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I'll write up something when I get home tomorrow, I loathe effortposting on the app. That is, unless anyone beats me to it.
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Randarkman posted:Denmark still does that thing where they just confiscate refugees' jewelry and other valuables upon entry right? Yes, and their money. Everything exceeding 10,000 DKK, valuables included. Somebody fleeing war was robbed by the police of as little as 8,000 DKK. The Danish People's Party wanted the limit to be 3,000 DKK.
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SplitSoul posted:Yes, and their money. Everything exceeding 10,000 DKK, valuables included. Somebody fleeing war was robbed by the police of as little as 8,000 DKK. The Danish People's Party wanted the limit to be 3,000 DKK. Oh, the war in Germany? The Danish policy is despicable, but you are making two faults in your argumentation which incidentally only help DFP. A: Fleeing from war doesn't end you up in Denmark, since the person in question have literally travelled through a number of countries not in war. The person in question is choosing his country for seeking asylum based on rational decisions such as the presence of fellow countrymen and possibility of jobs and other pull factors. What Denmark is doing is trying to reduce those pull factors in a race to the bottom that the rest of Europe have joined in. B: Not every immigrant coming to Europe is fleeing from wars, a lot comes for better economical opportunities. Both of these issues could in a ideal (lol) world be solved by a pan-Europeean (lol) asylum and green card collaboration. But keep on thinking it is all about racism in Denmark, since that line of argumentation have apparently worked so well.
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A more salient fact might be that while Danish police *can* seize valuables, apparently they aren't. An article from June I found said they'd charged people twice so far, total.
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Cardiac posted:Both of these issues could in a ideal (lol) world be solved by a pan-Europeean (lol) asylum and green card collaboration.
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Cardiac posted:Oh, the war in Germany? +Country implements more obviously racist policies than pretty much anywhere else in the world+ +Country elects an incredibly outspokenly racist, ultra nationalist, party as the second biggest in parliament+ It's really not about racism guys, and furthermore...,
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Cardiac posted:A: Fleeing from war doesn't end you up in Denmark, since the person in question have literally travelled through a number of countries not in war. The person in question is choosing his country for seeking asylum based on rational decisions such as the presence of fellow countrymen and possibility of jobs and other pull factors. What Denmark is doing is trying to reduce those pull factors in a race to the bottom that the rest of Europe have joined in. You do know that there are treaties, which Denmark is signatory to, that regulate how refugees are to settled and such? Refugees fleeing from Africa and the Middle East end up in Italy, Spain and Greece. However we would kind of prefer that not all refugees stay in those first destination countries forever, which often are much more economically fragile than Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries (though in practice they often end up languishing in refugee/transit camps in those countries for months if/not years and may or may not simply disappear off the radar).
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Found some good fake news. Oslo has been taken over by gangs of rapist muslims and the cops have given up. Lol. http://occupydeplorables.com/oslo-police-declare-we-have-lost-the-cityislam-has-taken-over/#.Wb3D0eqKmUE.twitter
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Aftenposten is a pro Islamic newspaper lol.
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Lodin posted:Found some good fake news. Oslo has been taken over by gangs of rapist muslims and the cops have given up. Lol. quote:The Grønland district of Oslo looks like Karachi, Basra, and Mogadishu all rolled into one.   
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Randarkman posted:You do know that there are treaties, which Denmark is signatory to, that regulate how refugees are to settled and such? Refugees fleeing from Africa and the Middle East end up in Italy, Spain and Greece. However we would kind of prefer that not all refugees stay in those first destination countries forever, which often are much more economically fragile than Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries (though in practice they often end up languishing in refugee/transit camps in those countries for months if/not years and may or may not simply disappear off the radar).
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Stop responding to Nils, please.Rust Martialis posted:A more salient fact might be that while Danish police *can* seize valuables, apparently they aren't. An article from June I found said they'd charged people twice so far, total. Wrong. There were at least four examples as of January, one where as little as 8.000 DKK was confiscated. It's always been intended as a mostly symbolic gently caress-you gesture, but it is utilised.
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SplitSoul posted:Stop responding to Nils, please. Hardly shocked, but I couldn't find English articles - my Danish lessons start shortly. Can you provide any links either in English or Danish please?
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Grønland has drug addicts. As the community that used to hang out south of the central station got broken up back in 2004 Brugata at the western edge of Grønland became one of the new hangouts. Grønland has brown people. A bunch of people and businesses moved there as first Grünerløkka was gentrified followed by Torggata. It's where you go if you want a good kebab or vegetables at decent prices. Grønland also includes the Oslo Police HQ since forever. The police and private security presence is pretty substantial. They're not "giving up" on anything. It's all pretty standard big city stuff, but I'm sure if you live in any of the aforementioned gentrified areas you'll be annoyed at having to commute past the people you've displaced and stuff. Also, like 3 craft-beer bars, 2 high-concept cocktail bars, 2 bubble-tea shops and a geek/animu store opened up in Brugata/Storgata this year so expect to have to travel further for your kebab in a little while. Grønland will be IT consultants and partysvenske communes as far as the eye can see before 2020. thotsky fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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I plead no contest  Though Mogadishu's gonna start looking attractive when November rolls around.
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Rust Martialis posted:Hardly shocked, but I couldn't find English articles - my Danish lessons start shortly. Can you provide any links either in English or Danish please? https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/et-aar-med-omstridt-smykkelov-politiet-har-brugt-den-fire-gange Reminder that it was a last-minute addition not to confiscate poo poo like wedding rings.
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But one of the most corrupt piece of poo poo scumbag cops here in Norway just got got 21. That makes me happy.
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Lots of salty nazis in Gothenburg today. They pissed away their planned "huge" demonstration, their leader was arrested and now they're getting beat up by police. 
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Collateral Damage posted:Lots of salty nazis in Gothenburg today. They pissed away their planned "huge" demonstration, their leader was arrested and now they're getting beat up by police. Now that's some police brutality I can get behind.
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Apparently the black block got its rear end handed to it by the police and they also spent a lot of effort on infighting. Both nazis and afa grabbed by the police sounds like good work by the police.
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Cardiac posted:Apparently the black block got its rear end handed to it by the police and they also spent a lot of effort on infighting. stop equating antifa with nazis you idiot
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Cardiac is just telling himself that so he can feel better about his buddies getting owned hard, give the man some space.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Cardiac is just telling himself that so he can feel better about his buddies getting owned hard, give the man some space.
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skipThings posted:stop equating antifa with nazis you idiot Turns out a lot of people think both Antifa and the nazi demonstrators are just same type of trash with a different authoritarian flavour. The logic is that "if no one cared the nazis would go away, and afa is playing in to their hands by confronting them, because they want attention". Obviously ignoring nazis is just a tacit endorsement of their behaviour, so they should be confronted and shown in no uncertain terms their bullshit won't fly, but I can understand why you would recoil from the leftist activists as well. Things like the riots 2001 and violence with collateral damage to innocent people has given them a terrible reputation, one not undeserved .
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Cardiac posted:Apparently the black block got its rear end handed to it by the police and they also spent a lot of effort on infighting. Less nazis than expected showed up. Their march was stopped by antifa. Their leaders was arrested and they got beaten up by the police. This apparently is an example of the antifa failing according to Cardiac.
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McCloud posted:Turns out a lot of people think both Antifa and the nazi demonstrators are just same type of trash with a different authoritarian flavour. The logic is that "if no one cared the nazis would go away, and afa is playing in to their hands by confronting them, because they want attention". I guess you could think that, if you're some kind of liberal dumbshit.
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Wild Horses posted:liberalism is good FOR ME TO POOP ON
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 I was right there on the front row at Heden, but goddamn, I had no idea there were that many people. I figured the crowd extended maybe twenty metres behind me. When we started jumping the barricades after the police left because the nazis were clearly not coming, a liberal in a sailing jacket yelled after me and called me 'våldsverkare' 
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my girlfriend is Legos posted:liberal in a sailing jacket yelled after me and called me 'våldsverkare'
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Cerebral Bore posted:FOR ME TO POOP ON 
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When the nazis started chanting about Malexander, I’m sure they just meant their support for the tragic deaths of police in service, you guys.
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So what exactly happened yesterday with the protests? I read that the nazis tried to change the marching route and the police used that as an excuse to shut the whole thing down. Why did they try going a different route? Why didn't they listen to the police? Did they honestly feel they could just do whatever the gently caress they wanted?
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McCloud posted:So what exactly happened yesterday with the protests? I read that the nazis tried to change the marching route and the police used that as an excuse to shut the whole thing down. Why did they try going a different route? Why didn't they listen to the police? Yes to the first, yes to the last, and for the middle ones it turns out nazis aren't very smart.
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No, you see, the people explicitly and openly advocating for, and supporting, the genocide of people with different skin colors, are pretty much the same as the people who are trying to stop them for advocating/enacting mass murder and spreading their hateful ideology. It's really two sides of the same coin when you think about it and both sides are pretty bad.
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All I want is to get rid of a few ethnic, religious and sexual minorities and if you can't respect that then you're the nazi
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Alhazred posted:Their march was stopped by antifa. It was stopped because the nazis tried to deviate from the route they had given permission to use, got pushed back by police at which point they started fighting with the police. Their leader was arrested along with a bunch of others, and while this was going on the permitted time for their demonstration ran out and the police told everyone to gently caress off. Basically the nazis stopped their own march because they're a bunch of thin-skinned morons.
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Collateral Damage posted:From what I understood, antifa (or any of the counter protesters) never really got close to the nazis so you can't give them credit for shutting it down. They also started fighting journalists and had a sit in, demanding that the police release their arrested leader. Shockingly, the police did not meet that demand., and the Nazis packed their cars and went home.
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