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Complaining about other people using the ignore list makes you sound like an insecure baby who can't stand the idea that someone out there might not want to read your worthless posts.
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sassassin posted:All those people have been loving each other for thousands of years. LOL look at this fool who thinks race is about genetics! :laughing so hard I'm crying: You silly boy, if we went strictly by genetics then there would be no "white people" or "people of color" at all. ^__^ But if we go by culture than it becomes quite obvious that "white" is synonymous with WASP (or rather, ASP) 
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Oct 3, 2017 17:22
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Wheat Loaf posted:Politics is a chore to get to grips with and talking about it is just as much of a chore. I usually think it's reasonably interesting but I don't blame anyone for not being interested in having a discussion about it. Indeed. Casual conversation is not about expressing ideas or debating facts, it's for reinforcing a sense of community and sameness among the members of the in-group, as well as demonstrating that you are willing to follow social niceties and norms.
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Oct 3, 2017 17:22
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I think you shouldn't be forced to talk about politics, but making a heavily politicized statement and then backing down on it when pressed seems like a much more specific scenario.
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Oct 3, 2017 18:13
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If you don't want to casually talk about politics, no problem. But if you think "a conversation about politics" is stating your opinion then the other person states theirs, that's stupid. Examining and defending your own "beliefs" is the only way to test yourself on whether you actually believe them or are just parroting something you've been indoctrinated about.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:08
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I wouldn't want to get tied down to any particular belief system if I could help it. (Edit: Because I phrased this poorly, I must clarify that I realise this is more or less impossible, which is why I said "if I could help it".) Wheat Loaf has a new favorite as of 19:23 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 19:16
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starkebn posted:If you don't want to casually talk about politics, no problem. But if you think "a conversation about politics" is stating your opinion then the other person states theirs, that's stupid. Examining and defending your own "beliefs" is the only way to test yourself on whether you actually believe them or are just parroting something you've been indoctrinated about. This. I don't think EVERY convo should be hot and heavy. But when something comes up and person A and B are talking, then person C steps up HEY I DON"T LIKE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS/RELIGION/ETC. Then he can gently caress off. He's a coward if he wants to try to shut it down because he feels uncomfortable.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:20
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think Germans have to be considered white. Not if Ben Franklin has anything to say about it.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:24
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Jastiger posted:This. I don't think EVERY convo should be hot and heavy. But when something comes up and person A and B are talking, then person C steps up HEY I DON"T LIKE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS/RELIGION/ETC. Then he can gently caress off. He's a coward if he wants to try to shut it down because he feels uncomfortable. alternatively they don't want the day/night to be ruined by a political debate
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Oct 3, 2017 20:25
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yeah I eat rear end posted:alternatively they don't want the day/night to be ruined by a political debate Cowardice.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:32
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Jastiger posted:Cowardice. GTAIV is still one of the best games in the series, although everyone knows the best game will always be Vice City.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:34
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Jastiger posted:Cowardice. Not even your promise of free beer would get me to go to des moines knowing that i'll be quizzed on my politics and religion instead of talking like normal people enjoying each other's company instead of fishing for something to get outraged about
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Oct 3, 2017 20:35
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Not even your promise of free beer would get me to go to des moines knowing that i'll be quizzed on my politics and religion instead of talking like normal people enjoying each other's company instead of fishing for something to get outraged about No its not even that. You've been in those conversations. They'll say something about politics or current events, then someone will be HO HO HO I bask in my ignorance, I don't TALK politics or religion *goes on rant about Obama being a muslim/latest tax problem/health insurance gripe*
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fruit on the bottom posted:GTAIV is still one of the best games in the series, although everyone knows the best game will always be Vice City. It's pretty obviously San Andreas you mook, the only one where you can run around as an obese black man in his underwear and an eye patch on a bike wearing a WWI German spike helmet running over gang rivals
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Oct 3, 2017 21:34
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Jastiger posted:No its not even that. You've been in those conversations. They'll say something about politics or current events, then someone will be HO HO HO I bask in my ignorance, I don't TALK politics or religion *goes on rant about Obama being a muslim/latest tax problem/health insurance gripe* So you're pissed that they end up talking politics? Sometimes I don't get you Jas
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Olive! posted:Complaining about other people using the ignore list makes you sound like an insecure baby who can't stand the idea that someone out there might not want to read your worthless posts.  if it gives someone relief to ignore my dumb posts i don't care Caufman posted:With no disrespect to anyone else, I admire people like Fatty Arbuckle and Melissa McCarthy who, when overweight, were committed to comedic entertainment. tbh i think fatty arbuckle's obesity indirectly destroyed his career since it was very likely he was once extorted by a known con artist who took advantage of the fact that a woman died of, among other things, a burst bladder at a party fatty also attended - instead of paying hush money arbuckle chose to fight it in court, he eventually won to the extent that the jury who heard all the evidence said: quote:Acquittal is not enough for Roscoe Arbuckle. We feel that a great injustice has been done him. We feel also that it was only our plain duty to give him this exoneration, under the evidence, for there was not the slightest proof adduced to connect him in any way with the commission of a crime. He was manly throughout the case and told a straightforward story on the witness stand, which we all believed. The happening at the hotel was an unfortunate affair for which Arbuckle, so the evidence shows, was in no way responsible. We wish him success and hope that the American people will take the judgment of fourteen men and woman who have sat listening for thirty-one days to evidence, that Roscoe Arbuckle is entirely innocent and free from all blame. but over the course of the trial(s) the media loved running with the accuser's version of the story that fatty arbuckle was indeed an obese woman hater who used his immense bulk to bully and overpower women and that his grotesque mass also resulted in the obliteration of a woman's bladder when he tried to impose himself upon her at a party - it was a colorful sensationalist story that sold in an age of yellow journalism and left a big impression on the public, a lot of his films were destroyed in the moral panic and he had trouble finding work after surviving court and he had to go behind-the-scenes and direct under a pseudonym partly given to him by buster keaton if anyone's curious, being 5'10" and ~250lbs in the 1920s was enough for people to believe that you were The Blob. vvvvv e: iirc he consciously did it because he was actually pretty fit underneath that chub, his humor relied on being impossibly acrobatic and agile for a man his size and he needed more ways to sell that size hard counter has a new favorite as of 22:06 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 21:39
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hard counter posted:
I mean to be fair he purposefully didn't wear the most flattering clothing to add to his bulk 
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Oct 3, 2017 21:43
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Blue Star posted:LOL look at this fool who thinks race is about genetics! :laughing so hard I'm crying: Did you just assume my loving gender jfc
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Oct 3, 2017 21:46
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Oct 3, 2017 21:49
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Aesop Poprock posted:So you're pissed that they end up talking politics? Sometimes I don't get you Jas Lol no you misunderstand. Its often a way to provide cover for poo poo posting and leaving. Like there will be a conversation, they have their views, as soon as it gets into a discussion, they want to shut it down rather than engage.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:25
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Aesop Poprock posted:It's pretty obviously San Andreas you mook, the only one where you can run around as an obese black man in his underwear and an eye patch on a bike wearing a WWI German spike helmet running over gang rivals God, what a good franchise
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Oct 3, 2017 23:10
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The fallacious story that Fatty Arbuckle crushed Lillian Gish to death is just another triumph of his comedic legacy.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think Germans have to be considered white.  Jastiger posted:No its not even that. You've been in those conversations. They'll say something about politics or current events, then someone will be HO HO HO I bask in my ignorance, I don't TALK politics or religion *goes on rant about Obama being a muslim/latest tax problem/health insurance gripe* You think: "Genetic screening for diseases is probably a good idea." You say: "I wholeheartedly support in eugenics." You think: "People who claim to never talk about politics but then give their political opinions anyway are annoying." You say: "No one should ever, under any circumstances, refuse to talk about politics." I mean, do you see the disconnect?
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Oct 4, 2017 00:13
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sassassin posted:Did you just assume my loving gender jfc Awww, you're repeating things you've seen others say. Are you going to say you identify as an "attack helicopter" next? How about a "triggered lol" joke in 2017?  Sorry to be a dick but c'mon my friend. Anyway, when James Earl Jones dies (hopefully not jinxing him here), there's going to be a bunch of stuff about his role as Darth Vader and blah blah blah "cultural icon". But i wanna preemptively say that he should be more remembered for his role as Thulsa Doom. Blue Star has a new favorite as of 01:25 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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When I die I hope I'm remembered for my long history of bad posting
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Blue Star posted:Anyway, when James Earl Jones dies (hopefully not jinxing him here), there's going to be a bunch of stuff about his role as Darth Vader and blah blah blah "cultural icon". But i wanna preemptively say that he should be more remembered for his role as Thulsa Doom. Sorry, his best role is clearly King Jaffe Joffer.
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Tiggum posted:They listed Scandinavians as "not white". I'm not saying that I would pay money to see Tiggum and Jastiger mud wrestle in their underwear but I'm not saying I wouldn't either
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Caufman posted:The fallacious story that Fatty Arbuckle crushed Lillian Gish to death is just another triumph of his comedic legacy. the whole scandal was pretty ridiculous and would pass for a dark comedy 100 years later when it was revealed in court that a medical expert confirmed there were no physical signs of assault trauma on the woman that died the prosecutors claimed that arbuckle used a phallus made from ice to commit the perfect crime even tho that's not even remotely how that works, an intercepted telegram from the accusers that said yes we are trying to extort this man for money was counted as ambiguous evidence of fraud because blackmail could be theoretically done in the name of justice and arbuckle also had severe 2nd degree burns on his rear end at the time which almost kept him from going the party at all and this came up in establishing his actual fitness to commit the deeds he was accused of while there's more to the story, nonetheless with no other evidence other than that fatty arbuckle was in fact comedically fat and maybe could crush a person the case passed through two undecided juries while his reputation imploded and friends abandoned him
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Tiggum posted:They listed Scandinavians as "not white". I never said those things, you just read that into them hyuk
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Tiggum posted:Sorry, his best role is clearly King Jaffe Joffer. I still get the Soul Glo song stuck in my head from time to time
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hard counter posted:the whole scandal was pretty ridiculous and would pass for a dark comedy 100 years later The woman who made the accusation just sort of disappeared from history afterwards, didn't she? I wonder whatever happened to her.
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Jastiger posted:I never said those things, you just read that into them hyuk That thing you do when you clearly say something and then claim you didn't and it's our fault for not understanding your true meaning is pretty annoying. Especially when you repeat your opinions time after time with the same wording while seeming confused why people are reacting the exact same way as before. You're either doing it intentionally or tiggum is right and you are very bad at translating your thoughts into words. anyway, Jastiger posted:Lol no you misunderstand. Its often a way to provide cover for poo poo posting and leaving. Like there will be a conversation, they have their views, as soon as it gets into a discussion, they want to shut it down rather than engage. The thing is when you say "engage" what you, in my experience, really mean is "get lectured at". You're right that they shouldn't give your political opinions if you don't want to have an argument, but I don't blame them for not wanting to hear how problematic and wrong they are. And it's not because they are afraid of their beliefs being challenged, it's because they know in advance they will disagree with what you say and don't want to get into a back and forth thing where each side spouts what they think and no agreement is ever reached, which, again, is a good reason to just never talk about it in general outside of the specific circumstances I mentioned.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The woman who made the accusation just sort of disappeared from history afterwards, didn't she? I wonder whatever happened to her. lol I'm sure absolutely nothing happened to her
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Tiggum posted:They listed Scandinavians as "not white". Living in dark snowy forests and eating rotten fish is rather ethnic, don't you think? yeah I eat rear end posted:The thing is when you say "engage" what you, in my experience, really mean is "get lectured at". You're right that they shouldn't give your political opinions if you don't want to have an argument, but I don't blame them for not wanting to hear how problematic and wrong they are. And it's not because they are afraid of their beliefs being challenged, it's because they know in advance they will disagree with what you say and don't want to get into a back and forth thing where each side spouts what they think and no agreement is ever reached, which, again, is a good reason to just never talk about it in general outside of the specific circumstances I mentioned. yeah I eat rear end posted:I lump anyone who identifies as a "leftist" in my "hardcore marxist" category because I don't care to understand the intricacies in their belief system. Yeah, you would do that.
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The notion that people owe you an account of their political affiliation, or their time and attention, at all, is just self-centered and entitled, and although I am sure that there is some degree of hyperbole present in the Unpopular Opinion thread, I sort of think that, if you often experience people reacting negatively to you giving them compliment irl, then the one thing that would absolutely cause otherwise bening compliment to turn sour, is if you come across as entitled to someone responding to you in a certain way.doverhog posted:Indeed. Casual conversation is not about expressing ideas or debating facts, it's for reinforcing a sense of community and sameness among the members of the in-group, as well as demonstrating that you are willing to follow social niceties and norms. My take-away from that is, that casual discussion is more fruitful. People don't actually change or develop their opinions in self-styled "serious" tree house debate club discussions, no matter how much they claim that their debating is some kind of ideological proving ground, they are more likely to improve their rhetoric than change their mind if engaging in a venue where they don't really have strong social ties with their conversation partners BIG BIC SQUAD posted:Salad is a genuinely enjoyable lunch/dinner option. I agree, but I'm not sure where that is unpopular. I'm sorta curious if people give you poo poo for eating salad at lunch :|
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Collateral Damage posted:Leather is a horrible material for any form of seat, especially in hot climates. I question the sensibility of anyone who voluntarily buys a leather couch or chooses leather seats for their car. Better than vinyl, as my mother likes to remind me every so often.
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Its not about entitlement or lectures, its about people putting their head in the sand any time something serious comes up. Im not a big lecture or shout down person at all. I just find it cowardice to either run away from all those discussions or to poo poo post about it and then shut down future discussion because you just wanted to spew your poo poo and run. It definitely should NOT be taboo to talk about whom you voted for for the same reason.
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If you define yourself by your politics then you are a completely boring person. It's like someone defining themselves by their religion, and if you're inflexible in either then what's the point in discussing anything with you.
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