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Jose posted:boris is currently polling most popular, then ruth davidson and then rees-mogg. Assuming boris crashes and burns and it ends up the other 2 you've got a lesbian vs a catholic with extremely regressive views I doubt Davidson would want to leave Scotland to lead the conservatives into an election they're probably going to lose. Plus she's a remainer which won't please most of the Tory members.
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Oct 2, 2017 14:38
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UrbicaMortis posted:I doubt Davidson would want to leave Scotland to lead the conservatives into an election they're probably going to lose. Plus she's a remainer which won't please most of the Tory members. I suspect her being a remainer won't be the base's biggest issue
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Oct 2, 2017 14:40
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Don't underestimate Rees-Mogg. He's an incredibly eloquent debater and with a formidable intellect whose rhetorical brilliance will stump Corbyn should they ever end up head to head 
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Gum posted:I suspect her being a remainer won't be the base's biggest issue Well, yes, that too. From what I've read, current thinking is that it will be amber Rudd plus a brexiteer through to the membership vote and then the Brexit candidate almost certainly wins the membership vote. Guess it depends who's on the up when the final straw breaks and they oust May.
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Bryter posted:Don't underestimate Rees-Mogg. He's an incredibly eloquent debater and with a formidable intellect whose rhetorical brilliance will stump Corbyn should they ever end up head to head
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Oct 2, 2017 15:43
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Bryter posted:Don't underestimate Rees-Mogg. He's an incredibly eloquent debater and with a formidable intellect whose rhetorical brilliance will stump Corbyn should they ever end up head to head "Not precarious. Not precarious. You're precarious", elaborated brain genius MP
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Oct 2, 2017 15:45
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Ruth Davidson isn't even an MP, lol if some safe seat warmer has to step aside for their new leader
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Party Boat posted:Ruth Davidson isn't even an MP, lol if some safe seat warmer has to step aside for their new leader I imagine there are a few Tories who are planning on jumping from the sinking ship right now, got to get that sweet business gig while the goings still good
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Oct 2, 2017 15:59
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Party Boat posted:Ruth Davidson isn't even an MP, lol if some safe seat warmer has to step aside for their new leader Rudd has a similar problem with her majority being shredded in the last election
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Oct 2, 2017 16:18
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Is the media and establishment doing the same thing to Mogg that they did to Paul Ryan in the US? Trying to paint him as a super-nerd brain genius who knows all about economics and budgets when he's really just an ideological moron who doesn't know his own state's minimum wage?
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Oct 2, 2017 16:23
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Frijolero posted:Is the media and establishment doing the same thing to Mogg that they did to Paul Ryan in the US? Not that kind of nerd really, at least not primarily. His status as a career backbencher has helped him cultivate an image of an expert on and proponent of proper parliamentary procedure and sovereignty. I guess a better analog might be John McCain? As with McCain though, he's perfectly happy to enable power grabs and ignore convention when it suits his party's position. The government recently made a power grab to ensure they have a majority on select committees despite having no majority in Parliament, which was a major departure from constitutional norms. Mogg, shockingly, didn't do his usual grandstanding about how it was an outrageous contravention of the principles laid down by Lord Bumblefuck of Uppinghamshire-Upon-Lyme in 1756, but instead... voted for it! Bryter has issued a correction as of 17:29 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Bryter posted:Not that kind of nerd really. His status as a career backbencher has helped him cultivate an image of an expert on and proponent of proper parliamentary procedure and sovereignty. I guess a better analog might be John McCain? So he is Ted Cruz. Has anyone checked to see if he is fond of step moms?
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Gum posted:Rudd has a similar problem with her majority being shredded in the last election I think the majority problem for Rudd is a bit overhyped. I doubt the Tories would balk at dropping her into a nearby safe seat and the upcoming boundary changes (now keeping 650 seats instead of dropping it to 600) mean they could do it pretty slickly. Her bigger issue for getting leadership is that she's a remainer and the party's membership isn't.
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UrbicaMortis posted:Her bigger issue for getting leadership is that she's a remainer and the party's membership isn't. wasn't a problem for May, stated principles only get in the way when you actually believe in them
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Fallen Hamprince posted:wasn't a problem for May, stated principles only get in the way when you actually believe in them Yeah but even if she goes into a contest talking about how much she loves Brexit, her opponent is going to have better brexit credentials, unless she ends up against Ken Clarke or something.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:wasn't a problem for May, stated principles only get in the way when you actually believe in them May never actually had to win a contested vote- she got to be leader by virtue of being the last back to not have a knife in it
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Gum posted:May never actually had to win a contested vote- she got to be leader by virtue of being the last back to not have a knife in it You know who else never won a contested vote and only got to power via appearing to be the last acceptable alternative...
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You know who else never won a contested vote and only got to power via appearing to be the last acceptable alternative... Hillary, no wait, Hitler.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You know who else never won a contested vote and only got to power via appearing to be the last acceptable alternative...
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jBrereton posted:Attlee? Attlee won a massive majority of Labour in the 1945 general election. 
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Frijolero posted:Hillary, no wait, Hitler. You've said Hillary twice for some reason.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You know who else never won a contested vote and only got to power via appearing to be the last acceptable alternative... Churchill?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Attlee won a massive majority of Labour in the 1945 general election.
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Churchill was correct to believe he was very popular with voters, it just happened that his party wasn't at all. The Conservative manifesto in 45 was officially promoted as "Mr Churchill's declaration of policy to the electors" to try and distract from the fact that they were Tory policies. Turns out the electorate were not quite that thick.
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Oct 2, 2017 22:24
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Oct 3, 2017 04:44
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Lol remember when Malcom or Owen or Jeffy, whatever that nerd from The Guardian is called, went through a phase where he thought Corbyn would sink the Labour Party 
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Frijolero posted:Lol remember when Malcom or Owen or Jeffy, whatever that nerd from The Guardian is called, went through a phase where he thought Corbyn would sink the Labour Party Remember when not just the entire nation, but the entire world, was counting down until the absolute boy would be forced to seppuku
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Taintrunner posted:Remember when not just the entire nation, but the entire world, was counting down until the absolute boy would be forced to seppuku I was right up till about two months before the election and saw the crowds Jezza was getting.
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Oct 3, 2017 05:00
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Frijolero posted:Lol remember when Malcom or Owen or Jeffy, whatever that nerd from The Guardian is called, went through a phase where he thought Corbyn would sink the Labour Party I didn't think Corbyn would sink the Labour Party but I did get awfully pessimistic at points. Honestly, Theresa May's early election is probably the only thing that stopped another pointless leadership challenge this year and the party descending even further into internal farce.
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forkboy84 posted:I didn't think Corbyn would sink the Labour Party but I did get awfully pessimistic at points. Honestly, Theresa May's early election is probably the only thing that stopped another pointless leadership challenge this year and the party descending even further into internal farce. it's still funny seeing the lovely half of labour reluctantly endorse corbyn while gritting their teeth hard enough to make diamonds
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Perfectly taken photo https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/915162555324223488
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Frijolero posted:Lol remember when Malcom or Owen or Jeffy, whatever that nerd from The Guardian is called, went through a phase where he thought Corbyn would sink the Labour Party Owen Jones, and he is now fully on the Corbyn Express after admitting he was wrong. Occasionally he stops to zinger Alastair Campbell
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Frijolero posted:Lol remember when Malcom or Owen or Jeffy, whatever that nerd from The Guardian is called, went through a phase where he thought Corbyn would sink the Labour Party I always believed Corbs would pull through, mostly because my rule of thumb when it comes to British politics is that when Graun columnists start predicting something in unison, you can bet on the opposite happening instead.
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