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Holy poo poo. Everyone look up Jeremy Piven’s new show “Wisdom of the Crowd” and tell me that isn’t one of the dumbest/most hosed up concepts for a show. Hey, remember all those horrible incidents where internet detectives tried to solve poo poo on their own and got it horribly wrong. Let’s make a show about if they didn’t get it horribly wrong and brush-over that whole “getting it horribly wrong” thing.
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Its weird seeing one of our most active members in the Pittsburgh DSA get really mad about Chapo because Felix said some nice things about Liz Bruenig nearly a year ago. Then again the recent Abortion Bill news probably was the reason for it.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:08
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I mean is Liz Bruenig out there pushing for anti-abortion legislature? Always seemed to me like her pro-life stance is strictly personal and that she just supports alternatives to abortion.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:23
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yea I'm gonna be incredibly unhappy if I find out Bruenig is actively supporting that poo poo instead of her usual 'look this is what I think, I support alternatives, but the option should exist for others' takes on that stuff. Speaking of left twitter meltdowns, PixelatedBoat's was really funny yesterday because it involved the rare 'log off, log back on, instantly start bullshit again' move.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:28
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I remember a tweet from Spring 2016 along the lines of "A bunch of people should apologize to Elizabeth Bruenig after Hillary picks Tim Kaine." Writers can believe whatever dumb things they like but there is an obvious ceiling on positions of power in a real left movement.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:39
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Not really seeing a meltdown. Just a dood who’s understandably frustrated with this bullshit. Also, new episode popped and I’m guessing it’s about the shooting based on its title. Gonna make dinner and listen to it
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Oct 5, 2017 04:39
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yea I like Bruenig, I follow her on Twitter and she seems like a very nice person, but no I'm never gonna vote for her for office or anything. A private citizen personally having issues with abortion but not opposing it? A-Ok, freedom and all that jazz. Tim Kaine's dumb rear end 'well I personally don't like it but don't oppose it (except those times I did oppose it woops)' poo poo shoulda been our first red flag.
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Boywhiz88 posted:Not really seeing a meltdown. Just a dood who’s understandably frustrated with this bullshit. Also, new episode popped and I’m guessing it’s about the shooting based on its title. Gonna make dinner and listen to it I just mainly found it funny because it boiled down to a dude being told by a bunch of minority leftists that a disarming movement always targets minorities over all others and with the over-militarized police that's basically exactly how genocides happened before and him going 'nah but this time the cops can be trusted to enforce the laws fairly' and getting very mad online when people went 'what, no'. Like, I'm really anti-gun but we should probably make step one 'disarm the police' to avoid the whole 'state has all the power' thing getting worse.
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Oct 5, 2017 04:45
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Henchman of Santa posted:I mean is Liz Bruenig out there pushing for anti-abortion legislature? Always seemed to me like her pro-life stance is strictly personal and that she just supports alternatives to abortion. Btw its going to be cool seeing Tim Faust in our tiny Letter Carrier's Union hall for his lecture
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achillesforever6 posted:Its weird seeing one of our most active members in the Pittsburgh DSA get really mad about Chapo because Felix said some nice things about Liz Bruenig nearly a year ago. Then again the recent Abortion Bill news probably was the reason for it. yeah, that was really weird. i really dont understand why people are obsessed with at a catholic lady whose stance is "i disagree with abortion, but i don't think the government should make it illegal". if a man held this position, he would get shredded, but since this is a woman then the fallback is "she believes in demons!!! and men defend her!!!". i'm honestly baffled
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Oct 5, 2017 05:37
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sexpig by night posted:I just mainly found it funny because it boiled down to a dude being told by a bunch of minority leftists that a disarming movement always targets minorities over all others and with the over-militarized police that's basically exactly how genocides happened before and him going 'nah but this time the cops can be trusted to enforce the laws fairly' and getting very mad online when people went 'what, no'. PB is also an Australian and that definitely informs his take on the issue. And he did deal with some lunatics in there as well, like someone calling him transphobic based on literally nothing. The gun debate is so exhausting and nobody looks good during it.
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sexpig by night posted:I just mainly found it funny because it boiled down to a dude being told by a bunch of minority leftists that a disarming movement always targets minorities over all others and with the over-militarized police that's basically exactly how genocides happened before and him going 'nah but this time the cops can be trusted to enforce the laws fairly' and getting very mad online when people went 'what, no'. i found it funny that people came out of the woodwork to get mad at a guy who posts jokes for holding the default liberal position on gun control, and not the position of revolutionary marxist-leninists. he wasn't even tweeting about confiscating guns, just nonspecific gun control, yet extremely-online dorks unlocked their accounts for long enough to rant at him for wanting to steal the guns of the revolutionary vanguard. and more pragmatically: https://twitter.com/BillHumphreyMA/status/914966870603784192
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Oct 5, 2017 05:45
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Pixelated Boat comes from a country where they did the thing he was advocating and it empirically worked, and the main arguments against his view were that minorities need guns to defend themselves (which I don't think is really happening since cops aren't shot, and in the few cases I have heard of they get put in jail anyway, legality not mattering), that guns are necessary for leftists to do an armed revolution (which is insane on a lot of levels) and that enforcement would target black people more than white people, which is a little more reasonable but the response to that was incredibly bad faith about how he obviously meant it'd be done in way and enforce the state monopoly on violence. All he said was some poo poo like "I don't want anyone to have guns, period" and everyone acts like he's some loving cryptofascist because he didn't support some weird libertarian streak that popped up for a day.
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Oct 5, 2017 08:49
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To be frank, after the election there was a period of time where you had major nominally twitter left folk (including Felix, MurderBryan and ArmyStrang) outright championing a pro-gun stance to the point they were hinting at DSA Gun and Self-Defense training programs. Seeing that stance go from "Yes, the left must become less scared of guns so we can prevent things like the Heather Meyer incident and let's also consider the black panthers, also it's elitist and the working class would respect us more" to "Oh look, the cosplay left and the extremely online suddenly think AR-15 are WOKE now" on one hand relieves me since at least NOW people are actually talking about harm reduction/giving an actual poo poo about mental health, but on the other it feels like they're throwing a bunch of folk under the bus over this.
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Oct 5, 2017 09:08
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Arguing over the merits of gun ownership is a dumb waste of time but that's the fight we get when people are more willing to say they like guns than say they don't care about gun control. The premium episode points out the uncharacteristic ambition and solidarity of Democrats on this one issue.
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Oct 5, 2017 12:52
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To be frank, a bunch of her detractors literally had to handle left government policies that had to severely compromise with a """""Catholic Left"""""" which meant super restrictive abortion policies *cough Brazil* so it gets extra painful when the response of "Hey don't repeat the same mistake Dilma Rouseff did and end up juggling literal children being considered demons for not wanting to get a baby... as someone who literally had to go thru that." is "Ah, you're just like that because you're extremely online and don't go outside". By the "super nice lady" herself. Aaaand it doesn't help that after Tim Kaine and mainstream Democrats starting to compromise with Red states regarding that particular issue with much anger, stuff like this floats up. You can't quite juggle at the same time "How dare the Dems compromise on this matter" and then get upset when you end up well. also compromising on this matter.
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Oct 5, 2017 13:51
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rumble in the bunghole posted:Pixelated Boat comes from a country where they did the thing he was advocating and it empirically worked, and the main arguments against his view were that minorities need guns to defend themselves (which I don't think is really happening since cops aren't shot, and in the few cases I have heard of they get put in jail anyway, legality not mattering), that guns are necessary for leftists to do an armed revolution (which is insane on a lot of levels) and that enforcement would target black people more than white people, which is a little more reasonable but the response to that was incredibly bad faith about how he obviously meant it'd be done in way and enforce the state monopoly on violence. All he said was some poo poo like "I don't want anyone to have guns, period" and everyone acts like he's some loving cryptofascist because he didn't support some weird libertarian streak that popped up for a day. Drama like this plays out anytime an Australian (or any non-American) tries to argue guns with Americans. The US might have exported its culture worldwide but when it comes to guns there is a massive cultural divide between them and the rest of the world that makes mutual understanding impossible. A couple of decades of NRA propaganda has really hosed them up all across the political spectrum. Even on the left the gun worship is so strong that they will resort to the slimiest arguments to justify their outrage. Like accusing PB of being transphobic for supporting gun control and getting super mad about it requires a level of unconscious devotion to guns that virtually no one outside of America can understand.
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Oct 5, 2017 14:22
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As a UK goon the devotion is surprising when even mass shootings will have people defending unrestricted gun access. The idea you can just buy a gun without any checks is so loving it there it's like you're on a different planet
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Oct 5, 2017 14:25
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I think it's funny a nerd got ran off of twitter
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Oct 5, 2017 14:39
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:I think it's funny a nerd got ran off of twitter He wasn't though. Unless you're talking about someone else.
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Oct 5, 2017 14:45
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Boywhiz88 posted:Holy poo poo. Everyone look up Jeremy Piven’s new show “Wisdom of the Crowd” and tell me that isn’t one of the dumbest/most hosed up concepts for a show. Remember all those horrible incidents where professional detectives tried to solve poo poo on their own and got it horribly wrong? It's a fictional TV show.
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Oct 5, 2017 14:49
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Boywhiz88 posted:Holy poo poo. Everyone look up Jeremy Piven’s new show “Wisdom of the Crowd” and tell me that isn’t one of the dumbest/most hosed up concepts for a show. between that and the show about the tech billionaire buying high-tech weapons and poo poo for a police station there is some scary poo poo out there that straight up sucks off tech whizkids and endorsing mass surveillance and police power
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Oct 5, 2017 14:53
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Neon Belly posted:Remember all those horrible incidents where professional detectives tried to solve poo poo on their own and got it horribly wrong? On one hand, sure. On the other hand, remember that time Scalia acted like "24" was a documentary and not fiction?
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Oct 5, 2017 14:53
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Henchman of Santa posted:He wasn't though. Unless you're talking about someone else. I dunno, I have no idea who any the cutesy name poster squad is on twitter
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Boywhiz88 posted:Sounds like someone who never listened to Frost/Christman.... Matt Christman of Earthling Cinema fame posted:There actually is, [garbled] Superman is a tankie, so it kinda makes sense. 2. He then asserts that the director's creative agenda is being mad at a fictional character. In other words, he disclaims his own reading of the film in favour of bizarre paranoid fantasies about the filmmakers' motivations. (Goons like to whine that CineD is a nest of Marxist-psychoanalytic film theory. You know what's actually esoteric, reading stuff into films that's not there, and completely loving insane? Imagining Zack Snyder is a hardcore Objectivist and composing novel-length interpretations of his films through the lens of Objectivism because he wants to adapt The Fountainhead. That's, like, a rite of passage for lovely YouTube movie reviewers at this point.) 3. Nerd reviewers love to project their own childishness onto this imaginary figure of a child. They imagine, it seems, some Dickensian moppet being traumatized by the new grimdark adaptation of Power Rangers or whatever. Remember when Tim Burton made a Batman flick where the villain mutilates his girlfriend and kills hundreds of people in a chemical weapons attack? I saw it when I was six, like a million other kids. We're fine. 4. Matt Christman, cohost of Chapo Trap House, thinks it's terrible and depressing to feature a bunch of self-important media figures just to make them look like buffoons. I'll just let that self-own stand by itself. Also he thinks Blade Runner sucks, LOL. Does he ever explain his weird distaste for Ridley Scott? If he thought The Duellists was middling and that the painterly shots were a gimmick, I wonder what he thinks of Barry Lyndon.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:29
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drat, matt continues to be the best and most correct dry boy
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Oct 5, 2017 16:31
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Here's my take: super hero poo poo sucks.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:38
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Explain yourself, about the super hero crap
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Serf posted:drat, matt continues to be the best and most correct dry boy
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Serf posted:drat, matt continues to be the best and most correct dry boy (Agreed, except that I still like Blade Runner.)
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prefect posted:(Agreed, except that I still like Blade Runner.) oh yeah blade runner rules. i'll forgive matt on that one
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Oct 5, 2017 17:02
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Superman v Batman is one of the worst movies I have ever seen
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Harry Potter is a super hero
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Superman v Batman is one of the worst movies I have ever seen noteworthy only for somehow making the two most popular superhero characters in the world incredibly boring
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Thelma and Louise and Alien are the only good Ridley Scott movies
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I like Blade Runner, but I am aware that whenever the new movie comes out, I am about to stop liking Blade Runner 
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