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Deino
Dec 14, 2010

I painted some deer this weekend!


Link for way too big

A friend said that he doesn't like the all-white eyes but I thought it gave them a good possessed-ish look which is kind of what I'm going for.

Here's one of the riders:



I was thinking of painting his skin a pale, ghostly blue to go along with the theme, I just hope it goes well with the brown steeds and the gold/bronze metallics I'm doing on the rest of the model.

Thoughts?

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Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe

Deino posted:

I painted some deer this weekend!


Link for way too big

A friend said that he doesn't like the all-white eyes but I thought it gave them a good possessed-ish look which is kind of what I'm going for.

Here's one of the riders:



I was thinking of painting his skin a pale, ghostly blue to go along with the theme, I just hope it goes well with the brown steeds and the gold/bronze metallics I'm doing on the rest of the model.

Thoughts?

I'm liking it so far, the color scheme on the deer as is is nice and bold. (What models are these again?)

e.: Ooo, maybe add a light blue OSL glow around the eyes to indicate "possession?" That would also tie them to the light blue skin on the riders.

Deino
Dec 14, 2010

They're GW Wild Riders / Sisters of the Thorn. I replaced the heads with some from Mierce Miniatures, as I want a more brutal tribal feel to my Sylvan Elves. Good call on the blue OSL as well, that'll be perfect to go along with the blue skin. Thanks!

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:
I've been painting for a few years now. I feel like I've gotten decent. I can blend fairly well if I put my time in. However, I'm still utterly incapable of painting thin straight lines. Everytime I try it's a complete mess. Is there some secret trick to this? Are people really doing stuff like this with a regular brush? Is there some easier way to do this? Like maybe with some sort of acrilic pencil?

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Mugaaz posted:

I've been painting for a few years now. I feel like I've gotten decent. I can blend fairly well if I put my time in. However, I'm still utterly incapable of painting thin straight lines. Everytime I try it's a complete mess. Is there some secret trick to this? Are people really doing stuff like this with a regular brush? Is there some easier way to do this? Like maybe with some sort of acrilic pencil?

Do it fast, keep the bristles under constant pressure as you move the brush so they're slightly bent. Brace both wrists together.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

TTerrible posted:

Do it fast, keep the bristles under constant pressure as you move the brush so they're slightly bent. Brace both wrists together.
And mumble prayers to saint Duncan whilst doing it.


In any case, I feel it's easier to go back and neaten up a fudged highlight or other assorted line than it is getting it perfect to begin with.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
Yeah, the first key is fast. The slower you go, the more wobble there'll be in your line.

The second key is to accept that your line won't be perfect, and you can touch it up/sharpen it by using the other base color.

Duct Tape
Sep 30, 2004

Huh?
Anyone have any recommendations for miniatures for Fragged Empire? It's a sci-fi RPG and, in addition to these species, there are also a variety of drones and machinery.


Other than the official minis (which are $25 each), Infinity looked to be the closest match. I'm wondering if someone out there makes a high-quality sci-fi mini that's a little bit cheaper.

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:
I'll try the speed thing. Are you sure there isn't some sort of pencil that can be used to create perfectly uniform width lines?

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
Longer bristles will also help you paint in a straight line. The flexing of the bristles will counteract slight movements/shaking of your hands.

This is why liner brushes have like 3 inch bristles on them.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Mugaaz posted:

I'll try the speed thing. Are you sure there isn't some sort of pencil that can be used to create perfectly uniform width lines?

You could mask off the area with artists tape and get a perfect line, but its probably more trouble than its worth. You can also use a micron pen if you think it's more accurate or easier to handle than a brush.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Duct Tape posted:

Anyone have any recommendations for miniatures for Fragged Empire? It's a sci-fi RPG and, in addition to these species, there are also a variety of drones and machinery.


Other than the official minis (which are $25 each), Infinity looked to be the closest match. I'm wondering if someone out there makes a high-quality sci-fi mini that's a little bit cheaper.

What kind of style are they in? Star Saga is coming out in October barring any delays (which will probably happen), it's by Mantic Games who tend to err towards 90's stylized characterful minis rather than the modern realistic ones, though. It's got a pretty hefty number of minis so you might find something that fits.





I can relate to Infinity being pricy, especially if you're going to be using them for a non-infinity project. I wont give any links for obvious reasons, but Aliexpress haa miniatures vendors that often get a few Infinity folk. Just stick with people with good ratings.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Duct Tape posted:

Anyone have any recommendations for miniatures for Fragged Empire? It's a sci-fi RPG and, in addition to these species, there are also a variety of drones and machinery.


Other than the official minis (which are $25 each), Infinity looked to be the closest match. I'm wondering if someone out there makes a high-quality sci-fi mini that's a little bit cheaper.

I'm using infinity minis. If you can find a cheap copy of Sedition Wars that could work for minis and tiles. Mantic games sci-fi minis can work too and are pretty cheap for wargaming minis. There are a few Reaper sci-fi figs that could work too but their scales aren't always very consistent if that matters for you.

Shadin
Jun 28, 2009

That owns. How has Mantic's sculpts progressed? They used to advertise something like that but in real life it looked more like this:

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer

Wow, that looks great. It's really by Mantic? I haven't much liked their model range historically.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Shadin posted:

That owns. How has Mantic's sculpts progressed? They used to advertise something like that but in real life it looked more like this:



I'l let you know when I get mine :v:, bought in at 100 zorkmids because I figure it will be a nice goal to work towards, painting quality-wise.

Their last game (I think) was The Walking Dead, which looks pretty solid:



Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I always get so paranoid about overpriming my minis that I don't get around to it

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Duct Tape posted:

Anyone have any recommendations for miniatures for Fragged Empire? It's a sci-fi RPG and, in addition to these species, there are also a variety of drones and machinery.


Other than the official minis (which are $25 each), Infinity looked to be the closest match. I'm wondering if someone out there makes a high-quality sci-fi mini that's a little bit cheaper.

These might work for a some of the humans/aliens

http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/thecommguild/entry/the-broken-plastic-ragtag-civilian

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Phi230 posted:

I always get so paranoid about overpriming my minis that I don't get around to it

I'm bad about this, but if you stick them in simple green immediately after overpriming it will come off easily and completely in like 30 minutes.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Aren't maelstroms edge the Dakka Dakka guys? Nifty!

Can all 6 guys get built such that none of them are visibly mutated?

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Oct 5, 2017

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
My primer is so drat glossy I can't tell if I overprimed or its just too shiny

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy


Do these look overprimed

Phi230 fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Oct 5, 2017

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Maybe this isn't as much the case for miniatures as for model kits, but you generally dont want to prime on-sprue, since it will leave unprimed marks and flash-cleared areas when removed & cleaned up that will end up being brighter/darker than the rest of the mini. It's pretty cheap to get some gardening/green foam, alligator clips, and skewer sticks, and will give you better control over what gets how much primer.

As for overpriming they don't look bad. If you're spray priming take note of recessed details, and try to avoid making those areas too 'wet' as you prime; you still want full coverage, but if the recessed area is looking softer you may want to either stop covering that area or even re-do it if you think its bad enough. That having been said, spray primers use cool lacquer, which means that the paint will 'tighten' up as it dries and vents solvent-based gasses.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
So I've begun painting and messed up my layer highlights twice. Any good resources?

OptimusWang
Jul 9, 2007

Do you mean edge highlighting or dry brushing? If you're talking about edge highlighting, just use colored pencils. If you screw up, you can just wipe it away with your finger. Once you're happy with them, do a quick coat of dullcoat and continue painting.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

OptimusWang posted:

Do you mean edge highlighting or dry brushing? If you're talking about edge highlighting, just use colored pencils. If you screw up, you can just wipe it away with your finger. Once you're happy with them, do a quick coat of dullcoat and continue painting.

No like I wash, then re-applying the base color


Here:



Using a black wash on Blue Grey

Something looks off.

I've only painted the pants

Phi230 fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Oct 5, 2017

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
So this primer is a gloss primer. I'm gonna try to restart completely with a flat primer. What's the best technique to strip primer?

Irate Tree
Mar 12, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
To all AusGoons;

I'm planning on flogging my citadel paints. They'll probably go up on eBay in the next fortnight but if anyone's interested, send me a PM.
There are, like, 80 of the things.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010



I have no idea where to go next with this model. But I'm happy so far.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Phi230 posted:

So this primer is a gloss primer. I'm gonna try to restart completely with a flat primer. What's the best technique to strip primer?

Depends on the primer and the material of the miniature but soaking in Simple Green for 24 hours or so and then scrubbing with a toothbrush usually does it for me.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Phi230 posted:

So this primer is a gloss primer. I'm gonna try to restart completely with a flat primer. What's the best technique to strip primer?

I use Super Clean, and have personally found it works better than Simple Green. Also, the quicker you get your models into the soup, the easier it will be to get the primer off.

FromTheShire
Feb 19, 2005

Panzers on Russian soil, Thunder in the east.
One million men at war,
The Soviet wrath unleashed
Does anyone have experience with using GW's orange wash? I'm doing some Cult of the Rusted Claw GSC, going for a very bright, construction worker look, so I started with Troll Slayer rather than Jokaero which looked pretty good on my Magus, but after washing him with Agrax Earthshade like Duncan had done in his videos, I feel like it doesn't look right in the creases and made brightening it back up more work than need be. I feel like the logical answer is to use an orange wash instead, but figured it was worth asking first.

FromTheShire fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 5, 2017

Dr. Gargunza
May 19, 2011

He damned me for a eunuch,
and my mother for a whore.



Fun Shoe
You might be able to find Wargames Factory skeletons at your FLGS. They tend to be small and fiddly, but they're the literal-bare-bones style seen in Ray Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts. They would probably work out the best for this application. I'm not sure on availability these days, though.

Comedy/cheapass option: Reaper Bones minis. On the plus side, they're cheap as gently caress and usually come in packs of 3. Downside, they're usually monopose, with weapons integrated into their structure, and the mold lines are notoriously hard to remove.

e.: Oh, that's why I couldn't quote your post about skeletons, you changed the original text.

e2: or i just posted in the wrong thread, goddammit

Dr. Gargunza fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 5, 2017

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



richyp posted:

The Militia from the City of Pastelheim-on-Purpleteal are a modern and equal opportunities organisation, first they hired a female Stormcast that for some reason looked exactly the same as the rest of them (it later transpired that 50% of them were already and noone knew as they wore helmets) and now they're hiring vertically challenged folk from the sky.



Not sure whether it was a good idea to try and keep the colour scheme from the Stormcasts and apply it to the Squat Sky Dwarf Kharadron Overlords. Ideally the purple needs to be where the gold is, and vice versa, but that would make the cloth gold and the metal bits purple, so unless anyone has any ideas before I paint the other 4 of them it'll have to do I guess. The other option of purple straps and blue cloth might work but its puts the blue next to the gold then rather than the purple like on the Stormcasts.

I'm not sure if you went over it already or not, but how do you paint that wonderfully rich purple?

FromTheShire
Feb 19, 2005

Panzers on Russian soil, Thunder in the east.
One million men at war,
The Soviet wrath unleashed

Dr. Gargunza posted:

You might be able to find Wargames Factory skeletons at your FLGS. They tend to be small and fiddly, but they're the literal-bare-bones style seen in Ray Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts. They would probably work out the best for this application. I'm not sure on availability these days, though.

Comedy/cheapass option: Reaper Bones minis. On the plus side, they're cheap as gently caress and usually come in packs of 3. Downside, they're usually monopose, with weapons integrated into their structure, and the mold lines are notoriously hard to remove.

e.: Oh, that's why I couldn't quote your post about skeletons, you changed the original text.

e2: or i just posted in the wrong thread, goddammit

Nope, you were right, I posted in the wrong thread first, edited to be what I meant to ask in this thread, and then posted that question where it belonged haha, sorry for the confusion.

I'm taking a trip to my LGS tomorrow so I will keep an eye open, thanks!

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

FromTheShire posted:

Does anyone have experience with using GW's orange wash? I'm doing some Cult of the Rusted Claw GSC, going for a very bright, construction worker look, so I started with Troll Slayer rather than Jokaero which looked pretty good on my Magus, but after washing him with Agrax Earthshade like Duncan had done in his videos, I feel like it doesn't look right in the creases and made brightening it back up more work than need be. I feel like the logical answer is to use an orange wash instead, but figured it was worth asking first.

Yep, I use it a lot. Its a weirdly bright but also dark wash, if that makes sense. Its like if you took their Sepia and turned the color knob up on it. I use it on red haired dwarfs and stuff all the time. You might try Sepia or Fleshshade, alternately.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Before I actually restart I just need some technique advice:




Only the pants are painted on this model. In the form of basecoat + black wash + reapply basecoat.

1. Did I apply the wash too unevenly/too thick?

2. Did I over-apply the basecoat over the wash?

3. Is the re-applied basecoat, over the wash, supposed to be thinner than normal?

4. Should I be lightening the basecoat color when I reapply it over the wash?

Is the gloss primer (which is the reason why I'm restarting) a factor in why it does not look too good?

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
So, it's hard to t ell much from that picture, ,but in general when I am doing fast army painting, I prefer to basecoat, highlight, and then highlight TOO MUCH, and then wash. You don't need to rebasecoat avfter that, and just a small highlight over the wash will often look really good.

Keep in mind though, that there's very little "supposed to" in painting. Honestly, if you are thinning your paint to not get brushstrokes, anything beyond that is just do what looks good. Experiment a little.

Super 3
Dec 31, 2007

Sometimes the powers you get are shit.

Phi230 posted:

So this primer is a gloss primer. I'm gonna try to restart completely with a flat primer. What's the best technique to strip primer?

Your original pick was pretty blurry so I couldn't tell if the primer looked off. Did you wash them before priming? As mentioned a soak in some diluted green and scrub with a toothbrush will get you back to square one. Are you spray priming or brush priming? You'd probably have to try pretty hard to over prime, if your paint is running on off the model or pooling that'san indicator. Usually a few passes with a rattle can from about a foot and some change away does the trick.


Also you might want to take a knife to the mold lines like on his hat etc...

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

JoshTheStampede posted:

So, it's hard to t ell much from that picture, ,but in general when I am doing fast army painting, I prefer to basecoat, highlight, and then highlight TOO MUCH, and then wash. You don't need to rebasecoat avfter that, and just a small highlight over the wash will often look really good.

Keep in mind though, that there's very little "supposed to" in painting. Honestly, if you are thinning your paint to not get brushstrokes, anything beyond that is just do what looks good. Experiment a little.

Well mostly I'm concerned with why the wash settled in such a way as to make very very large dark spots, so that I didn't have much free room to actually highlight.

I guess I'm asking, that when I'm re-applying the basecoat where do I actually highlight? Especially when there aren't a lot of details and it's mostly flat like the above model's pants.

Phi230 fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 5, 2017

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