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The Walrus posted:
And "there's" should be "there are"  
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On the topic of paper strip effects. At the time of watching episode 8, when the woman at the radio station is killed by a woodsman, the close up of her death and her face gave me the image of a close up on the "film" and then blood and then a wobbling, rippling kind of effect as the image just tears up/falls apart. It felt visceral. Also the scenes with diane's tulpa seemed papery. She says she knows, Dougie tulpa seemed confused, and his disintegration is more physically coherent (hands shrink, weight drops, then it all goes to hell) than hers.
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Sep 30, 2017 08:08
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN3Ta4Dlx2M at least 4 years wait for a season 4, minimum. audrey? figure it out for yourself. good video.
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Sep 30, 2017 15:24
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ill see you in 4 years
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Sep 30, 2017 16:00
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I did figure it out! I want to know more about the franchise expansions of Norma's Double R
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Sep 30, 2017 16:36
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So, someone also noticed the weird noise, and slowed down the clip properly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI1eeIb-qlU It's Lynch talking to the gaffer or something. Even weirder, Sarah Palmer's face seems to turn into David Bowie's face from time to time. Here is another interview question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abfXvXFXvD8 I've also been watching An Idiot Abroad, and Karl Pilkington actually says something really amazing about the American Dream: Karl Pilkington posted:Everyone thinks you should be happy. It's all about living the dream. If you're living the dream, how do you know you're awake or if you're asleep? If it's exactly the same. That's what I quite like. I quite like having bad dreams. You wake up and go, "Thank god for that." If your dreams are better than your life, what is the point? Your dreams should never be better than your real life. We live inside an American Dream. And More fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 21:33
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that poo poo's creepy as gently caress whatever it is
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Sep 30, 2017 21:36
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I think I saw Briggs and Leland too
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Just to clarify, with the Richard thing - in Judy's pocket dimension, Judy has made Laura's 'essence' (outside of linear time after his failed attempt to undo the timeline) into Carrie and put her in the waitress reality to hide her. Cooper and DIane go into the dimension, but Judy tries to remake them into Richard and Linda to stop them. Diane becomes consumed by the Linda identity and dissapears. Cooper resists becoming Richard but slowly starts forget who is he and become Richard. Cooper, slowly becoming consumed by the Ricard peronsa, takes Laura to the house, they remember who they are, Laura screams and the dimension collapses. Did I get that right?
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Oct 1, 2017 22:25
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 I think this goes a long way to explaining the Phillip Jeffries teapot stuff. In schizophrenia, people often feel they are being manipulated by an "influencing machine", a device they can't see but which is used by unknown forces to influence their decisions and the things they see in a kind of mind control. The schizophrenic doesn't hallucinate three dimensionally, but sees patterns in two dimensional surfaces that appear "projected" by this unseen machine, the painting above depicts is. Freud thought that this was because the schizophrenic mistakenly locates the source of their desires and wishes outside of their body. Invisible forces like electricity sometimes play a role in their fantasies. This is part of an unrelated critical theory article I read the other day. I think this is what Jeffries and the place where the Fireman lives is supposed to be (was it ever confirmed that this is the "white lodge" or is that just something people kept repeating until everyone believed it?). It would explain the sense of paranoia in the series, the lodges are a schizophrenic hallucination of outside control.
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Shibawanko posted:
Jeffries lives in a motel inside the room above a gas station, and the gas station is a portal/part of the Black Lodge. As for the Fireman, who knows, but it seems that he was malnipulating Cooper, so the only lodge person who actually seemed to have Cooper's best interests in mind was MIKE.
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OldMemes posted:Just to clarify, with the Richard thing - in Judy's pocket dimension, Judy has made Laura's 'essence' (outside of linear time after his failed attempt to undo the timeline) into Carrie and put her in the waitress reality to hide her. Cooper and DIane go into the dimension, but Judy tries to remake them into Richard and Linda to stop them. Diane becomes consumed by the Linda identity and dissapears. Cooper resists becoming Richard but slowly starts forget who is he and become Richard. Cooper, slowly becoming consumed by the Ricard peronsa, takes Laura to the house, they remember who they are, Laura screams and the dimension collapses. I agree with this except I don't think it's Judy's dimension, it's the Fireman's.
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Oct 2, 2017 02:22
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OldMemes posted:Just to clarify, with the Richard thing - in Judy's pocket dimension, Judy has made Laura's 'essence' (outside of linear time after his failed attempt to undo the timeline) into Carrie and put her in the waitress reality to hide her. Cooper and DIane go into the dimension, but Judy tries to remake them into Richard and Linda to stop them. Diane becomes consumed by the Linda identity and dissapears. Cooper resists becoming Richard but slowly starts forget who is he and become Richard. Cooper, slowly becoming consumed by the Ricard peronsa, takes Laura to the house, they remember who they are, Laura screams and the dimension collapses. The issue with this interpretation is that he introduces himself as Dale Cooper at the door, and obviously seemed confused at who answered the door, so he never had an issue remembering who he was.
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Oct 2, 2017 02:48
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I'm finally watching this Q2 fan edit of Fire Walk With Me with The Missing Pieces added back in. "You notice what was pinned to the dress?" "A blue rose?" "Good. But I can't tell you about that."
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Oct 2, 2017 06:31
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kuddles posted:The issue with this interpretation is that he introduces himself as Dale Cooper at the door, and obviously seemed confused at who answered the door, so he never had an issue remembering who he was. Judy's world seems to have an effect on him, as he seems to be flickering in and out of his identity and into a different persona. It's noticable after he pretty snaps straight back into classic Coop after the coma, he's a lot quiter and colder at times during the waitress dimension - he seems really cruel during the diner scene. It's not that he's become Richard, but staying Cooper seems to be causing him a lot of strain and willpower. Diane didn't, so Judy managed to completely turn her into Linda.If Laura hadn't have remembered and scremed, he probably woudn't have to able to resist being remade as Richard much longer.
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read a neat theory that nadio is not diane and nadio's appearance in the sherrif's office and in episode 3 both mislead coop nadio pulls a lever and puts coop into dougie instead of where he was supposed to go i bet it was the fireman beating down the door in episode 3 trying to get in and save coop from nadio nadio might be judy!
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Oct 2, 2017 17:18
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"it is in our house now"
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Baloogan posted:read a neat theory that nadio is not diane and nadio's appearance in the sherrif's office and in episode 3 both mislead coop Hmm...the slashing sounds that Nido makes trying to prevent Cooper from going towards the outlet seem to be the same as the sounds of the glass box Experiment killing the loving couple.
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Oct 2, 2017 21:46
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Then why did the fireman tell Andy to save/protect Naido?
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Oct 3, 2017 00:36
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andy stuck her in prison
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Baloogan posted:andy stuck her in prison For her safety, after saying she needed to be protected. You can also see Naido react to Cooper's voice when they first meet in the opening episodes, she touches his face with compassion, as if she recognizes him. There's also no explanation for where the real Diane is if she isn't her. She's Diane.
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Oct 3, 2017 01:17
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why does she look like she does? no one else gets as transformed by the lodges How did diane enter the lodge?
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Is there any proof that Judy created the dimension that Cooper and Diane went to?
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Alan_Shore posted:Is there any proof that Judy created the dimension that Cooper and Diane went to? if she did she was pretty dumb putting her name on the diner where laura worked
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i guess the idea would be that its where laura goes after we are lead to believe sarah disappears her.
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Baloogan posted:How did diane enter the lodge? Evil Coop took her to above the convenience store after raping her.
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The Walrus posted:i guess the idea would be that its where laura goes after we are lead to believe sarah disappears her. uhhh i dont remember sarah disappearing laura, i remember laura disappearing and sarah screaming and trying to smash her picture
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For more sound chat, I rewatched 17 last night and noticed that right when Jeffries transports Cooper back in time, the sound drops out and is replaced by the exact same pulsing (ceiling fan?) sound that's heard when Sarah is running down the stairs in Coop's very first dream in S1E02. I just checked and you can briefly hear that same sound in FWWM at the exact moment that Cooper is apparently transported to the past (when Leland is looking out the window at Laura driving away with James, which is the first thing we see in ep 17 after Coop goes back in time).
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Volte posted:For more sound chat, I rewatched 17 last night and noticed that right when Jeffries transports Cooper back in time, the sound drops out and is replaced by the exact same pulsing (ceiling fan?) sound that's heard when Sarah is running down the stairs in Coop's very first dream in S1E02. I just checked and you can briefly hear that same sound in FWWM at the exact moment that Cooper is apparently transported to the past (when Leland is looking out the window at Laura driving away with James, which is the first thing we see in ep 17 after Coop goes back in time). wow. what? wow. I mean.. huh? what?! wow.
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kaworu posted:uhhh i dont remember sarah disappearing laura, i remember laura disappearing and sarah screaming and trying to smash her picture wiki says it's the other way around I'm at work so I can't check. Sarah wails inside her home and she tries to destroy Laura's homecoming photo. Cooper leads Laura through the woods, but she disappears and he hears her screams.
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Baloogan posted:why does she look like she does? no one else gets as transformed by the lodges Philip Jeffries wasn't always a teapot. OldMemes fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 17:43
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OldMemes posted:Philip Jeffries wasn't always a teapot. David Lynch clearly stated that Bowie isn't a tea pot. He's a tin machine.
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And More posted:David Lynch clearly stated that Bowie isn't a tea pot. He's a tin machine. David is just trying to mislead us. He's definitely a teapot. 
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Oct 4, 2017 05:46
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Is he short and stout?
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https://twitter.com/Kyle_MacLachlan/status/913123577561538561
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And More posted:David Lynch clearly stated that Bowie isn't a tea pot. He's a tin machine. 
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You could even say Philip is...floating in a tin can.
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