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M_Gargantua posted:Hey, could have made the headline: "America continues to be terrible, we've been murdering Indians and protestors for decades" Consider that, by saying that this was the deadliest shooting in US history, all the other worse massacres are being dismissed, minimized, or forgotten. And it really doesn't send a good message when most of those worse massacres happened to not white people. There's nothing stupid about pointing out facts.
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In modern times, by a single perpetrator, using a gun.
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Oct 4, 2017 18:35
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worst mass shooting in America of people we consider to be important
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Oct 4, 2017 18:42
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Largest mass shooting by a single person who was white and rich.
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Oct 4, 2017 18:47
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Largest mass shooting at maximum effective range.
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Oct 4, 2017 18:55
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It must be fun to be conflicted about how important something is because the guy was a rich white guy, but most of his victims were also probably white. loving mental gymnastics how does it work?!
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Oct 4, 2017 19:02
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I know right. I've been alternating between doing cartwheels and laughing at clips of fox news being flummoxed.
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Oct 4, 2017 19:21
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Largest but also most annoyingly talked about shooting
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html This article was posted by a LAS VEGAS EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE. I want to face-palm but it's so loving depressing I just want to drink tequila until I'm blind. I had to delete her along with a few other friends of mine. The rest of whom are veterans who live or have lived in Las Vegas and they're all falling for the same dumb poo poo. I'm phone posting or I would copy paste some of that poo poo so no one else had to click it.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html What kills me is idiots finding news videos of people from immediately after the shooting saying they believed there were two shooters, and using it as definitive proof that there were two shooters and it's a cover up.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html Having a family full of medical people; I find that nurses straddle the line between amazingly competent but uniquely and massively ill informed about anything that is outside their immediate direct experience. They also seem much more prone to falling for poo poo like this on the internet or even in person. Isn't there a phrase for that? Something to do with Engineers applying pure math principles to complex and interdependent situations.
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Immanentized posted:Having a family full of medical people; I find that nurses straddle the line between amazingly competent but uniquely and massively ill informed about anything that is outside their immediate direct experience. They also seem much more prone to falling for poo poo like this on the internet or even in person. It's the Ben Carson and Fighter Pilot Principle.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html perhaps if you watched a few more documentaries you would know the "lone gunman" myth is used by the government all the time. For example, Edward Blake was the second shooter that killed JFK.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:perhaps if you watched a few more documentaries you would know the "lone gunman" myth is used by the government all the time. For example, Edward Blake was the second shooter that killed JFK. I understood that reference
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Oct 4, 2017 19:49
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Immanentized posted:Having a family full of medical people; I find that nurses straddle the line between amazingly competent but uniquely and massively ill informed about anything that is outside their immediate direct experience. They also seem much more prone to falling for poo poo like this on the internet or even in person. The XKCD Effect™
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Immanentized posted:Having a family full of medical people; I find that nurses straddle the line between amazingly competent but uniquely and massively ill informed about anything that is outside their immediate direct experience. They also seem much more prone to falling for poo poo like this on the internet or even in person. This definitely also applies to doctors. Even ones besides Ben Carson. Oh, and there's all the engineers who spend their retirement as cranks trying to disprove relativity, quantum field theory, or the round earth. It also applies ten million percent to us software-writers. See for example Soylent and all the other one-weird-trick-style startups.
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At least Snopes was really quick to call the Vegas conspiracy theorists idiot. http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:At least Snopes was really quick to call the Vegas conspiracy theorists idiot. Clearly they're in on it.
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Oct 4, 2017 21:02
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Jfc I'm stuck listening to Trump and it's like listening to someone with major head injuries
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Heh the error page still links you to Lowtax's twitter account He's been suspended from Twitter in case you have an actual life and no time to follow these things
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Mr Nice!, you are (or almost) a Law Talkin' Guy, why would the guilty verdict be dismissed? Former Sheriff Joe Arpaio's presidential pardon accepted by federal judge quote:A U.S. District Court judge in Phoenix has accepted the presidential pardon of former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
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Nick Soapdish posted:Mr Nice!, you are (or almost) a Law Talkin' Guy, why would the guilty verdict be dismissed? paging real lawyer joat mon
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Immanentized posted:Having a family full of medical people; I find that nurses straddle the line between amazingly competent but uniquely and massively ill informed about anything that is outside their immediate direct experience. They also seem much more prone to falling for poo poo like this on the internet or even in person. Not the term you're looking for but as a Scientist I always keep Richard Feynman's quote on hand for that situation. quote:I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy — and when he talks about a nonscientific matter, he will sound as naive as anyone untrained in the matter.
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Oct 4, 2017 21:29
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The internet has made stupidity amazingly fast and efficient. Before you actually had to work on your conspiracy theory idiocy, really spend some time and dedication on the process to hand craft a finely honed instrument of retarded mental gymnastics to set yourself above the sheeple by knowing the REAL truth. Now you can just crowd source your dumb bullshit and a million people will all pitch in to mass produce your stupid and spread it around the world instantly. Kinda sad that the old ways are falling out of fashion.
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Nick Soapdish posted:Mr Nice!, you are (or almost) a Law Talkin' Guy, why would the guilty verdict be dismissed? The logic his lawyers used is that if you're pardoned you can't appeal the conviction because it's moot. They had case law for people that were pardoned while pending a new trial.
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bird food bathtub posted:The internet has made stupidity amazingly fast and efficient. Before you actually had to work on your conspiracy theory idiocy, really spend some time and dedication on the process to hand craft a finely honed instrument of retarded mental gymnastics to set yourself above the sheeple by knowing the REAL truth. The funniest one I saw was "HOW DID AN UNTRAINED MAN WITH NO HELP GET 400 POUNDS OF EQUIPMENT UP TO THE 30TH FLOOR!!!?!!?!".
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KildarX posted:The funniest one I saw was "HOW DID AN UNTRAINED MAN WITH NO HELP GET 400 POUNDS OF EQUIPMENT UP TO THE 30TH FLOOR!!!?!!?!". I've done my best to refute that one in three separate people's stories now. Might be futile, but I have to try.
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mlmp08 posted:"Welcome to Mandalay Bay where we don't have elevators and you must carry all your belongings in using only one trip!" And yet I still had to tip the bellboy, what a country!?
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I thought the entire point of Las Vegas hotels were they don't ask questions unless you damage the room.
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Vasudus posted:I thought the entire point of Las Vegas hotels were they don't ask questions unless you damage the room. Lets see if they start asking a few after this.
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Vasudus posted:I thought the entire point of Las Vegas hotels were they don't ask questions unless you damage the room. The Palazzo or whatever it's name was has security at the elevator to the rooms to prevent people from bringing whores up oddly enough.
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MazelTovCocktail posted:The Palazzo or whatever it's name was has security at the elevator to the rooms to prevent people from bringing whores up oddly enough. There are a few that do. Not like they really know the difference unless it's a) obvious or b) they've seen them before. Those security folks really just go "let me see your room key" and then go back to looking at their phones.
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at the date posted:Whataboutism specifically refers to defending your side from an accusation by accusing your opponent of something else without actually denying the original charge. Just because you can rephrase an article like the one about the historical massacres as "What about other massacres" does not mean it's whataboutism. Exactly, this mass shooting still isn't as bad as the bowling Green massacre.
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Oct 4, 2017 22:28
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Oh my god, that interview was this year. After the inauguration.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:There are a few that do. Not like they really know the difference unless it's a) obvious or b) they've seen them before. Yeah, I just thought it was funny they even care.
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