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No Wave posted:Lol Realtalk, the impression I'm under is that aside from the Tank/Bruiser divide that Blizzard likes to classify characters as that the tanks in HotS do function slightly differently while having largely the same role to the degree that they aren't really freely interchangable. Johanna's ability to drastically displace someone ala Garrosh tossing them into the middle of your team or Diablo charge-slamming them isn't as pronounced, and her CC isn't as hard as someone like Anub'arak who has two stuns in his base kit and another stun he can take for a heroic. I mean, I recall seeing discussion to that effect here in this thread when someone would ask why Johanna wasn't in the meta at the moment, that the reason was while she had really good waveclear and personal sustain that her ability to CC people and/or her ability to single an enemy out and put them in a bad position for an engagement weren't as robust as other options, and that a lot of people didn't feel the need for a high sustain, low damage, waveclear warrior with a blind. Is that way off base?
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Johanna's role is to be incredibly obnoxious to actually get past, between the blind, succ, and the slow. In theory with Diablo/Anub'arak/Garrosh once they burn (or miss) their abilities you can largely ignore them and go straight for the squishies. With Johanna and her low-cooldown abilities the engagement window is much, much shorter, and the squishies have much more time and leeway to use their defense/mobility or to back off entirely.
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BrianBoitano posted:Bugs/undocumented changes reported on Reddit y'all might want to know about. Sounds like there is a big with characters getting hidden GCDs that has reappeared with this patch as well, severely hurting characters like Alarak/Kerrigan/Kelthuzad etc Really loving the state of HOTS quality control
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Okay yeah this falstad bug is irratating as hell. Watching him scoot away from me as varian even with the charge cooldown reduction is super frustrating.
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Kurieg posted:Okay yeah this falstad bug is irratating as hell. Watching him scoot away from me as varian even with the charge cooldown reduction is super frustrating. All Dwarves are the worst
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Look, have you ever had a problem with a coworker using the wrong version of a word file? Even practicing surgeons leave sponges in folks. What I'm saying is that Blizzard can do no harm and any whining is unjustified quibbling  Unrelated, but I played TL with 4 bronzes today. I've never had to clear up so many misconceptions about basic game mechanics, hero or map interactions. Not just recent changes, either. I guess some people just play competitive "blind", like folks trying to solve Rubik's Cube without looking up algorithms. Probably more satisfying when they win, but why hamstring yourself so much?
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Whenever I ask someone to go to an empty lane I wonder if they know why I'm asking or if they think they're there to guard the fort.
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However loving inept the HOTS devs are, I do enjoy playing this insanely overpowered Falstad What will be even better is this will be like the Chen bug where they nerf him before they realize a bug is what made him better Midnightghoul fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Midnightghoul posted:However loving inept the HOTS devs are, I do enjoy playing this insanely overpowered Falstad Two days ago I played the 5-man mid brawl as an all Falstad team. One of the most fun all-identical brawls I've had, the great hinterlands snipe wars was tense and exciting. Not to mention looking at a flock of dwarven gryphon riders in a big group unexpectedly reminded me of warcraft II.
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lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O2sPSWBlpc
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You know what's better than a Dwarf any day? A Worgen. Delete Falstad & Muradin and replace them with Greymane on a bat and Greymane using a Dwarf as a shield.
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that llidan that flies in at the end is the icing on the wtf cake
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OK the Falstad bug is hilarious. Once you get the talents its tons of damage while just cruising around the fight.
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Sensual Simian posted:that llidan that flies in at the end is the icing on the wtf cake Totally. Guldan flying back with "UNSTOPPABLE" and a frantically distressed animation is pretty great too.
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So Is there a reason I can't critter morph Sonya as Brightwing? 3 times yesterday during a game I was point blank because she jumped on me with ult and after stun I couldn't squirrel her.
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I just spent a very enjoyable 15 minutes teaching a Butcher that you can't 1v1 a good Nazeebo.
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 Currently 3-0 on foundry in hero league with vikings. My team spent the entire match pinging my vikings whenever they weren't in a team fight and bitching about loving VIKINGS GG THANKS FOR THE LOSS,. I was the pilot twice, so that hero damage is mostly from punching people in the face. edit: I got MVP and my team flipped out. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Seebach posted:So Is there a reason I can't critter morph Sonya as Brightwing? 3 times yesterday during a game I was point blank because she jumped on me with ult and after stun I couldn't squirrel her. Unstoppable effect on leap for X seconds most likely
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Toshimo posted:I just spent a very enjoyable 15 minutes teaching a Butcher that you can't 1v1 a good Nazeebo. To be fair you were able to do that before the big nerfs I think
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Toshimo posted:I just spent a very enjoyable 15 minutes teaching a Butcher that you can't 1v1 a good Nazeebo. You can't do anything to a good Nazeebo. He's by far the character I most fear to see played competently on the enemy team right now. He just moved up to highest win rate in the game as well. He's become my preferred draft ban if no one wants to select him. I've played him many times in the last month and he feels just massively over-tuned, or rather that his talent builds are so high synergy compared to other characters that his scaling just seems to ramp up to a level that other characters can't reach. You just run over mid/late game team fights with his damage and control.
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I've been playing Ana a bit and I like her quite a bit. She's a lot more engaging to play than other supports because landing healing darts feels so satisfying. She does have a lot of weird design quirks though. Her talents are all weird as heck, especially stuff like the dose-stacking quest, which you will almost NEVER naturally get done because of how important it is to stay back with her. It's also too bad she can't heal herself since that railroads her into a duo support line-up, even if that's what allows her healing output to be so strong. If she had a bit of out-of-combat regen from a talent or something, that'd be cool imo Nanoboost seems like it's going to be nigh worthless for 90% of the heroes in the game but pretty devastating for the remaining 10%, like Cho'Gall and Malthael Eye of Horus is pretty nice on large maps with a lot of splitting, but overall you'll find very little use for it if you're tagging along with your team
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Minorkos posted:It's also too bad she can't heal herself since that railroads her into a duo support line-up, even if that's what allows her healing output to be so strong. If she had a bit of out-of-combat regen from a talent or something, that'd be cool imo
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Nazeebo has the highest winrate because he's the most retarded thing to play. Extremely high damage, hard to get to because of Ice block + ult, and if you're poo poo at the game like pretty much every Nazeebo picker I've seen, just cast all your spells in the middle of the fight / on a keep and watch your 90000000000 HP Gargantuan do your job for you. Perfect hero to play at lower ranks.
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Eraflure posted:Nazeebo has the highest winrate because he's the most retarded thing to play. Extremely high damage, hard to get to because of Ice block + ult, and if you're poo poo at the game like pretty much every Nazeebo picker I've seen, just cast all your spells in the middle of the fight / on a keep and watch your 90000000000 HP Gargantuan do your job for you. Perfect hero to play at lower ranks. Show me on the voodoo doll where the bad man touched you.
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Eraflure posted:Nazeebo has the highest winrate because he's the most retarded thing to play. Extremely high damage, hard to get to because of Ice block + ult, and if you're poo poo at the game like pretty much every Nazeebo picker I've seen, just cast all your spells in the middle of the fight / on a keep and watch your 90000000000 HP Gargantuan do your job for you. Perfect hero to play at lower ranks. Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iHNQzGt0RA
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Eraflure posted:Nazeebo has the highest winrate because he's the most retarded thing to play. Extremely high damage, hard to get to because of Ice block + ult, and if you're poo poo at the game like pretty much every Nazeebo picker I've seen, just cast all your spells in the middle of the fight / on a keep and watch your 90000000000 HP Gargantuan do your job for you. Perfect hero to play at lower ranks. He's good at any ranks. His win rate even goes up if you sort discrete by Diamond or Master where he's around 58-60%. He does a massive gently caress off amount of damage and most of it is unavoidable if he's even borderline competent.
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Libertine posted:He's good at any ranks. Oh definitely, but his whole kit makes him amazing vs bad players who underestimate DoT, don't notice they have spiders on them or just try to teamfight near a Gargantuan. Toshimo posted:Show me on the voodoo doll where the bad man touched you. I don't have any problem with a hero being very easy to play. It's a good thing, the game needs a few of those (preferably somewhat viable instead of being Jimmy tier). BrianBoitano posted:Hahahaahahaha As always : 
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Eraflure posted:I don't have any problem with a hero being very easy to play. Hahahaahahaha
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The bad voodoo man touched me here:  Also is there any reason to take I AM NOW COMPLETE over YOU ARE NOT PREPARED on Illidan? 
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Only when you are now complete but your opponents are also prepared.
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Are you losing teamfights because you get focused and die? Then NOW I AM COMPLETE. Is the enemy team overextending or otherwise going off on their own a lot? Then YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.
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I decided to play nazeebo and despite a few mistakes I wrecked wholesale rear end and I suck. This guy needs a nerf so bad and I would start with ice block.
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I wish instead of ice block they did something like corpse pile - Naz gets 90 armor but is 90% slowed for 3 seconds. Zombies appear and dogpile him, soaking up most of the damage.
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Tibalt posted:I wish instead of ice block they did something like corpse pile - Naz gets 90 armor but is 90% slowed for 3 seconds. Zombies appear and dogpile him, soaking up most of the damage. Ice Block should be Spirit Walk: Nazeebo is Immune and Unstoppable for 2 seconds.
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Adding mobility to those defensive cooldowns would be even more OP.
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Olaf The Stout posted:Adding mobility to those defensive cooldowns would be even more OP. G E N J I
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Vile Infenction is probably the single most broken thing in this game which is saying a lot. But if anything else yeah he probably could have Ice Block removed outright, dive is supposed to be his big weakness but you can just Wall/Garg/Ice Block and if they can't get out of the zombies you get an easy kill.
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Is there some trick to hitting people with the spider jar? I feel like I flub that shot more than any other skill shot in the game. Don't know what it is about it. Turned quickcast on for it thinking that on-release was maybe loving me up; seems to have helped a little bit but still always feels a little off somehow.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Is there some trick to hitting people with the spider jar? I feel like I flub that shot more than any other skill shot in the game. Don't know what it is about it. Turned quickcast on for it thinking that on-release was maybe loving me up; seems to have helped a little bit but still always feels a little off somehow. It's 100% about predicting enemy movement. Sorry, but it's a straight get gud issue.
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