, cars, the revolution etc. are the sacred items, rituals and myths of the American religion), but why are so many people calling the kneeling players "stupid"? One of the problems that these sort of very nationalistic people have with folks who don't share a similar sort of nationalism is that they know, deep down inside, that the country isn't actually as great as it pretends to be. They know that it was built on the backs of slaves, immigrants, abused minorities, and that, given the chance, the country would go right back to that, despite feeling a little guilty about it. The cognitive dissonance caused by, say, the US running a military base where rape and abuse of the local populace is common and the picture of the military as clean cut, square jawed heroes who put down the Nazi menace hurts them, literally hurts them, and rather than doing the difficult soul searching and reevaluating of values ("Why is being an American so important to me? Why do I need to be definite by my race? Why have I not improved other aspects of my life so that I can take pride in those, rather than what I was handed at birth?"), it is easier to attack those who point out the contradiction. Clearly, you'd have to be stupid to think that all cops aren't dedicated heroes who only shoot criminals. Clearly, you have to be an idiot to think that racism still exists. They are the smart ones who have it all figured out. You're trying to complicate things and create problems. Thank you for eating at Taco Bell. Live Más.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:this is why i buy toyota. lmbo
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Peanut President posted:You guys keep saying "american" like we're unique. It's actually quite racist. It's impossible to be racist against Americans because there's no slander or stereotype so gross they can't be convinced to fulfill it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mixAYpdZwRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GgrGvqYUjY Darkman Fanpage posted:this is why i buy toyota.
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Crane Fist posted:It's impossible to be racist against Americans because there's no slander or stereotype so gross they can't be convinced to fulfill it Hmmm.
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also because american is not a race
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Relin posted:also because american is not a race it's one we're winning
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lol, are americans pretending people are racist against "america" i thought racism was intent + power death to america
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steinrokkan posted:death to america
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will and grace alone set back gay rights by 20 years. that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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an actual dog posted:will and grace alone set back gay rights by 20 years. that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Make America Gay Again Twenty Six United States Dollars
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an actual dog posted:will and grace alone set back gay rights by 20 years. that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Relin posted:also because american is not a race steinrokkan posted:lol, are americans pretending people are racist against "america" Unpersoning, a classic racist maneuver. I thought c-spam was safe from this kind of thing
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