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Latin Pheonix posted:He definitely strikes me as a man who lacks moral fibre. I get the impression that, while he's a nightmare boss to his underlings, he gets absolutely steamrolled by Sandi and Ortwin. It may have gone down as you said, but I think it's also possible that he genuinely did want to make a game (competence notwithstanding) but got steamrolled by Sandi's aspirations and maybe (pure speculation here) Ortwin/Sandi's desire to drastically monetise the game's crowdfunding. When I see him talk about sales or ships he doesn't seem hugely enthusiastic about it; sometimes he almost seems reticent about it (not that it stops him, of course). talk to him without ~ spacedreams~ going on and the man is completely stupid how people thought he is or was some kind of coding genius is beyond me
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I mean, its easy to sound smart when you have no idea what you're talking about and the people listening don't have a loving idea either
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Oct 5, 2017 02:39
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Roberts questioned the chatbox. He is a genius.
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TheAgent posted:he's just kinda dumb Who are we talking about here?
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Bushmaori posted:Who are we talking about here?
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Ghostlight posted:Why the gently caress would a sweater need kickstarting. The alpacas need kick-starting, especially on cold mornings. They really are a bastard to start.
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Beet Wagon posted:Lando is the "wild card" I think. At any given moment when he's on screen it looks like he's about to snap and start screaming about how it's all a scam and CIG are harvesting the organs of Full Sail graduates in the basement. Soylent Citizen is people! Mate, if you seriously believe that..... He's loving every minute being part of this gravy train. No more low grade cardboard boxes for him.
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TheAgent posted:Chris Roberts, noted game designer and director With his *Wing Commander: the movie* level of genius and *Star Citizen* level of directorship.
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Only thing that bugs me about starfighter, is that it seems like the rebel ships are way better. At least a wing versus tie intercepter. I rack up far more kills in the a wing than I do the tie.
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No idea what's BF's deal, but rebel fighters always were better than TIEs. T-F/T-I don't even have shields.
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: a question or seven for you regarding lumberyard/cryengine...
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much like if you're 3+ generations out from your ancestors being pirates, if you're 10 or so years out from a released game all the horrible hacks you did to get it out the door turn into "clever workarounds" "Time turned the evil bastards into rogues, and rogue was a word with a twinkle in its eye and nothing to be ashamed of." Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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That's actually not clever and in fact incredibly lovely. A random memory bug happens, but the game crashes with "CD read error" so you think your CD is scratched instead, rather than game just being a buggy piece of poo poo.
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yes but you see they were in a hurry, and it was years ago so it's not relevant anymore, right? right? gets a CD Read Error while ragdoll ejecting through the windshield of his autism chariot ...oh 
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TheAgent posted:Chris Roberts, noted game designer and director He's all that and more..... Chris Roberts. Doing lovely stuff since day one. 
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Truga posted:That's actually not clever and in fact incredibly lovely. A random memory bug happens, but the game crashes with "CD read error" so you think your CD is scratched instead, rather than game just being a buggy piece of poo poo. Passing the blame seems fairly apt and well practiced for CR tbh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw Sabreseven fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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Truga posted:That's actually not clever and in fact incredibly lovely. A random memory bug happens, but the game crashes with "CD read error" so you think your CD is scratched instead, rather than game just being a buggy piece of poo poo. "HDD read error. Please upgrade to an official Star Citizen SSD"
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:yes but you see they were in a hurry, and it was years ago so it's not relevant anymore, right?  
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Bumbler posted:"HDD read error. Please upgrade to an official Star Citizen SSD" Insuffcient sound card fidelity, please contact your sound driver manufacturer
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Truga posted:That's actually not clever and in fact incredibly lovely. A random memory bug happens, but the game crashes with "CD read error" so you think your CD is scratched instead, rather than game just being a buggy piece of poo poo. "Oh, your framerate is bad... it's uh, a problem with AWS.
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Truga posted:No idea what's BF's deal, but rebel fighters always were better than TIEs. T-F/T-I don't even have shields. Well, the reasoning behind that was that the empire went with power in numbers, and rebels needed fighters with more durability, since they were fewer in number. Doesn't really lend itself to a balanced 12v12 fight. And going by the movies, shields really didn't offer much, if any protection, maybe 1-2 hits/glancing blows.
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Natron posted:Toops should sue. Am I the ELE?
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Dogeh posted:He's all that and more..... Nah that was actually good. Why do work if nobody will ever know the difference?
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Let's get one thing nice and sparkling clear. Chris Roberts is a loving con-man. Yeah, he's stupid, but what makes him a con-man is that he unrepentantly lies, and makes forward-looking promises for the sole purpose of manipulating people into doing what he wants. He's like the Rain Man of con-artists. Just because he's a loving subnormal dolt who's never really sure what he's doing or why doesn't change what he ultimately is.
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Crobberts is intolerable. Defend kebab.
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Toops posted:Let's get one thing nice and sparkling clear. Chris Roberts is a loving con-man. Yeah, he's stupid, but what makes him a con-man is that he unrepentantly lies, and makes forward-looking promises for the sole purpose of manipulating people into doing what he wants. Before he cons anyone else he cons himself.
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Goosfraba posted:The Stimperor's New Groove. I hope it comes in black
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Before he cons anyone else he cons himself. I agree, his ability to believe his own stories as they're being made is pretty loving remarkable.
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big nipples big life posted:Lando got his job because he is basically Ben but looks less like a bloated corpse, he is a giant fanboy, that is his only qualification. I still have no idea how the thread canon of him being down on the project got started. thank u poster Finally someone else realizes the absurdity of saying Lando is some sort of double agent who is going to whistleblow the poo poo out out of all this lol the dude is Ben 2.0 if Ben hadn't metamorphasized into a house
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AP posted:https://twitter.com/discolando/status/915675116926787584 Space Whale is not a joke. This is going to be used to meet their community engagement quota during the CitizenCon presentation. Expect to see the space whale show up as a 'cool inside joke' before they reveal this year's baby capital ship concept sale. I'm calling it.
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Ghostlight posted:Why the gently caress would a sweater need kickstarting. Perhaps this one is JPEG certified, so you can look at pretty pictures of it for months before it (maybe) arrives?
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Lladre posted:I wonder who at CiG mistakenly backed that alpaca guy. With the Alpaca mystery, maybe all will be revealed in a future CIG video where someone has an itchy grey overpriced top on in the background. But with the Kickstarter backing, to actually back you would have to put payment details in wouldn't you, and it would have probably already been linked to the CIG accound due to SC campaign? So this would indeed have come out of backer moneys? Disgusting CIG.
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Ghostlight posted:Why the gently caress would a sweater need kickstarting. Perhaps this one is JPEG certified, so you can look at pretty pictures of it for months before it (maybe) arrives?
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Toops posted:Let's get one thing nice and sparkling clear. Chris Roberts is a loving con-man. Yeah, he's stupid, but what makes him a con-man is that he unrepentantly lies, and makes forward-looking promises for the sole purpose of manipulating people into doing what he wants. Yes, we are way past the time that Robert's realised his (same) dream project he's been having for years is infeasible even with what he thought was state of the art tech and a great game engine. Not without shortcuts, reducing scope and compromising lots of stuff. And also not without a game design document. Even if he didn't get that by himself, a few of his team people (I guess some of which were fired or moved on since then) must have told him that repeatedly. It has probably sunk in at some point. If he is actually as stupid as he comes across, then the full realisation happened sometime last year. But he probably just looks like a thumbman, but is a lot smarter as to know when he is actively scamming people, and I think he knew by 2014 -- at latest. We are also past the point where he could first come clean and explicitly go "well, this feature is pointless, this is not fun, this is just overhead, this can be better performing if we take that shortcut, this is only getting released if we skip all the extra "fat", etc. Our development process is all backwards, we will focus on feasible and fun mechanics, instead of motion caps and model fidelity". Instead this year he went "he have the money, we can make the full game and if you want an even better game, then I guess give us more of your money, but you don't really have to -- except you know it's not going to be as best *hint* *hint* *nudge* *faaart*. Because he doesn't care about a game being developed anymore. He cares about the "image" of a game/movie project being created, he cares about the marketing, and now that this is all failing in an obvious manner, he probably cares about getting as much more money he can and then bolting to some safe place to live happily ever after. Implicitly, by missing all the set dates, severely cutting down his Jesus patch and still being unable to release a new alpha --- for gently caress's sake, and having 2-3 disgraceful public shows since last year's GamesCom, he has shown that he won't be able to do any of what he has been promising, as he promised them, and probably won't have anything really viable anytime soon. But quite a few backers have stuck to the full of poo poo sinking ship (not in any way intended as a pun about Titanic), and think that all the previous stuff mean "They are polishing. We are getting the best experience. This is how game development works" and ignoring all the many, many red flags. Maybe that's the justification in Crobblers mind. They are happy, I am happy, we all gain something from this -- except I am getting money and they are getting horseshit out of this, but you know... they are happy! Tax: 
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