Kazak_Hstan posted:

It will be preventative pardons for the actual Bundy's followed by full promotion to Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS, because that would be the most depressing.

Kazak_Hstan posted:

I don't think his lawyer is a feral cow, so I doubt this.


Partially this is the result of proprietary jurisdiction, which limits the full scope of title 18 substantive criminal charges leaving the conspiracy charges (moreso in Oregon), but it's pretty impossible to ignore things like the guy who was arrested in the malheur truck in town being acquitted of vehicle theft, the acquittals on the weapons possession charges in Oregon, and Eric Parker not being convicted of pointing guns at law enforcement when he was photographed doing it. There was nothing confusing about those charges, regardless of whether the jury was capable of comprehending the conspiracy charge.

But, for instance, if the governor of Oregon were actually as disappointed in the outcome as she said, her state government had full power to prosecute them for burglary, theft, vandalism, all the easy to understand state charges.

Alan Smithee posted:

I think if there's one silver lining it's that trump may not care since he never met them personally. Face time is really important to him

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/912772438685097984

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/912772438685097984

Jose posted:

the american justice system being a complete shitshow isn't really a reason to do away with jury trials

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/912772438685097984

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/912772438685097984

quote:

Mr. Willis claimed not to be a person, but some sort of “agricultural product” and therefore not subject to the laws of North Carolina or the United States. He also told Judge Heath that his name was not Jerry Willis, but Willis Jerry.

With his motion denied, a jury was selected and empaneled that day.

 The next morning, Mr. Willis fled and the trial continued in his absence, pursuant to North Carolina law. He was convicted, but not sentenced pending his capture.

Early Monday morning, Sgt. Jeremy Miller of the Morehead City Police Department obtained information on Mr. Willis and surveilled a house near his residence.

He observed three female subjects packing up and leaving in the night and upon a traffic stop, discovered Mr. Willis lying in the backseat disguised in a female wig.

He was subsequently brought before Judge Alford and sentenced.

Main Paineframe posted:

quote:

Tomorrow at 10am Cliven Bundy will ask a federal court to allow him to represent himself as his current lawyer won't make the legal case as directed by the client. It appears as if the lawyer is more afraid of the court than honoring his commitment to his client.

The court has created an artifical timeline and seems determined to stick with it and possibly force Cliven to stick with his current lawyer.

Casimir Radon posted:

"Your honor, let me tell you more thing I know about the negro!"

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/egavactip/status/912772438685097984

Agean90 posted:

tfw you corncob yourself to try an get outta jail

Discendo Vox posted:

Funny you should say that.

Cliven Bundy’s Lawyer Compares His Armed Resistance to Selma Marchers

The specific filing is here.

Kazak_Hstan posted:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/10/mass_shooting_in_las_vegas_wil.html

lol

Kazak_Hstan posted:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/10/mass_shooting_in_las_vegas_wil.html

lol

Taintrunner posted:

Move the trial to Las Vegas and only pick people who survived being shot at to sit on the jury

Elephant Ambush posted:

WTF is NSDC?

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

quote:

FRCP 43(c)(1)(A) that the judge is trying to use is not true.

quote:

Meanwhile, Pete Santilli, who has argued that he was a journalist covering the confrontation between the Bundy family and law enforcement, has agreed to plead guilty to felony conspiracy, his lawyer Chris Rasmussen told U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro on Tuesday.

As part of the deal, which is expected to be finalized this week, Santilli, who has been jailed for nearly two years, could be released as early in a few days.

“One of the reasons he took the deal is because of the events that happened at Mandalay Bay,” Rasmussen said. “The shooting made him realize that this is a difficult case in trying to defend Second Amendment rights, and after the shooting it’s going be onerous, or very difficult. People aren’t going to be in the mood to hear about gunmen. … He knows that this isn’t a time to be talking about the Second Amendment. It’s kind of offensive.”

After the deal was announced, Deb Jordan, Santilli’s Cincinnati-based business partner and co-host on his YouTube show who has closely followed court proceedings, said the duo planned to return to the internet broadcast, but would not cover what’s been dubbed the Bundy trial.

“I don’t think we’ll be covering protests anymore, whether it be a cause on the left or a cause on the right,” she said.

Although the negotiation calls for Santilli’s freedom, along with three years of supervision, Navarro could still decide to send him to prison.

A possible plea deal for two other defendants — Eric Parker and Scott Drexler — also was referenced in court Tuesday.

Attorney Todd Leventhal, who represents Drexler, said he was negotiating with the government and was hammering out the details as of Tuesday afternoon. Parker’s attorney, Jess Marchese, declined comment.
Prosecutors declined to discuss the negotiations.

Navarro scheduled a hearing for Friday to determine whether the trial should be delayed.

Kazak_Hstan posted:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/10/mass_shooting_in_las_vegas_wil.html

lol

Kazak_Hstan posted:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bundy-blm/after-las-vegas-shooting-bunkerville-defendant-wants-trial-postponed/