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WebDog posted:I kind of hope Thargoids do a scorched earth in the game so the Devs could use it as an in universe excuse to redraw all the mechanics. At this point, this is exactly what I would like to see. I'm really tired of watching Elite being just on the edge of being a great game with mass appeal, and keeps slipping into grognard "hardcore" tropes. I can only imagine if all the CG's fail, the thargoids take over the bubble, and Braben throws a hitler-in-his-bunker style tantrum that the players ruined his storyline. WebDog posted:Sure they'll lose the hardcore fans but gain a more consistent playerbase. It seems that their hardcore fans want it this way. They want to prove how "hardcore" they are by being the player who put up with the bullshit the longest.
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Surprise Giraffe posted:Where are the hardcore bunch going to go, back to the 80s? Elites the only space sim in town. Ironically with the recent updates No Man's Sky does certain things better than Elite does, although calling it a "space sim" is definitely rather generous
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Fojar38 posted:Ironically with the recent updates No Man's Sky does certain things better than Elite does, although calling it a "space sim" is definitely rather generous If they put No Man's Sky's base building in where you have to collect stuff in a similar fashion to mining in space/on planets today into Elite wholesale and let me get little ship upgrades from the base and have it function as a place to store my ships and decorate, I'd probably never stop loving playing Elite.
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Oct 3, 2017 20:38
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Fojar38 posted:Ironically with the recent updates No Man's Sky does certain things better than Elite does, although calling it a "space sim" is definitely rather generous No Man's Sky has gradually changed from a terrible Look At Weird Stuff Simulator to a good Look At Weird Stuff Simulator but the flight handling is still just not good.
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The problem with Elite as a MMO is there's no home base or central area for everyone. The human bubble is HUGE and there's literally thousands of space stations, each of which is practically self-sustaining. There's no mechanism to encourage players to converge in any specific area. Weekly CGs partially fill that role but they can be hundreds of LYs apart from week to week, and are tailored to specific gameplay such as trade / bounty hunting.
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INTJ Mastermind posted:The problem with Elite as a MMO is there's no home base or central area for everyone. The human bubble is HUGE and there's literally thousands of space stations, each of which is practically self-sustaining. There's no mechanism to encourage players to converge in any specific area. Weekly CGs partially fill that role but they can be hundreds of LYs apart from week to week, and are tailored to specific gameplay such as trade / bounty hunting. True, but I think joining the DF helps this a bit. We have a home and have unguided fun just using our imagination. It's not the same as a built in system of really claiming space, but it works and it's fun. I feel most complaints about Elite can be solved with two solutions: 1. Stop playing Elite to earn money and get bigger ships. 2. Join Diamond Frogs. And 3. Get VR. Even mining is interesting when everything is 1.1 scale with you.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:21
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I bought this game recently for the PS4, it took 9 hours to install and I made the mistake of trying to travel to a system that ended up being about 1.4 days away. I don't know whether to love it or hate it, but I would appreciate some pointers. At this point I'm just trying to earn credits for a ship upgrade by trading & running missions.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:29
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Kumo posted:I bought this game recently for the PS4, it took 9 hours to install and I made the mistake of trying to travel to a system that ended up being about 1.4 days away. Well for one learn to use the jump drive 
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Kumo posted:I bought this game recently for the PS4, it took 9 hours to install and I made the mistake of trying to travel to a system that ended up being about 1.4 days away. Maybe it's not the same for PS4, but aren't there a series of tutorials in the main menu to teach the basic flight mechanics? Also, look up "obsidianant" on YouTube. Probably the most informative place to learn about Elite and he does make video specially for the PS4 version.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:56
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Df is largely run by insane spergs that love to kick sandcastles and build ours up while talking about everything under the sun. Come kick sandcastles with me I lead us on magical journeys that always bring gold.
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Kumo posted:I bought this game recently for the PS4, it took 9 hours to install and I made the mistake of trying to travel to a system that ended up being about 1.4 days away. You can jump to that star! Also, if you try to fly there in supercruise/newtonian you will never reach it. Well, technically you would, and could do a 0-fuel "jump" to get there, but hyperspace is the loading screen which loads the next system.  UCS Hellmaker posted:Df is largely run by insane spergs that love to kick sandcastles and build ours up while talking about everything under the sun. Come kick sandcastles with me I lead us on magical journeys that always bring gold. Seriously, why did you all give Lowtax  if you aren't getting in on PGS?
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I am part of DF and it's a lot of fun. What I mean is maybe a massively online game should provide a framework of community and meaningful tasks without relying on third party?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:You can jump to that star! Also, if you try to fly there in supercruise/newtonian you will never reach it. Well, technically you would, and could do a 0-fuel "jump" to get there, but hyperspace is the loading screen which loads the next system. I did and it was strange, my speed kept accelerating and I ended up going over 1,300 c (whatever c stands for, like I said I just started and am not familiar with all the terminology). Anyway, I'm probably close to my first ship upgrade, is there a recommendation? Cobra Mk. III, Asp, Hauler?
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Kumo posted:I did and it was strange, my speed kept accelerating and I ended up going over 1,300 c (whatever c stands for, like I said I just started and am not familiar with all the terminology). c is the speed of light, 299,792,458 m/s You should really watch the tutorial videos. I moved from Sidewinder to Asp. Cobra is better though.
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Kumo posted:I did and it was strange, my speed kept accelerating and I ended up going over 1,300 c (whatever c stands for, like I said I just started and am not familiar with all the terminology). If you have the destination system selected as the target and you're pointing at it, just press the engage hyperspace key and after a 5 second countdown you'll jump to that system. Edit - in VR the hyperspace sequence is really quite trippy 
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Kumo posted:I did and it was strange, my speed kept accelerating and I ended up going over 1,300 c (whatever c stands for, like I said I just started and am not familiar with all the terminology). Do the tutorials, they show you how to bypass niggling issues such as space being an impossibly large place to traverse at speeds even our tiny mammalian brains can barely comprehend.
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Kumo posted:I did and it was strange, my speed kept accelerating and I ended up going over 1,300 c (whatever c stands for, like I said I just started and am not familiar with all the terminology). The Cobra is an awesome ship and my favorite to fly. The Asp is effectively a bigger Cobra but it sits just at the point where ships gets a bit too sluggish to maneuver. For me at least  The Hauler is Elite's version of that beat up '97 Corolla that your awkward uncle insists on driving because it has soul. The Hauler doesn't have a soul as much as it has a screeching banshee masquerading as engine noise.
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I confused Adder with Asp there. Asp's are a big price jump up from the first few ships. Definitely go with Cobra as your next ship if it's a choice between the three you mentioned and even if you made the same mistake and said Asp when you meant Adder. Hauler sounds cool as gently caress though.
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chaosapiant posted:3. Get VR. Even mining is interesting when everything is 1.1 scale with you. This does interest me. What's the best VR setup for Elite?
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Gort posted:This does interest me. What's the best VR setup for Elite? I have an Oculus Rift with a Thrustmaster T-Flight X HOTAS. All I need the keyboard for is typing system names into the galaxy map and now that the route planner does neutron stars I find myself doing it soooo much less. I use the control mapping below (with a couple changes like twisting the stick for steering the SRV and swapping the camera debug button for "reset HMD"  I have a program called V ( http://hellov.io ) that gives me a little browser window overlay in VR so I can watch youtube/plex when I'm in VR, which is handy while exploring or just running cargo/passenger/data missions.
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Kind of a weird question but would something like that work without vr? I wouldn't mind setting it up for euro truck. I have a 2nd monitor but have a cockpit so looking at it is pretty distracting.
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This particular app uses the oculus sdk for the overlay so it's VR only. I don't know of a non-vr thing other than just running in windowed mode or using a 2nd monitor
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Gort posted:This does interest me. What's the best VR setup for Elite? I use an Oculus with a T1600000000m Hotas. It has enough buttons the that my hands stay firmly on the stick and throttle at all times. I personally think it makes Elite a much better game, since clearly the development focus is on the flight model the feeling of being in a spaceship.
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Man the salt is out with the new patch. Thargoids are adapting tactics, which is pretty cool, but gamers are pissed that the missiles have been nerfed to give the illusion of being less effective. Plus the fact the big update is a week old so players are getting left behind as they can't really gear up / afford to fight. One drawback of The Return is that it appears to be targeting top end players who can actively participate vs providing new features like multi/fighters.
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WebDog posted:Man the salt is out with the new patch. Thargoids are adapting tactics, which is pretty cool, but gamers are pissed that the missiles have been nerfed to give the illusion of being less effective. "Thargoids are adapting" is the official story, but no one believes it. Maybe it was FDev's intention all along, but their way of handling it, their tradition buggy patches, and history giving the playerbase the finger, it doesn't really matter anymore. Perception is reality, and FDev hosed up again.
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I think its a neat way to do balance changes, but I rather like the lore and am not spergy enough to get upset about content I can't even begin to touch.
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I'm still catching up on this thread, but I got in on the exploit this last weekend to get myself a bunch of money. I finally finished the grind for my Cutter tonight, and I think I'd like to kit it out to do some multicrew stuff with my 2 friends who have the game. I'd love someone more knowledgeable than me to show me what I should aim for on it. I'm never sure what types of weapons to put in which slot, which ones I should turret for a gunner, all that stuff. Probably an important note, I don't have much engineering stuff unlocked yet. That'll probably be my next thing I work on slowly. So just something we can dick around in doing some pve that doesn't require much, if any, engineering.
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Peachy Poo posted:I'm still catching up on this thread, but I got in on the exploit this last weekend to get myself a bunch of money. I finally finished the grind for my Cutter tonight, and I think I'd like to kit it out to do some multicrew stuff with my 2 friends who have the game. I'd love someone more knowledgeable than me to show me what I should aim for on it. I'm never sure what types of weapons to put in which slot, which ones I should turret for a gunner, all that stuff. Probably an important note, I don't have much engineering stuff unlocked yet. That'll probably be my next thing I work on slowly. So just something we can dick around in doing some pve that doesn't require much, if any, engineering. Something like this should be fine for PvE https://eddp.co/u/jpAWHhcH I've got mine engineered and do things slightly differently but the shield tank on this thing makes PvE trivial. Just change the guns to whatever flavour you like. I have the cores A rated but you can get away with lower on most if you can't afford those. Primary focus should be on the power plant if you have to pick. This thing turns like a brick so having everything at least gimballed is important. For fighters I'd suggest either the gu-97 with fixed beams (gelid f) (good for most things) or the f63 condor with fixed multicannons (rogue f) (great for bigger ships).
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WebDog posted:Man the salt is out with the new patch. Thargoids are adapting tactics, which is pretty cool, but gamers are pissed that the missiles have been nerfed to give the illusion of being less effective. gently caress gamers, though. Plus this: Hobold posted:I think its a neat way to do balance changes, but I rather like the lore and am not spergy enough to get upset about content I can't even begin to touch. Also, I don't even want to fight them, even if I could: I want to ally with them against the Empire and the Federation!
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Oh yeah I just read the latest patch notes where Thargoids didn't fire. This could lead to some amusement with people trying to find a peaceful outcome when the reality is they're meant to murder you but bugged out.
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I'm kind of a rookie explorer who hasn't mastered identifying the planetary sounds in the system map so I decided to cheat. Nothing is more disappointing than flying 200,000ls across a system only to find that you've just discovered another High Metal Content world. If you want to cheat too, here is how. What we're going to do is look at the OS level and see what sound the game is loading from disk when we hover over the planet in the system map. For that, we just need Microsoft / Sysinternal's Process Monitor. Run this and then add the following filters: code: Here's a list of all the planet types I've surveyed, but really all you need to look for is the millions place and 22=Water world, 35=Earth-like, 93=Ammonia world. Note that terraformable worlds have the same sounds as regular ones, so there is no way to tell from the sound if a high metal content world is worth scanning. code:Can you get in trouble for running this? No. This is not like many cheats, where it gets inside the process and reads data or detours important functions to collect information. This creates a file system driver in the operating system that all I/O requests pass through (network, registry, files, pipes, etc) so it is completely non-invasive. It is like having task manager open. CapnBry fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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Why don't you just use the visible guide? That seems like a lot of effort to do something trivial. Here's a link to the one I use https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/elite-dangerous/images/4/46/Dashboard-Hologram-Reference.png/revision/latest?cb=20170802180133 imgur is being weird so I'm not embedding it.
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CapnBry posted:I'm kind of a rookie explorer who hasn't mastered identifying the planetary sounds in the system map so I decided to cheat. Nothing is more disappointing than flying 200,000ls across a system only to find that you've just discovered another High Metal Content world. If you want to cheat too, here is how. It's interesting, but I don't really see the purpose beyond making money faster -and if you want to do that, you could just do something else to get money even faster. Maybe even use a cheat to get money even faster in this other profession. But I'm apparently not the right audience for this, since I tend to play Elite with Fake 80s Electro Funk playing in the background at full blast, ignoring all audio cues 90% of the time.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Why don't you just use the visible guide? That seems like a lot of effort to do something trivial. The tiniest image I have ever seen! I think this is the image you wanted to post but readable: 
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KakerMix posted:The tiniest image I have ever seen! I think this is the image you wanted to post but readable: Terraformable water worlds are worth more than Earth like worlds? Huh.
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Mike the TV posted:Terraformable water worlds are worth more than Earth like worlds? Huh. gently caress paradise, no one has to work.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Why don't you just use the visible guide? That seems like a lot of effort to do something trivial. …also, the only sounds you really need to learn is the bubbling, tweeting, and churning of water worlds, earthlikes, and ammonia worlds. The rest are either not really worth it, or inherently a gamble.
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tooterfish posted:They create jobs! On current evidence that's realism!
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Dabir posted:Then why is he the guy with the best thrusters which are only useful for combat? He's catering to explorers in Anacondas who prefer to drop into realspace to turn.
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