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i'm not saying it's "correct", but you can rewatch the OT (especially IV) with the reading that Obi is blatantly manipulative. He sells Luke a very romantic backstory re: his father/Clone Wars/the Jedi/the lightsaber, and even when he's telling Luke it's too dangerous to run back home it can almost seem a little stilted, as if he wants Luke to go back, see skeletons, and get galvanized. Obi doesn't take the fall to Vader unti he's sure that Luke is watching. He becomes more powerful than Vader can possibly imagine in death because now Luke has lost everyone he knows to Vader/the Empire. That's why it's fun to see Luke call him out on Dagobah in ROTJ. Obi literally appears as a ghost, sits on a log, and starts POUTING. It's awesome. I'm not saying it's consistent or intended but I love the kooky trickster element on OT Kenobi
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Bongo Bill posted:Also to assassinate the Emperor and his abominable minion. Yes, that's what he said. Obi-Wan posted:You were the Chosen One! You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them. You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.
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Ingmar terdman posted:i'm not saying it's "correct", but you can rewatch the OT (especially IV) with the reading that Obi is blatantly manipulative. He sells Luke a very romantic backstory re: his father/Clone Wars/the Jedi/the lightsaber, and even when he's telling Luke it's too dangerous to run back home it can almost seem a little stilted, as if he wants Luke to go back, see skeletons, and get galvanized. Obi doesn't take the fall to Vader unti he's sure that Luke is watching. He becomes more powerful than Vader can possibly imagine in death because now Luke has lost everyone he knows to Vader/the Empire. Still a great video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN74bOubUug
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Sep 29, 2017 10:51
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dublish posted:Yes, that's what he said.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The one thing I did like about the Prequels is the whole monkey's paw thing of 'he will bring balance to the force' turning out to mean that he will wipe out the Jedi and make it so that there are only 2 Jedi and 2 Sith remaining. That's not what that meant.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The one thing I did like about the Prequels is the whole monkey's paw thing of 'he will bring balance to the force' turning out to mean that he will wipe out the Jedi and make it so that there are only 2 Jedi and 2 Sith remaining. And then in the end both sides were destroyed entirely. Until Disney came along I guess.
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Serf posted:And then in the end both sides were destroyed entirely. Until Disney came along I guess. Luke is a Jedi.
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Sep 29, 2017 15:28
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sassassin posted:Luke is a Jedi. The last one, even.
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Sep 29, 2017 15:43
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sassassin posted:Luke is a Jedi. He certainly does say so.
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Serf posted:He certainly does say so. Return of the Self-proclaimed Jedi.
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Sep 29, 2017 15:44
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Yoda says that he's the last Jedi. But even Yoda doesn't expect Vader to turn. Return of the Jedi is plural
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He also stipulates he is a Jedi in the same way his father was which hooooo boy.
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The Jedi understood the prophecy correctly: bringing balance to the Force did take the form of killing all the Force users who embraced the Dark Side. They foolishly didn't realize that they would not be exempt.
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Sep 29, 2017 18:53
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I never really liked the prophecy angle in the prequels (it also barely comes up after Phantom except at the very end IIRC). It feels like kind of a plot device to get everyone hyped up but why not just have babby Anakin blow up a Hutt with his mind or something.
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porfiria posted:I never really liked the prophecy angle in the prequels (it also barely comes up after Phantom except at the very end IIRC). It feels like kind of a plot device to get everyone hyped up but why not just have babby Anakin blow up a Hutt with his mind or something. How would he then turn to the dark side of the force later on? You've lost your main character's whole arc.
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Sep 29, 2017 20:59
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Blowing up Hutts is awesome.
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There are clips of the prequels on Youtube in 60fps that illustrate how fake these films look, particularly scenes involving visual effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unAu-1H-otA
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Everything looks lovely at high fps, not just special effects.
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Sep 30, 2017 06:20
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Yes, try using True Motion or whatever it's called when a movie is shown on TV.
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Sep 30, 2017 06:30
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"Around the survivors a perimeter create" is still such a cringeworthy line, good god.
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I really like the bit where we see the rockets in the gunship rotated into firing position. It's a neat touch that punctuates the scene and says now we're shifting to war.
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viral spiral posted:There are clips of the prequels on Youtube in 60fps that illustrate how fake these films look, particularly scenes involving visual effects: I can't unsee all the vaginas, you ought to NWS that.
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porfiria posted:I never really liked the prophecy angle in the prequels (it also barely comes up after Phantom except at the very end IIRC). It feels like kind of a plot device to get everyone hyped up but why not just have babby Anakin blow up a Hutt with his mind or something.
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I think it's also interesting that a child appears who conforms to their prophecies and yet they almost abandon him because of how doctrinaire they are.
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Yeah as much as I hate the prequels the Jedi being too aloof and elitist to see all of the things they're talking about maybe possibly happening via the force literally already happening right in front of them is pretty obvious.
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Looks like details are coming out on the Obi-wan desert exile spinoff..Star Wars Leaks Reddit posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS THE PHANTOM MENACE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, OBI-WAN KENOBI. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN LIGHTSABER SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME BATTLE DROIDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THAT SITH LORDS ARE THEIR SPECIALITY. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERDAY TO PEOPLE IN THE MOS EISLEY CANTINA AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE MOS EISLEY IS A HIVE OF SCUM AND VILLAINY. AND IVE RELEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY HUT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS AND 16 MINUTES INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNing
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i think it owns that they shot some super high budget movies with those digital cameras before they could figure out how to make them high dynamic range so all the highlights look hideous, yeah its ugly but its like, cool kitsch you know?
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i havent seen once upon a time in mexico since i was in high school and i dont remember anything about it other than it was shot with those cameras, i wonder if that also has that cool look to it
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Zas posted:i think it owns that they shot some super high budget movies with those digital cameras before they could figure out how to make them high dynamic range so all the highlights look hideous, yeah its ugly but its like, cool kitsch you know? Honestly, if nobody takes the risks of using new technology, the best way to use it will never be discovered.
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viral spiral posted:There are clips of the prequels on Youtube in 60fps that illustrate how fake these films look, particularly scenes involving visual effects: "this clip which has been post-processed so that half the frames are interpolated looks fake, reflecting badly on the film in question"
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This tangent about frame rates reminds me: I would genuinely like people to work with 48+ FPS again, since rapid camera movement in the kinds of really intense action scenes we can make these days hurts my brain. I don't know who might give that another go, though. I also despise film buffs who think 24 FPS is somehow sacred or more real or more "filmic."
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Oh yeah, the Hobbits looked great. I think the real sticking point is the lack of a home release format for 48+ fps more than anything, which means that once it's out of the cinema watching the movie is a degraded experience.
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[quote="“Mechafunkzilla”" post="“476909346”"] Everything looks lovely at high fps, not just special effects. [/quote] The bigger problem was that everything was filmed on green screen. CGI is never going to age as well as practical effects.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The bigger problem was that everything was filmed on green screen. CGI is never going to age as well as practical effects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_Fi7x93PY
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FlamingLiberal posted:The bigger problem was that everything was filmed on green screen. CGI is never going to age as well as practical effects. Each of the prequels used more practical effects than the entire original trilogy combined. In particular, the number of miniatures involved in the battle on Geonosis was enormous.
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Bongo Bill posted:Each of the prequels used more practical effects than the entire original trilogy combined. In particular, the number of miniatures involved in the battle on Geonosis was enormous.
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That scene owns. Not seeing a problem here
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This might have been posted before, but I was looking around to see where the Scarif parts of Rogue One were filmed, and  :quote:At the 2017 South by Southwest film festival, Edwards revealed that the planet's name, Scarif, came from a misspelling of his name on a coffee cup, telling the audience "I must have said, 'It's Gareth,' and they wrote 'Scarif.'"
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Bongo Bill posted:Each of the prequels used more practical effects than the entire original trilogy combined. In particular, the number of miniatures involved in the battle on Geonosis was enormous. Ummm revenge of the Sith uses green screen on every scene except for the end in Tunisia
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Lord Hydronium posted:This might have been posted before, but I was looking around to see where the Scarif parts of Rogue One were filmed, and Star Wars planet name etymology is the best 
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